[Jovi]

If anyone has the chance to beat floyd, other than the pac argument, Sergio is definitely the next contender hands down if no the only contender. The last few fights he has been fighting haven't been against bad boxers either, I respect his game, and he has been KOing them and hurting them. And he is taller and also has a longer reach (which is most of the time floyd's advantage). he isnt slow, he isnt weak, he isnt soft, he isnt short. And another thing is he can go 12 rounds, great athlete.

for floyd to beat sergio he would have to fight like he did against Corales, in and out boxing, but idk if he can do it anymore, he seems more flat footed ready to box. still has the best head movement and defense for blocking punches, but his legs aint moving as much.

Other than him having no audience, Sergio martinez is the real deal, not alot of people want to fight him, i think that's why you see him fighting random no names. Hes beating everyone, other than i think Andre ward (might be too big), just because he is a bigger a version of mayweather and maybe able to take the punishment that would come along with fighting martinez.

Too good of a fight, i wouldnt even know how it would go, it could go either way, but i wouldnt be surprised if martinez did win.

[Chameleon]

Again, who DOESN'T fight for bigger paydays? Hell, most of these guys that are out here fighting, are fighting according to the direction that they're promoter is leading is them. Promoters "preserve" their fighters as well...ya know?...making them fight low-risk fights and try to get the lion's share of the purse. Low risk, high reward?

Im wondering why is it a problem for Floyd to do the same? Honestly, if he still had a promoter, then the same thing would be going on. I cant even say that he doesn't necessarily fight the best, but on another note, I felt that Cotto was going to be an easy fight for him, though I gave Cotto a puncher's chance. We saw him in what people would NOW rate as the best fight of his career (as of late). Nobody was saying that before the first bell rang.

Sergio is two weight classes above Floyd and has consistently fought there for 2 years now. The funniest part about Sergio is, his ass cant even decide whether or not, he's a MW or a Jr. MW. When a Kirkland fight was presented to him, he said that Kirkland had to come up to 160, but when a Mayweather fight is brought up...he begs for it and says that he can make 154 comfortably. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Funny aint it?

Why would he make Kirkland move up in weight, but not Floyd? He views Kirkland as a risk, but he (Sergio) is willing to risk his health to fight for what? Yep you got it...a big payday. Again, African Americans dont dominate the market as they once did, so it's best to strike while the iron's hot...i.e. Mayweather picking Ortiz after a big victory over an undefeated Berto.

Guys are complaining about Floyd "cherry picking" and not fighting the best, but again, that $32M guaranteed purse speaks volumes that people are trying to overlook. I would say that some people need to take notes...

Floyd has managed to "preserve" his body by calculating the risk before and during his fights, and most of all...he's managed to preserve brain cells. Im sure he thought Cotto would be an easy fight (though he doesn't underestimate her opponents), but we saw it a bit differently. So cherry picking doesn't always mean a "safe fight" when the bell rings, because one punch can change that...

Glad to read an honest reply... is Sergio looking for a Payday, pretty much seems that way. Is floyd cherry picking? yes, but so does most champions... When ur the king of an country, do you cherry pick the queen? of Course. Do you demand the best? yes. So yea, Sergio did the same thing with kirkland, that floyd did with marquez.., yeah, Cotto impressed me in his fight with Floyd... The same as marquez impressed people with his performance against Pacman. Yeah, cherry picking doesn't always work in ppl's favor, Tsyon douglas. But yeah, so in the end, why expect the best to fight the best, if both dont have a fan base... sad truth, we only can look forward to seeing the best, if we can pay out the rear for it. Some people don't mind, but hey, i guess reality is the world is driven by the dollar. And in boxing its no different-low risk, high reward, which is why bradley said no to khan for the same purse in casamoyor... now he fights pacman.

guess its why we didnt see many fights... but ur point is well noted, and i didn't deny the facts, "Its Business First" all about ones self and the money, legacy dont pay bills.

[Cshel86]

If anyone has the chance to beat floyd, other than the pac argument, Sergio is definitely the next contender hands down if no the only contender. The last few fights he has been fighting haven't been against bad boxers either, I respect his game, and he has been KOing them and hurting them. And he is taller and also has a longer reach (which is most of the time floyd's advantage). he isnt slow, he isnt weak, he isnt soft, he isnt short. And another thing is he can go 12 rounds, great athlete.

for floyd to beat sergio he would have to fight like he did against Corales, in and out boxing, but idk if he can do it anymore, he seems more flat footed ready to box. still has the best head movement and defense for blocking punches, but his legs aint moving as much.

Other than him having no audience, Sergio martinez is the real deal, not alot of people want to fight him, i think that's why you see him fighting random no names. Hes beating everyone, other than i think Andre ward (might be too big), just because he is a bigger a version of mayweather and maybe able to take the punishment that would come along with fighting martinez.

Too good of a fight, i wouldnt even know how it would go, it could go either way, but i wouldnt be surprised if martinez did win.

Sergio's 5'10 (about 2 inches taller than Floyd) and he DOESN'T have an arm length advantage over Floyd. His arm length is only 24 inches, not 26 inches like Floyd's. He rehydrates to about 165 lbs, but wait, let me guess...guys are going to start saying that Ortiz weighed 164 lbs when he fought Floyd. Ortiz is a big WW, but will get murdered at 154, especially against guys like Canelo.

Ortiz is a big WW, and Sergio is a big 154 lber that fights at MW...BIG difference. Sergio has patches in the fight when he gets tired, and he DOESN'T make adjustments in the later rounds of the fight. It's usually due to his opponent getting tired, nothing special.

Guys are REALLY going out of their way to pump Sergio up, just as the media has done with some of these guys in the past...just so that they can build up a "big fight". Floyd is a WW and has NO BUSINESS at 154, let alone, trying to fight at a catchweight between 154-160. Sergio is a MW and has been for 2 years...no way this fight happens.

[Cshel86]

Glad to read an honest reply... is Sergio looking for a Payday, pretty much seems that way. Is floyd cherry picking? yes, but so does most champions... When ur the king of an country, do you cherry pick the queen? of Course. Do you demand the best? yes. So yea, Sergio did the same thing with kirkland, that floyd did with marquez.., yeah, Cotto impressed me in his fight with Floyd... The same as marquez impressed people with his performance against Pacman. Yeah, cherry picking doesn't always work in ppl's favor, Tsyon douglas. But yeah, so in the end, why expect the best to fight the best, if both dont have a fan base... sad truth, we only can look forward to seeing the best, if we can pay out the rear for it. Some people don't mind, but hey, i guess reality is the world is driven by the dollar. And in boxing its no different-low risk, high reward, which is why bradley said no to khan for the same purse in casamoyor... now he fights pacman.

guess its why we didnt see many fights... but ur point is well noted, and i didn't deny the facts, "Its Business First" all about ones self and the money, legacy dont pay bills.

You're right about being the top guy and picking the best. Besides, wouldn't take advantage of that perk? As far as Im concerned, EVERYBODY not only fights to make money, but they fight for the right sit on that throne, make demands, and be sure that those big paydays are consistent.

I cant even say that Tyson cherry picked Douglas, because if I remember correctly, the winner of that fight was supposed to fight Evander. I know one thing...Tyson thought it was going to be an easy fight.

That "purse" that Bradley earned in the Casamayor fight, was nothing more than his signing bonus from Top Rank in addition to his purse...which was less than what he made against Devon and less than what Khan offered. He came out on top with this upcoming Manny fight, but that shit was planned waaaay before he even signed.

[sduck]

This fight should go down at 154. No catch-weight. Martinez is not too big, the guy has been barely weighing in the 160s in his last few fights.

And lol, where do these trolls come from. Always trying to say people are nuthugging Floyd. Maybe some people understand he's the best in the sport, as of right now? And beating him requires more than just hope and power. It's not impossible but its very unlikely when you got this guy who's very physically gifted and has a super high boxing IQ. You're looking at Roy Jones, Bernard Hopkins, and James Toney in one fighter.

Why I think Sergio is an easy fight for Floyd. Only tough part about Sergio is his size, Floyd won't just be able to blow through the guy because Sergio is the bigger guy. And people act like Floyd hasn't fought people who are bigger than him before. Sergio is a southpaw, there's this thing that flops around that Floyd is bad against southpaws, which isn't true. Floyd fights southpaws a specific way, which takes a bit more time to shut them down compared to an orthodox fighter. Here's an example of how Floyd fights southpaws http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtH9G_Fo8j4
Now Sergio is a southpaw, he's a typical southpaw, jab jab jab straight left, repeat. He'll try to throw a left uppercut if you get close to him, something like Pacquiao or Judah would do. Sergio is a head hunter, Floyd doesn't have to worry about other plans, because Sergio has no other plans. Sergio is a one-dimensional fighter, who doesn't know how to make adjustments, he tries to increase his rate of what hes already doing, and it hopefully works out for him, like his last two fights. Where it's not that exactly he's diminishing in performance, his last couple of performances opened up obvious flaws with this guy. Sergio is not a pressure fighter, he's a in and out fighter, likes to fight with his hands down (I don't know why he does this, because hes not any good at dodging punches), when you style him up against Floyd, he's going to try to box with Floyd, and will lose every round, because Sergio likes to fight backwards, is not quick enough on his feet to throw Floyd off his game, Floyd will be landing at will, and Sergio just lacks these adjustments (for some reason some people here says he does, but I don't see them). Sergio has power and okay speed (I think Floyd struggles most against pressure and speed, because then you're able to hit him more often) he will hit Floyd, everyone does, but I don't see him landing anything that will give him the knockout (he'll mostly land a jab). Just because he can knock these other guys out, doesn't mean he will knock out Floyd Mayweather. When you're fighting Floyd Mayweather, you are not fighting any other of these guys you have fought your entire career. You're a fighting a different fight, because this guy changes what you're doing in the fight. Floyd's boxing style is perfect to give Sergio's style problems, plus Floyd is way too technical for Sergio, which sums it up to me why it would be an easy round by round fight.

In additional note, I was actually kind of shocked on how well he fought Cotto. Cotto did exactly what I thought he should do, but Floyd still out-fought him. Some people try to discredit Floyd's performance, but that kind of performance right there, especially against a solid guy like Cotto, at that weight, helps me lack any doubt.

This post has been edited by sduck: May 15 2012, 10:53 AM

[Cshel86]

This fight should go down at 154. No catch-weight. Martinez is not too big, the guy has been barely weighing in the 160s in his last few fights.

C'mon man...Sergio is too big, he's really a big dude. He may weigh-in under 160 (like he weighed 157.5 against Macklin), but he rehydrates to around 165 or maybe even close to 170 since his unofficial weight wasn't announced for the Macklin fight.

Floyd has NO BUSINESS at 154, unless it's "business" which translates to MONEY. The only two times that he went to 154 and didn't try to hit the weight, was against Oscar (which was his highest payday at the time, and a crossover fight), then Cotto (which earned him the highest guaranteed purse in the sport of boxing).

I dont see how Sergio brings ANY of this to the table. If anything, Canelo is worth another trip to 154, but for obvious reasons...MONEY. Sergio is a begging MW with no fan base, and has never had a big payday. He cant even land one in a division that he's been in for 2 years now. The fact that Pacquiao wont even fight the dude when he's dead at 150 lbs should be very telling...

[sduck]

I agree its a pointless fight business wise.... And that's what matters most when you're at this height in your career.

[checkleft]

Dont fool yourself man Serg has been on a great run no question but hes a tweener. Serg was never dominate at 154lbs before so what makes you think he can drop down now and beat the best fighter onthe planet? Dont forget Serg is the same guy that struggled against Kermit Cintron. Serg isnt a pressure fighter and he doesnt throw any body punches. We can actually sit here and say Floyd doesnt have to worry about getting out worked.

Sergs has been fighting bigger guys that chase him around and gas out late in fights. Floyd will be able to cut off the ring and he definetly will not gas out late. Sergs best attack is to foot stomp and land the straight left.

Also what entitles Serg to 20% in a fight with Floyd? Hes been on a great run as of late but he cant draw flies to shit. His last fight sold like what? 3500 tickets and did like 660,000 at the gate? Yawn!!! And thats in NYC and those were all pissed off Irish drunks. Is Serg gonna bring 10,000 Argentians to Vegas? Fuck no. If your gonna be mad be mad at HBO for not marketing this guy as the next Floyd stopper. At least then "Mayweather Hater Nation" will move off Pacquiao and on to Serg. I could live with that.

Haha are you serious? Did you even watch the Cintron fight? He literally knocked the guy out, the fight was over, they basically gave Cintron a do over! Not only that they robbed Martinez on the cards too! Lmfao

[aTYpicalTYrant]

C'mon man...Sergio is too big, he's really a big dude. He may weigh-in under 160 (like he weighed 157.5 against Macklin), but he rehydrates to around 165 or maybe even close to 170 since his unofficial weight wasn't announced for the Macklin fight.

Floyd has NO BUSINESS at 154, unless it's "business" which translates to MONEY. The only two times that he went to 154 and didn't try to hit the weight, was against Oscar (which was his highest payday at the time, and a crossover fight), then Cotto (which earned him the highest guaranteed purse in the sport of boxing).

I dont see how Sergio brings ANY of this to the table. If anything, Canelo is worth another trip to 154, but for obvious reasons...MONEY. Sergio is a begging MW with no fan base, and has never had a big payday. He cant even land one in a division that he's been in for 2 years now. The fact that Pacquiao wont even fight the dude when he's dead at 150 lbs should be very telling...

+1 CSHEL....... MONEY TALKS

[Cshel86]

they basically gave Cintron a do over!

LMAO!

How many times has the ref, officials, and everyone else (aside from himself) helped Cintron? Doesn't dumb shit ALWAYS happen in his fights? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)