May 18 2012, 03:56 PM
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Welterweight Group: Members Posts: 1,778 Joined: 30-July 03 From: S.Florida Member No.: 128 |
Former welterweight titleholder Andre Berto has tested positive for a banned substance, putting his scheduled June 23 rematch with fellow former titlist Victor Ortiz in jeopardy.
Berto tested positive for the steroid norandrosterone, a source with direct knowledge of the test results told ESPN.com on Friday. Promoter Lou DiBella told ESPN.com he was unsure of what Berto tested positive for but confirmed the result. "I know he tested positive. I learned it in the last half-hour," DiBella said. "I have nothing else to say. I don't know all of the details, so I have nothing else to say." Ortiz and Berto had agreed to use the Las Vegas-based Voluntary Anti-Doping Association for random blood and urine testing in the lead up to their fight at the Staples Center in Los Angeles. Showtime had made the bout the centerpiece of its boxing schedule for the first half of the year. Showtime is proceeding as though the fight will be canceled. A network source told ESPN.com that Showtime is already discussing with Golden Boy Promotions about possible replacement opponents to face Ortiz. Berto submitted to a random urine test May 2, according to the source. The "A" test came back positive last week. The "B" sample also came back positive Friday, triggering VADA to alert the California State Athletic Commission, DiBella and Golden Boy's Richard Schaefer, Ortiz's promoter. In April 2011, Ortiz outslugged Berto to win a welterweight title in one of the year's most exciting fights. The rematch was supposed to take place Feb. 11 in Las Vegas, but Berto suffered a biceps injury, forcing the postponement to June 23. This is the second high-profile positive drug test in the past two weeks. Junior welterweight titlist Lamont Peterson tested positive for synthetic testosterone following a March 19 random test in the lead up to his rematch with Amir Khan. They were scheduled to meet Saturday night in Las Vegas, but the fight was canceled last week. ESPN - BOXING Failed both samples...commission wasn't informed of any doctor issued meds (same as peterson) I'm sure. Floyd looking more and more like a winner in his efforts to force testing across the board. ..and berto tried to say Ortiz was dirty (which I'm sure he did cycle) so he goes and tries to run a cycle..timed it wrong and got caught. Morons. |
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May 18 2012, 05:25 PM
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Super Bantamweight Group: Members Posts: 419 Joined: 5-March 05 From: LA, CA by way of Panama Member No.: 1,846 |
could be something he took that he thought was safe. Lots of supplements are tainted with metabolites of deca.
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May 18 2012, 05:52 PM
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could be something he took that he thought was safe. Lots of supplements are tainted with metabolites of deca. there are two samples A and B taken....you fail A..you are informed (now is your time to turn over your supplements list, MEDS...etc)....fail B and still have no list of things you have taken....not a good look. These guys are given a chance to spill the beans. Roy tested positive, admitted he took over the counter (Ripped Fuel at the time..I took the same shit) and passed other test afterwards. It's really that simple. Just admit what you took if it's over the counter. These guys know they are already skating on a thin line. Why risk anything inside your body outside of protein shakes and vitamins is beyond me. This post has been edited by HaydelHammer: May 18 2012, 05:52 PM |
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May 18 2012, 07:35 PM
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Amateur Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 16-April 12 Member No.: 13,619 |
there are two samples A and B taken....you fail A..you are informed (now is your time to turn over your supplements list, MEDS...etc)....fail B and still have no list of things you have taken....not a good look. These guys are given a chance to spill the beans. That's NOT how it works. You don't get a chance to explain after the A sample tests positive. |
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May 19 2012, 10:46 AM
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Welterweight Group: Members Posts: 1,778 Joined: 30-July 03 From: S.Florida Member No.: 128 |
That's NOT how it works. You don't get a chance to explain after the A sample tests positive. How does it work? enlighten me please. During the Peterson deal HE told everyone after the A fail everything was all good(IE...I"m clean took nothing), so they were confident about the B test. The commission said AFTER the B failure that Peterson "all of a sudden" remembered of test he got from a doctor. Commission made it clear about how it was funny how the results of Test A didn't jog his memory but B results did. Translation....A failed, what are you taking or have taken? Will B fail..yep, but at least we KNOW and have something to go on. Roy did this, failed tests vs richard hall...he provided supp list and nobody even know about it until later. IE....things can be kept under wraps, told to other camp, purses adjusted...etc and you will never even know about it. When you don't say anything zero tolerance should be applied. |
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HaydelHammer Andre Berto tests positive. Failed both samples May 18 2012, 03:56 PM
BoxingStill#1 This is honestly a crying shame May 18 2012, 04:40 PM
thefloatingmonkey Boxing has really been sucking this year. May 18 2012, 04:52 PM
mitukczuk Oh man...not Berto, take Ortiz...not Berto...
Flo... May 18 2012, 04:54 PM
Cheesey1 QUOTE (mitukczuk @ May 18 2012, 05:54 PM)... May 18 2012, 06:11 PM
Franchize I always kinda thought both guys could be roiding.... May 18 2012, 05:05 PM
Cshel86 Droppin' like flies, I tell ya... May 18 2012, 05:05 PM
bnoles4life Here's the dreaded question: Who's next? May 18 2012, 05:18 PM
Cshel86 QUOTE (bnoles4life @ May 18 2012, 06:18 P... May 18 2012, 06:05 PM
bnoles4life QUOTE (Cshel86 @ May 18 2012, 06:05 PM) N... May 19 2012, 12:46 PM
Cheesey1 QUOTE (bnoles4life @ May 19 2012, 01:46 P... May 19 2012, 01:33 PM
bnoles4life QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ May 19 2012, 01:33 PM) ... May 20 2012, 09:49 AM
Cheesey1 QUOTE (bnoles4life @ May 20 2012, 10:49 A... May 20 2012, 10:18 AM
bnoles4life QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ May 20 2012, 10:18 AM) ... May 20 2012, 03:21 PM
BigFightFan Another good fight down the drain. Berto wanted ou... May 18 2012, 06:00 PM
Cheesey1 What a bummer, but I guess that's why these te... May 18 2012, 06:13 PM
Cshel86 Im hoping that whatever he was taking, was prescri... May 18 2012, 06:17 PM
Hotsauce QUOTE (Cshel86 @ May 18 2012, 06:17 PM) I... May 18 2012, 07:09 PM
Jack 1000 It just blows my mind with all the anti-doping rul... May 18 2012, 06:58 PM
Hotsauce 2012 is not a good year for boxing May 18 2012, 07:05 PM
mrchitown QUOTE (Hotsauce @ May 18 2012, 07:05 PM) ... May 18 2012, 10:04 PM
Cheesey1 I like what I just saw on FH from Alexander.....Al... May 18 2012, 07:32 PM
Jhill47 Damn man I was looking forward to this fight. May 18 2012, 08:25 PM
flazi if you are dirty then both a and b are going to co... May 18 2012, 08:26 PM
Cshel86 QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ May 18 2012, 07:58 PM)... May 18 2012, 08:29 PM
Hotsauce QUOTE (Cshel86 @ May 18 2012, 08:29 PM) B... May 18 2012, 09:36 PM
Franchize I have less sympathy for Berto than I do for Peter... May 19 2012, 05:59 AM
Cheesey1 Keep the random tests coming. I completely disagre... May 19 2012, 11:05 AM
mgrover oh for fucks sake. May 19 2012, 05:35 PM
Cshel86 QUOTE (bnoles4life @ May 19 2012, 01:46 P... May 19 2012, 09:07 PM
Cheesey1 QUOTE (Cshel86 @ May 19 2012, 10:07 PM) M... May 20 2012, 12:32 AM
checkleft I agree gbp has so many options right now. You cou... May 20 2012, 01:52 AM
Cheesey1 QUOTE (checkleft @ May 20 2012, 02:52 AM)... May 20 2012, 10:19 AM
Jovi My question is, are these tests the same tests tha... May 20 2012, 02:10 PM
Cshel86 QUOTE (bnoles4life @ May 20 2012, 10:49 A... May 20 2012, 03:50 PM
Cheesey1 QUOTE (Cshel86 @ May 20 2012, 04:50 PM) G... May 20 2012, 04:13 PM

Cshel86 QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ May 20 2012, 05:13 PM) ... May 20 2012, 04:52 PM
bnoles4life QUOTE (Cshel86 @ May 20 2012, 03:50 PM) G... May 21 2012, 04:29 PM
Franchize Has Berto made a public statement yet? Dick May 20 2012, 05:01 PM
Cshel86 QUOTE (Franchize @ May 20 2012, 06:01 PM)... May 20 2012, 07:11 PM
daprofessor haven't kept up with all of this. i always tho... May 20 2012, 07:58 PM
Franchize If guys are getting busted by both samples thru VA... May 20 2012, 08:29 PM
Cshel86 QUOTE (daprofessor @ May 20 2012, 08:58 P... May 20 2012, 09:03 PM
Cheesey1 Strangely enough I don't think that Victor Con... May 20 2012, 09:38 PM
checkleft QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ May 20 2012, 10:19 AM) ... May 21 2012, 01:42 AM
whiteboy its becoming obvious that more boxers use ped... May 21 2012, 06:07 AM
Cshel86 QUOTE (whiteboy @ May 21 2012, 07:07 AM) ... May 21 2012, 09:14 AM
daprofessor QUOTE (Cshel86 @ May 21 2012, 10:14 AM) I... May 21 2012, 12:45 PM

Cshel86 QUOTE (daprofessor @ May 21 2012, 01:45 P... May 21 2012, 02:32 PM

daprofessor QUOTE (Cshel86 @ May 21 2012, 03:32 PM) I... May 21 2012, 02:52 PM

Cheesey1 QUOTE (daprofessor @ May 21 2012, 03:52 P... May 21 2012, 03:14 PM

daprofessor QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ May 21 2012, 04:14 PM) ... May 21 2012, 04:08 PM

Cheesey1 QUOTE (daprofessor @ May 21 2012, 05:08 P... May 21 2012, 08:52 PM

Cshel86 QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ May 21 2012, 09:52 PM) ... May 22 2012, 12:31 PM

daprofessor QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ May 21 2012, 09:52 PM) ... May 22 2012, 02:12 PM

bnoles4life QUOTE (daprofessor @ May 22 2012, 02:12 P... May 22 2012, 04:00 PM

Cheesey1 QUOTE (daprofessor @ May 22 2012, 03:12 P... May 23 2012, 08:45 AM
Cheesey1 QUOTE (Cshel86 @ May 21 2012, 10:14 AM) I... May 21 2012, 03:21 PM
whiteboy Khan vs Ortiz Anyone??? May 21 2012, 06:09 AM
Cheesey1 QUOTE (whiteboy @ May 21 2012, 07:09 AM) ... May 21 2012, 03:05 PM
mgrover meh i dont really see this as an amazing break thr... May 21 2012, 07:01 AM
Franchize QUOTE (mgrover @ May 21 2012, 08:01 AM) m... May 21 2012, 08:41 AM
Hotsauce so berto is now clean? May 21 2012, 03:40 PM
sduck Khan vs Ortiz would be good May 21 2012, 04:03 PM
Cshel86 QUOTE (daprofessor @ May 21 2012, 03:52 P... May 21 2012, 05:15 PM
Hotsauce QUOTE (Cshel86 @ May 21 2012, 05:15 PM) Y... May 21 2012, 07:20 PM
checkleft QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ May 21 2012, 08:52 PM) ... May 22 2012, 01:01 AM
Cheesey1 QUOTE (checkleft @ May 22 2012, 02:01 AM)... May 22 2012, 10:15 AM
Hotsauce QUOTE (checkleft @ May 22 2012, 01:01 AM)... May 22 2012, 01:23 PM
Hotsauce smh @ arum May 22 2012, 12:12 PM
Cheesey1 Good news that Chambers is asking for random testi... May 23 2012, 08:46 AM
bnoles4life QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ May 23 2012, 08:46 AM) ... May 23 2012, 08:59 AM
Cheesey1 QUOTE (bnoles4life @ May 23 2012, 09:59 A... May 23 2012, 11:24 AM
Cshel86 At this point, the thought ANY fighter requesting ... May 23 2012, 09:14 AM
Cheesey1 QUOTE (Cshel86 @ May 23 2012, 10:14 AM) A... May 23 2012, 11:27 AM
Cshel86 QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ May 23 2012, 12:27 PM) ... May 23 2012, 12:07 PM
Cheesey1 QUOTE (Cshel86 @ May 23 2012, 01:07 PM) G... May 23 2012, 01:47 PM
Franchize I hope, for the sake of African American fighters,... May 23 2012, 10:17 AM
Cheesey1 QUOTE (Franchize @ May 23 2012, 11:17 AM)... May 23 2012, 11:31 AM
Franchize I agree! To people with knowledge of the sport... May 23 2012, 12:39 PM
Cheesey1 QUOTE (Franchize @ May 23 2012, 01:39 PM)... May 23 2012, 01:49 PM
daprofessor eddie mustafa brings up a valid point in the artic... May 23 2012, 04:11 PM
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