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mgrover
post Jun 10 2012, 06:56 PM
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With the bullshit of the other night I started making a list of the bullshit thats happened over the last two years in boxing

Hopkins Dawson I & II (the tackle by Dawson, and the score cards in the second fight, I mean wtf should of been a much wider margin)
Mayweather vs Ortiz (bit obvious)
Cloud vs Campillo (Robbery)
Abril vs Rios (Robbery)
MP vs Bradley (Robbery) btw I couldn't give a flying fuck if you don't agree am really not here to argue about this one
MP vs Marquez (Not robbery, but it seems something on a smaller scale, hmm Theft?)
That mug vs Marquez in his tune up for MP(Dive)
The failed drug tests by Berto and Peterson
Molina vs Kirkland(bullshit DQ)
Mares vs Abgeko I

How much more? I mean really how much fucking more before something will change?I don't have the answer personally, but something needs to change. I feel like I've missed something out if anybody wants to add it in

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Franchize
post Jun 11 2012, 12:05 PM
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mgrover you have every right to be angry. I'm passionate about basketball and boxing. As someone who rarely parties and is a homebody now, I'm even more passionate about watching sports. To see corruption unfairly overshadow the effort that these athletes put in day in and day out, is absolutely disheartening. I grew up a HUGE basketball fan. Spent every minute of my childhood playing it. I was realistic however in knowing that despite my hard work, knowledge of the sport and talent, it would be nearly impossible to overcome my height in a sport that is geared toward gigantic athletes. Therefore, my appreciation for pros has grown continuously over the years. To see guys put all their hard work in and have bogus decisions happen to rid them of the rewards; To see teams in basketball work their asses off to execute only to have to battle the refs and flopping; it's utterly egregious and disgusting IMO.
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post Jun 11 2012, 03:59 PM
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QUOTE (Franchize @ Jun 11 2012, 01:05 PM) *
mgrover you have every right to be angry. I'm passionate about basketball and boxing. As someone who rarely parties and is a homebody now, I'm even more passionate about watching sports. To see corruption unfairly overshadow the effort that these athletes put in day in and day out, is absolutely disheartening. I grew up a HUGE basketball fan. Spent every minute of my childhood playing it. I was realistic however in knowing that despite my hard work, knowledge of the sport and talent, it would be nearly impossible to overcome my height in a sport that is geared toward gigantic athletes. Therefore, my appreciation for pros has grown continuously over the years. To see guys put all their hard work in and have bogus decisions happen to rid them of the rewards; To see teams in basketball work their asses off to execute only to have to battle the refs and flopping; it's utterly egregious and disgusting IMO.


+1000 with the NBA officiating is horrible!!!!!! Boxing is honestly not going any where and is definitely getting a lot of attention because of this but as long as TR exists we will have this type of non sense reoccuring.
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post Jun 11 2012, 04:37 PM
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QUOTE (Thickback @ Jun 11 2012, 04:59 PM) *
+1000 with the NBA officiating is horrible!!!!!! Boxing is honestly not going any where and is definitely getting a lot of attention because of this but as long as TR exists we will have this type of non sense reoccuring.


i can't believe i'm saying this....but TR had nothing to do with williams/lara or campillo/cloud.

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post Jun 12 2012, 08:13 AM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jun 11 2012, 05:37 PM) *
i can't believe i'm saying this....but TR had nothing to do with williams/lara or campillo/cloud.

My point wasn't about the scoring. Look, normally when the susperstar wins unjustly, I'm pissed...but I get it. They don't want their prize possession to lose to a guy who they can't market. But this is a whole new ballgame. When your trying to set up 2-3 fights so your guys don't have to fight guys under other promotion labels, that ruins the sport. Look at Marquez. He's basically been put on the shelf for a Pacquiao fight. He's become the gimp in Pulp Fiction; somewhere stuffed in a back room until it's time for Bob Arum to fuck him over again. I said before Bradley even signed with Top Rank that he would be Manny's next opponent. Anything short of if Manny KO'd Bradley in the opening rounds, there was going to be a rematch. As long as it was competitive, there was always going to be a rematch. Bob Arum, for all his outrage, what shouting rematch the whole time. It was the 1st time I ever saw rematches being talked abotu so much in the pre-fight pressers. Bob Arum does a great job of thinking 2-3 fights ahead. Unfortunately for us, none of those fights ever include Mayweather.
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post Jun 12 2012, 09:07 AM
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QUOTE (Franchize @ Jun 12 2012, 09:13 AM) *
Bob Arum does a great job of thinking 2-3 fights ahead. Unfortunately for us, none of those fights ever include Mayweather.

Exactly, that's how Arum's been doing Manny's fight schedule for the past few years. He had Marquez lined up for Manny the day before the Mosley fight. Bob knows for a fact that he can make more money off of Manny in 2-3 fights without risking anything, rather than gambling it all away in 1 Mayweather fight.
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post Jun 12 2012, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Jun 12 2012, 10:07 AM) *
Exactly, that's how Arum's been doing Manny's fight schedule for the past few years. He had Marquez lined up for Manny the day before the Mosley fight. Bob knows for a fact that he can make more money off of Manny in 2-3 fights without risking anything, rather than gambling it all away in 1 Mayweather fight.

Plus, even if Manny wins the Mayweather fight, Arum is only getting Manny's purse... which will undoubtedly be less than half of the PPV.
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- mgrover   How much more   Jun 10 2012, 06:56 PM
- - Plah   Lara/Williams.   Jun 10 2012, 11:42 PM
- - sduck   Idk, but seeing Manny Pacquiao lose is making a lo...   Jun 11 2012, 02:11 AM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (sduck @ Jun 11 2012, 03:11 AM) Idk...   Jun 11 2012, 02:19 AM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (sduck @ Jun 11 2012, 08:11 AM) Idk...   Jun 11 2012, 09:50 AM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (mgrover @ Jun 11 2012, 09:50 AM) i...   Jun 11 2012, 01:22 PM
- - bnoles4life   Why are we so outraged, after all, Floyd channeled...   Jun 11 2012, 07:53 AM
- - mrwigi   QUOTE (mgrover @ Jun 10 2012, 07:56 PM) W...   Jun 11 2012, 08:04 AM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (mrwigi @ Jun 11 2012, 02:04 PM) U ...   Jun 11 2012, 09:51 AM
- - Cshel86   It sucks big time, but to be honest, confusion usu...   Jun 11 2012, 08:59 AM
- - Franchize   mgrover you have every right to be angry. I'm ...   Jun 11 2012, 12:05 PM
|- - Thickback   QUOTE (Franchize @ Jun 11 2012, 01:05 PM)...   Jun 11 2012, 03:59 PM
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|- - Franchize   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jun 11 2012, 05:37 P...   Jun 12 2012, 08:13 AM
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- - daprofessor   what i'm more pissed about than anything is th...   Jun 11 2012, 02:48 PM
|- - Franchize   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jun 11 2012, 03:48 P...   Jun 11 2012, 03:10 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Franchize @ Jun 11 2012, 04:10 PM)...   Jun 11 2012, 03:18 PM
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- - mgrover   all the bullshit the WBC gets away with   Jun 11 2012, 09:56 PM
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