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du365
post Jun 11 2012, 06:40 PM
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No disrespect for Bradley now, but his reputation may be ruin due to this controversial decision. No one will buy a fight that Bradley is in. He should have handed the belt back to Pacquiao. That would have made him get respect and fans. All the punches he though (90 percent of them) were blocked by Pacquiao. You can watch this fight 100 times with or without the volume up, and Manny wins about 8 of the 12 rounds., Bradley has no career. I feel bad for him. All this work to get to this point to believe a delusion that he won. Here is a list of over 50 professional boxing people that watched it and what they scored it.

1. Barry Tompkins, Showtime: 119-110 Pacquiao.
2. Harold Lederman, HBO: 119-109 Pacquiao.
3. Ray Markarian, The Sweet Science: 119-109 Pacquiao.
4. Michael Marley, Examiner: 119-109 Pacquiao.
5. Dan Rafael, ESPN: 119-109 Pacquiao.
6. Vittorio Tafur, San Francisco Chronicle: 119-109 Pacquiao.
7. Michael Woods, The Sweet Science: 119-109 Pacquiao.
8. Ramon Aranda, 3 More Rounds: 118-110 Pacquiao.
9. Mario Cabrera, Boxing Republic: 118-110 Pacquiao.
10. Nigel Collins, ESPN: 118-110 Pacquiao.
11. Mike Coppinger, Ring Magazine: 118-110 Pacquiao.
12. Ace Freeman, Fight Fan: 118-110 Pacquiao.
13. Rich Marotta, KFI Los Angeles: 118-110 Pacquiao.
14. Kelsey McCarson, The Sweet Science: 118-110 Pacquiao.
15. Gabriel Montoya, MaxBoxing: 118-110 Pacquiao.
16. Pete O’Brien, USA Today: 118-110 Pacquiao.
17. Eric Raskin, Grantland: 118-110 Pacquiao.
18. Michael Rosenthal, Ring Magazine: 118-110 Pacquiao.
19. Colin Seymour, Examiner: 118-110 Pacquiao.
20. Ryan Songalia, Ring Magazine: 118-110 Pacquiao.
21. Ryan Burton, Boxing Scene: 117-112 Pacquiao.
22. Scott Christ, Bad Left Hook: 117-111 Pacquiao.
23. Tim Dahlberg, Associated Press: 117-111 Pacquiao.
24. Gareth Davies, London Daily Telegraph: 117-111 Pacquiao.
25. Doug Fischer, Ring Magazine: 117-111 Pacquiao.
26. David Greisman, Boxing Scene: 117-111 Pacquiao.
27. Jorge Hernandez, The Low Blow: 117-111 Pacquiao.
28. Kevin Iole, Yahoo! Sports: 117-111 Pacquiao.
29. Robert Littal, Black Sports Online: 117-111 Pacquiao.
30. Steve Kim, Max Boxing: 117-111 Pacquiao.
31. Ryan Maquiñana, Comcast SportsNet Bay Area: 117-111 Pacquiao.
32. David Mayo, MLive: 117-111 Pacquiao.
33. Kieran Mulvaney, HBO: 117-111 Pacquiao.
34. Lance Pugmire, Los Angeles Times: 117-111 Pacquiao.
35. Chris Robinson, Boxing Scene: 117-111 Pacquiao.
36. Cliff Rold, Boxing Scene: 117-111 Pacquiao.
37. Champ Ross, The Truth Boxing: 117-111 Pacquiao.
38. Luis Sandoval, Boxing Scene: 117-111 Pacquiao.
39. Jonathan Sakti, Comcast SportsNet Bay Area: 117-111 Pacquiao.
40. Tim Starks, Queensberry Rules: 117-111 Pacquiao.
41. Richie Tomassini, Comcast SportsNet Bay Area: 117-111 Pacquiao.
42. Darren Velasco, 8 Count News: 117-111 Pacquiao.
43. Rick Reeno, Boxing Scene: 116-112 Pacquiao.
44. George Willis, New York Post: 116-112 Pacquiao.
45. Steve Zemach, Queensberry Rules: 116-112 Pacquiao.
46. Armando Alvarez, Telemundo: 115-113 Pacquiao.
47. Jake Donovan, Boxing Scene: 115-113 Pacquiao.
48. Lem Satterfield, Ring Magazine: 115-113 Pacquiao.
49. Thomas Hauser, HBO: 115-114 Bradley.
50. Bart Barry, 15 Rounds: 116-115 Bradley.
51. Brian Kenny, Top Rank: 116-112 Bradley.
52. Skip Bayless, ESPN: 119-110 Pacquiao.


TOTAL: Pacquiao 49, Bradley 3.OMG - If they don't give Manny his belt back. Boxing is finished...I will never ever pay for another fight Bradley is in.
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post Jun 11 2012, 07:06 PM
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i looked down that list....not very many experts there.

i would advise that all the "experts" attend a seminar and learn how fights are scored. i would also advise they step foot in a ring and learn a thing or two about boxing to qualify themselves as experts. i see a lot of ppl whose opinions are just as valid as anyone on this or any other board. the overwhelming majority on that list are ppl who write very biased material. i can go down the list and explain each one...but i won't. i'll just give u a quick example without naming names....

is a writer who works with freddie going to be fair and unbiased?

is a writer who shares the same ethnicity as pac going to be fair and unbiased?

is a writer who desperately wants to see pac/mayweather going to be fair and unbiased?

is a writer who trains regularly at the wildcard going to be fair and unbiased?

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bnoles4life
post Jun 11 2012, 07:20 PM
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QUOTE (du365 @ Jun 11 2012, 06:40 PM) *
No disrespect for Bradley now, but his reputation may be ruin due to this controversial decision. No one will buy a fight that Bradley is in. He should have handed the belt back to Pacquiao. That would have made him get respect and fans. All the punches he though (90 percent of them) were blocked by Pacquiao. You can watch this fight 100 times with or without the volume up, and Manny wins about 8 of the 12 rounds., Bradley has no career. I feel bad for him. All this work to get to this point to believe a delusion that he won. Here is a list of over 50 professional boxing people that watched it and what they scored it.

1. Barry Tompkins, Showtime: 119-110 Pacquiao.
2. Harold Lederman, HBO: 119-109 Pacquiao.
3. Ray Markarian, The Sweet Science: 119-109 Pacquiao.
4. Michael Marley, Examiner: 119-109 Pacquiao.
5. Dan Rafael, ESPN: 119-109 Pacquiao.
6. Vittorio Tafur, San Francisco Chronicle: 119-109 Pacquiao.
7. Michael Woods, The Sweet Science: 119-109 Pacquiao.
8. Ramon Aranda, 3 More Rounds: 118-110 Pacquiao.
9. Mario Cabrera, Boxing Republic: 118-110 Pacquiao.
10. Nigel Collins, ESPN: 118-110 Pacquiao.
11. Mike Coppinger, Ring Magazine: 118-110 Pacquiao.
12. Ace Freeman, Fight Fan: 118-110 Pacquiao.
13. Rich Marotta, KFI Los Angeles: 118-110 Pacquiao.
14. Kelsey McCarson, The Sweet Science: 118-110 Pacquiao.
15. Gabriel Montoya, MaxBoxing: 118-110 Pacquiao.
16. Pete O’Brien, USA Today: 118-110 Pacquiao.
17. Eric Raskin, Grantland: 118-110 Pacquiao.
18. Michael Rosenthal, Ring Magazine: 118-110 Pacquiao.
19. Colin Seymour, Examiner: 118-110 Pacquiao.
20. Ryan Songalia, Ring Magazine: 118-110 Pacquiao.
21. Ryan Burton, Boxing Scene: 117-112 Pacquiao.
22. Scott Christ, Bad Left Hook: 117-111 Pacquiao.
23. Tim Dahlberg, Associated Press: 117-111 Pacquiao.
24. Gareth Davies, London Daily Telegraph: 117-111 Pacquiao.
25. Doug Fischer, Ring Magazine: 117-111 Pacquiao.
26. David Greisman, Boxing Scene: 117-111 Pacquiao.
27. Jorge Hernandez, The Low Blow: 117-111 Pacquiao.
28. Kevin Iole, Yahoo! Sports: 117-111 Pacquiao.
29. Robert Littal, Black Sports Online: 117-111 Pacquiao.
30. Steve Kim, Max Boxing: 117-111 Pacquiao.
31. Ryan Maquiñana, Comcast SportsNet Bay Area: 117-111 Pacquiao.
32. David Mayo, MLive: 117-111 Pacquiao.
33. Kieran Mulvaney, HBO: 117-111 Pacquiao.
34. Lance Pugmire, Los Angeles Times: 117-111 Pacquiao.
35. Chris Robinson, Boxing Scene: 117-111 Pacquiao.
36. Cliff Rold, Boxing Scene: 117-111 Pacquiao.
37. Champ Ross, The Truth Boxing: 117-111 Pacquiao.
38. Luis Sandoval, Boxing Scene: 117-111 Pacquiao.
39. Jonathan Sakti, Comcast SportsNet Bay Area: 117-111 Pacquiao.
40. Tim Starks, Queensberry Rules: 117-111 Pacquiao.
41. Richie Tomassini, Comcast SportsNet Bay Area: 117-111 Pacquiao.
42. Darren Velasco, 8 Count News: 117-111 Pacquiao.
43. Rick Reeno, Boxing Scene: 116-112 Pacquiao.
44. George Willis, New York Post: 116-112 Pacquiao.
45. Steve Zemach, Queensberry Rules: 116-112 Pacquiao.
46. Armando Alvarez, Telemundo: 115-113 Pacquiao.
47. Jake Donovan, Boxing Scene: 115-113 Pacquiao.
48. Lem Satterfield, Ring Magazine: 115-113 Pacquiao.
49. Thomas Hauser, HBO: 115-114 Bradley.
50. Bart Barry, 15 Rounds: 116-115 Bradley.
51. Brian Kenny, Top Rank: 116-112 Bradley.
52. Skip Bayless, ESPN: 119-110 Pacquiao.


TOTAL: Pacquiao 49, Bradley 3.OMG - If they don't give Manny his belt back. Boxing is finished...I will never ever pay for another fight Bradley is in.
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How DARE you put Skip Bayless on this list!!!!
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post Jun 11 2012, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE (du365 @ Jun 11 2012, 06:40 PM) *
No disrespect for Bradley now, but his reputation may be ruin due to this controversial decision. No one will buy a fight that Bradley is in. He should have handed the belt back to Pacquiao. That would have made him get respect and fans. All the punches he though (90 percent of them) were blocked by Pacquiao. You can watch this fight 100 times with or without the volume up, and Manny wins about 8 of the 12 rounds., Bradley has no career. I feel bad for him. All this work to get to this point to believe a delusion that he won. Here is a list of over 50 professional boxing people that watched it and what they scored it.

1. Barry Tompkins, Showtime: 119-110 Pacquiao.
2. Harold Lederman, HBO: 119-109 Pacquiao.
3. Ray Markarian, The Sweet Science: 119-109 Pacquiao.
4. Michael Marley, Examiner: 119-109 Pacquiao.
5. Dan Rafael, ESPN: 119-109 Pacquiao.
6. Vittorio Tafur, San Francisco Chronicle: 119-109 Pacquiao.
7. Michael Woods, The Sweet Science: 119-109 Pacquiao.
8. Ramon Aranda, 3 More Rounds: 118-110 Pacquiao.
9. Mario Cabrera, Boxing Republic: 118-110 Pacquiao.
10. Nigel Collins, ESPN: 118-110 Pacquiao.
11. Mike Coppinger, Ring Magazine: 118-110 Pacquiao.
12. Ace Freeman, Fight Fan: 118-110 Pacquiao.
13. Rich Marotta, KFI Los Angeles: 118-110 Pacquiao.
14. Kelsey McCarson, The Sweet Science: 118-110 Pacquiao.
15. Gabriel Montoya, MaxBoxing: 118-110 Pacquiao.
16. Pete O’Brien, USA Today: 118-110 Pacquiao.
17. Eric Raskin, Grantland: 118-110 Pacquiao.
18. Michael Rosenthal, Ring Magazine: 118-110 Pacquiao.
19. Colin Seymour, Examiner: 118-110 Pacquiao.
20. Ryan Songalia, Ring Magazine: 118-110 Pacquiao.
21. Ryan Burton, Boxing Scene: 117-112 Pacquiao.
22. Scott Christ, Bad Left Hook: 117-111 Pacquiao.
23. Tim Dahlberg, Associated Press: 117-111 Pacquiao.
24. Gareth Davies, London Daily Telegraph: 117-111 Pacquiao.
25. Doug Fischer, Ring Magazine: 117-111 Pacquiao.
26. David Greisman, Boxing Scene: 117-111 Pacquiao.
27. Jorge Hernandez, The Low Blow: 117-111 Pacquiao.
28. Kevin Iole, Yahoo! Sports: 117-111 Pacquiao.
29. Robert Littal, Black Sports Online: 117-111 Pacquiao.
30. Steve Kim, Max Boxing: 117-111 Pacquiao.
31. Ryan Maquiñana, Comcast SportsNet Bay Area: 117-111 Pacquiao.
32. David Mayo, MLive: 117-111 Pacquiao.
33. Kieran Mulvaney, HBO: 117-111 Pacquiao.
34. Lance Pugmire, Los Angeles Times: 117-111 Pacquiao.
35. Chris Robinson, Boxing Scene: 117-111 Pacquiao.
36. Cliff Rold, Boxing Scene: 117-111 Pacquiao.
37. Champ Ross, The Truth Boxing: 117-111 Pacquiao.
38. Luis Sandoval, Boxing Scene: 117-111 Pacquiao.
39. Jonathan Sakti, Comcast SportsNet Bay Area: 117-111 Pacquiao.
40. Tim Starks, Queensberry Rules: 117-111 Pacquiao.
41. Richie Tomassini, Comcast SportsNet Bay Area: 117-111 Pacquiao.
42. Darren Velasco, 8 Count News: 117-111 Pacquiao.
43. Rick Reeno, Boxing Scene: 116-112 Pacquiao.
44. George Willis, New York Post: 116-112 Pacquiao.
45. Steve Zemach, Queensberry Rules: 116-112 Pacquiao.
46. Armando Alvarez, Telemundo: 115-113 Pacquiao.
47. Jake Donovan, Boxing Scene: 115-113 Pacquiao.
48. Lem Satterfield, Ring Magazine: 115-113 Pacquiao.
49. Thomas Hauser, HBO: 115-114 Bradley.
50. Bart Barry, 15 Rounds: 116-115 Bradley.
51. Brian Kenny, Top Rank: 116-112 Bradley.
52. Skip Bayless, ESPN: 119-110 Pacquiao.


TOTAL: Pacquiao 49, Bradley 3.OMG - If they don't give Manny his belt back. Boxing is finished...I will never ever pay for another fight Bradley is in.
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Waiting on the part where Bradley's reputation may be ruined....
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post Jun 11 2012, 07:35 PM
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QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Jun 11 2012, 08:23 PM) *
Waiting on the part where Bradley's reputation may be ruined....


Me too, I'm also waiting for the "boxing expert" to speak.
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post Jun 11 2012, 07:57 PM
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QUOTE (dhoward126 @ Jun 11 2012, 07:35 PM) *
Me too, I'm also waiting for the "boxing expert" to speak.


Danny, right????? As far as I can tell, all Bradley did was fight last Saturday. Who knows, maybe he's the James Brown of boxing: fought, scored the fight, set up the conspiracy, ensured its completion.......
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post Jun 11 2012, 08:01 PM
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i think this batch of "experts" is acceptable.

43. Rick Reeno, Boxing Scene: 116-112 Pacquiao.
44. George Willis, New York Post: 116-112 Pacquiao.
45. Steve Zemach, Queensberry Rules: 116-112 Pacquiao.
46. Armando Alvarez, Telemundo: 115-113 Pacquiao.
47. Jake Donovan, Boxing Scene: 115-113 Pacquiao.
48. Lem Satterfield, Ring Magazine: 115-113 Pacquiao.
49. Thomas Hauser, HBO: 115-114 Bradley.
50. Bart Barry, 15 Rounds: 116-115 Bradley.
51. Brian Kenny, Top Rank: 116-112 Bradley.
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post Jun 11 2012, 08:02 PM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jun 11 2012, 09:01 PM) *
i think this batch of "experts" is acceptable.

43. Rick Reeno, Boxing Scene: 116-112 Pacquiao.
44. George Willis, New York Post: 116-112 Pacquiao.
45. Steve Zemach, Queensberry Rules: 116-112 Pacquiao.
46. Armando Alvarez, Telemundo: 115-113 Pacquiao.
47. Jake Donovan, Boxing Scene: 115-113 Pacquiao.
48. Lem Satterfield, Ring Magazine: 115-113 Pacquiao.
49. Thomas Hauser, HBO: 115-114 Bradley.
50. Bart Barry, 15 Rounds: 116-115 Bradley.
51. Brian Kenny, Top Rank: 116-112 Bradley.


wait...brian kenny works for top rank now!? since when???
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post Jun 11 2012, 08:54 PM
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QUOTE (du365 @ Jun 12 2012, 08:40 AM) *
No disrespect for Bradley now, but his reputation may be ruin due to this controversial decision. No one will buy a fight that Bradley is in. He should have handed the belt back to Pacquiao. That would have made him get respect and fans. All the punches he though (90 percent of them) were blocked by Pacquiao. You can watch this fight 100 times with or without the volume up, and Manny wins about 8 of the 12 rounds., Bradley has no career. I feel bad for him. All this work to get to this point to believe a delusion that he won. Here is a list of over 50 professional boxing people that watched it and what they scored it.

1. Barry Tompkins, Showtime: 119-110 Pacquiao.
2. Harold Lederman, HBO: 119-109 Pacquiao.
3. Ray Markarian, The Sweet Science: 119-109 Pacquiao.
4. Michael Marley, Examiner: 119-109 Pacquiao.
5. Dan Rafael, ESPN: 119-109 Pacquiao.
6. Vittorio Tafur, San Francisco Chronicle: 119-109 Pacquiao.
7. Michael Woods, The Sweet Science: 119-109 Pacquiao.
8. Ramon Aranda, 3 More Rounds: 118-110 Pacquiao.
9. Mario Cabrera, Boxing Republic: 118-110 Pacquiao.
10. Nigel Collins, ESPN: 118-110 Pacquiao.
11. Mike Coppinger, Ring Magazine: 118-110 Pacquiao.
12. Ace Freeman, Fight Fan: 118-110 Pacquiao.
13. Rich Marotta, KFI Los Angeles: 118-110 Pacquiao.
14. Kelsey McCarson, The Sweet Science: 118-110 Pacquiao.
15. Gabriel Montoya, MaxBoxing: 118-110 Pacquiao.
16. Pete O’Brien, USA Today: 118-110 Pacquiao.
17. Eric Raskin, Grantland: 118-110 Pacquiao.
18. Michael Rosenthal, Ring Magazine: 118-110 Pacquiao.
19. Colin Seymour, Examiner: 118-110 Pacquiao.
20. Ryan Songalia, Ring Magazine: 118-110 Pacquiao.
21. Ryan Burton, Boxing Scene: 117-112 Pacquiao.
22. Scott Christ, Bad Left Hook: 117-111 Pacquiao.
23. Tim Dahlberg, Associated Press: 117-111 Pacquiao.
24. Gareth Davies, London Daily Telegraph: 117-111 Pacquiao.
25. Doug Fischer, Ring Magazine: 117-111 Pacquiao.
26. David Greisman, Boxing Scene: 117-111 Pacquiao.
27. Jorge Hernandez, The Low Blow: 117-111 Pacquiao.
28. Kevin Iole, Yahoo! Sports: 117-111 Pacquiao.
29. Robert Littal, Black Sports Online: 117-111 Pacquiao.
30. Steve Kim, Max Boxing: 117-111 Pacquiao.
31. Ryan Maquiñana, Comcast SportsNet Bay Area: 117-111 Pacquiao.
32. David Mayo, MLive: 117-111 Pacquiao.
33. Kieran Mulvaney, HBO: 117-111 Pacquiao.
34. Lance Pugmire, Los Angeles Times: 117-111 Pacquiao.
35. Chris Robinson, Boxing Scene: 117-111 Pacquiao.
36. Cliff Rold, Boxing Scene: 117-111 Pacquiao.
37. Champ Ross, The Truth Boxing: 117-111 Pacquiao.
38. Luis Sandoval, Boxing Scene: 117-111 Pacquiao.
39. Jonathan Sakti, Comcast SportsNet Bay Area: 117-111 Pacquiao.
40. Tim Starks, Queensberry Rules: 117-111 Pacquiao.
41. Richie Tomassini, Comcast SportsNet Bay Area: 117-111 Pacquiao.
42. Darren Velasco, 8 Count News: 117-111 Pacquiao.
43. Rick Reeno, Boxing Scene: 116-112 Pacquiao.
44. George Willis, New York Post: 116-112 Pacquiao.
45. Steve Zemach, Queensberry Rules: 116-112 Pacquiao.
46. Armando Alvarez, Telemundo: 115-113 Pacquiao.
47. Jake Donovan, Boxing Scene: 115-113 Pacquiao.
48. Lem Satterfield, Ring Magazine: 115-113 Pacquiao.
49. Thomas Hauser, HBO: 115-114 Bradley.
50. Bart Barry, 15 Rounds: 116-115 Bradley.
51. Brian Kenny, Top Rank: 116-112 Bradley.
52. Skip Bayless, ESPN: 119-110 Pacquiao.


TOTAL: Pacquiao 49, Bradley 3.OMG - If they don't give Manny his belt back. Boxing is finished...I will never ever pay for another fight Bradley is in.
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loooooooooool I'll be nice because you obviously a pactard (IMG:style_emoticons/default/offtopic.gif) , Sorry, I mean a Pacquiao fan (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumbsup_anim.gif) .

Okay Bradley should hand the title back to Pacquiao, then upon receiving the title Pacquiao should walk out to the audience and hand the title back to JMM, who beat him 3times. Seems fair right?

p.s I had Pacquiao winning the fight too, stop huggin'.

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post Jun 11 2012, 09:39 PM
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lmao, the only people who gave it to bradley were top rank commentators (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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