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Jun 15 2012, 01:16 PM
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Junior Welterweight Group: Members Posts: 1,491 Joined: 28-December 11 Member No.: 13,419 |
I don't think enough can be said about the lack of apprenticeship in Boxing. All the great boxer's came from some type of lineage in boxing. Skills that have been cultivated and refined by pugilist and true students of the game. Boxing was once an art. Now, so many fighters are just wastes of raw athleticism. I honestly believe it's because, unless you're fortunate enough to have some type of conection with Teddy Atlas, Manny Steward and Kronk, the Mayweathers, Freddy Roach and Wild Card etc, you aren't getting proper tutelage. I'm not trying to begrudge these noble trainers for quitting their profession to help disadvantaged youth find a positive outlet to release their aggression. However, if you don't have the proper knowledge of the sport, when your fighter gets of a certain skill level, you have to refer him to a higher quality trainer. It's cool to be loyal, but too many young fighters are getting clipped off before they can reach their full potential and before they get that huge pay day. Fighters are so devoid of fundamentals that even tune up fights aren't as predictable as they used to be. Do upsets make for great parody? Absolutely! But it should not be the norm. When top, undefeated guys are getting beat by ungerdogs with very little upside on a regular basis, it's no longer exciting; It just speaks to the lack of skill in the sport.
There's a difference between talent and skill. When you employ trainers who lack a lot of boxing knowledge, they tend to mistake talent for skill. When you mistake talent for skill, it usually gets you knocked the fuck out. Getting knocked the fuck out keeps you from getting lucrative pay days and notoriety. Lack of notoriety leads to apathy of your peer group toward the sport. Apathy of your peer group leads to a minimization of the pool of talented athletes. Minimization of the pool of athletes leads to the decline of the sport. Don't employ trainers who lack boxing knowledge. lol |
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Jun 15 2012, 01:41 PM
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Light Heavyweight Group: Members Posts: 4,189 Joined: 20-May 11 From: killa kali Member No.: 12,336 |
I don't think enough can be said about the lack of apprenticeship in Boxing. All the great boxer's came from some type of lineage in boxing. Skills that have been cultivated and refined by pugilist and true students of the game. Boxing was once an art. Now, so many fighters are just wastes of raw athleticism. I honestly believe it's because, unless you're fortunate enough to have some type of conection with Teddy Atlas, Manny Steward and Kronk, the Mayweathers, Freddy Roach and Wild Card etc, you aren't getting proper tutelage. I'm not trying to begrudge these noble trainers for quitting their profession to help disadvantaged youth find a positive outlet to release their aggression. However, if you don't have the proper knowledge of the sport, when your fighter gets of a certain skill level, you have to refer him to a higher quality trainer. It's cool to be loyal, but too many young fighters are getting clipped off before they can reach their full potential and before they get that huge pay day. Fighters are so devoid of fundamentals that even tune up fights aren't as predictable as they used to be. Do upsets make for great parody? Absolutely! But it should not be the norm. When top, undefeated guys are getting beat by ungerdogs with very little upside on a regular basis, it's no longer exciting; It just speaks to the lack of skill in the sport. There's a difference between talent and skill. When you employ trainers who lack a lot of boxing knowledge, they tend to mistake talent for skill. When you mistake talent for skill, it usually gets you knocked the fuck out. Getting knocked the fuck out keeps you from getting lucrative pay days and notoriety. Lack of notoriety leads to apathy of your peer group toward the sport. Apathy of your peer group leads to a minimization of the pool of talented athletes. Minimization of the pool of athletes leads to the decline of the sport. Don't employ trainers who lack boxing knowledge. lol excellent post!!! the bolded sounded like a commercial. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) i totally agree with everything said. michael king makes a very valid point about apprenticeship in boxing. his program is a solid one that should be duplicated throughout the country. it has proven to be successful and will produce champions, i'm sure. |
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Jun 16 2012, 08:35 AM
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Junior Welterweight Group: Members Posts: 1,491 Joined: 28-December 11 Member No.: 13,419 |
excellent post!!! the bolded sounded like a commercial. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) i totally agree with everything said. michael king makes a very valid point about apprenticeship in boxing. his program is a solid one that should be duplicated throughout the country. it has proven to be successful and will produce champions, i'm sure. Its the direct tv commercial lol "Dont end up in a road side ditch" |
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Jun 16 2012, 08:39 AM
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Junior Welterweight Group: Members Posts: 1,491 Joined: 28-December 11 Member No.: 13,419 |
excellent post!!! the bolded sounded like a commercial. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) i totally agree with everything said. michael king makes a very valid point about apprenticeship in boxing. his program is a solid one that should be duplicated throughout the country. it has proven to be successful and will produce champions, i'm sure. It will probably take former boxers to make such programs gain popularity. Unfortunately, most of them wont have the funds to sustain said venture because theyre being buttfucked by the Bob Arums of the world who believe every cornerman not named Roach are the enemy. |
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Jun 16 2012, 01:28 PM
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Junior Welterweight Group: Members Posts: 1,156 Joined: 5-October 11 From: Dayton, OH Member No.: 13,299 |
excellent post!!! the bolded sounded like a commercial. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) i totally agree with everything said. michael king makes a very valid point about apprenticeship in boxing. his program is a solid one that should be duplicated throughout the country. it has proven to be successful and will produce champions, i'm sure. Professor is a baaaaad man (Cassius Clay voice) |
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Jun 17 2012, 07:44 PM
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Light Heavyweight Group: Members Posts: 4,189 Joined: 20-May 11 From: killa kali Member No.: 12,336 |
It will probably take former boxers to make such programs gain popularity. Unfortunately, most of them wont have the funds to sustain said venture because theyre being buttfucked by the Bob Arums of the world who believe every cornerman not named Roach are the enemy. on their coaching staff they have simon brown, henry tillman, john bray, manny robles and prentiss bird who runs it. i think that is a solid line up. the ppl who finance that program are not casual fans. they're die-hards who understand the sport inside and out. if their superheavy wins gold...i can't see the program going away anytime soon. |
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Jun 17 2012, 07:47 PM
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Light Heavyweight Group: Members Posts: 4,189 Joined: 20-May 11 From: killa kali Member No.: 12,336 |
Professor is a baaaaad man (Cassius Clay voice) rumble young man rumble!!! aaaaaaah!!!! (IMG:http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/files/2011/04/muhammed_ali_yell.jpg) |
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