[Gambit808]

Few things you can't knock about this kid is 1st his record, his chin, his will to win, and lately his fan friendly matches. Love or hate that was yet another great & exciting performance... BUT... Am I the only one here that thinks this kid may be Juicing or something? I mean why every time this kid fights in Texas theres always some pre fight drama or lack of drug testing? At the weigh-in both Chavez jr. And lee looked exactly what the scale read (pretty much the same) with lee probably a quarter over... Then came fight night and he (Chavez jr.) looked more like he came to fight Chad Dawson instead of Andy lee. I mean did they even show his fight night weight? I must have missed it if they did but either way what's the point of setting a WEIGHT LIMIT for just the SCALE and NOT THE FIGHT?

I could be wrong but until I hear that Chavez jr. Has agreed to osdt then I could be right also.

But am I the only 1?

[daprofessor]

Few things you can't knock about this kid is 1st his record, his chin, his will to win, and lately his fan friendly matches. Love or hate that was yet another great & exciting performance... BUT... Am I the only one here that thinks this kid may be Juicing or something? I mean why every time this kid fights in Texas theres always some pre fight drama or lack of drug testing? At the weigh-in both Chavez jr. And lee looked exactly what the scale read (pretty much the same) with lee probably a quarter over... Then came fight night and he (Chavez jr.) looked more like he came to fight Chad Dawson instead of Andy lee. I mean did they even show his fight night weight? I must have missed it if they did but either way what's the point of setting a WEIGHT LIMIT for just the SCALE and NOT THE FIGHT?

I could be wrong but until I hear that Chavez jr. Has agreed to osdt then I could be right also.

But am I the only 1?

well....he is fighting in texas. anything is possible. i also wonder about that whole glove incident. i'd like to see that cleared up or put to rest. i don't want to believe that there is something to that.

[Gambit808]

well....he is fighting in texas. anything is possible. i also wonder about that whole glove incident. i'd like to see that cleared up or put to rest. i don't want to believe that there is something to that.

Exactly, I mean I don't wanna sound like I'm knockin the kid because he has come a ways and seems to be a ppv star in the making but he seems suspect to me, not only because it's in Texas but because of reports like the one you just brought up that makes me not trust this kids natural talent

[daprofessor]

Exactly, I mean I don't wanna sound like I'm knockin the kid because he has come a ways and seems to be a ppv star in the making but he seems suspect to me, not only because it's in Texas but because of reports like the one you just brought up that makes me not trust this kids natural talent

all that extra shit is unnecessary. u either have it or u don't. i think he has it.

[checkleft]

He undoubtedly has potential but he's pampered. He skipped drug tests got caught on ped maskers and comes in 20+ pounds overweight on fight night. It's simple, get in shape or move up in weight and take your tests

[Franchize]

He undoubtedly has potential but he's pampered. He skipped drug tests got caught on ped maskers and comes in 20+ pounds overweight on fight night. It's simple, get in shape or move up in weight and take your tests

He got caught on PED maskers? Really? I never knew that. You got an article by any chance?

[Cshel86]

He got caught on PED maskers? Really? I never knew that. You got an article by any chance?

Here ya go...I almost thought this incriminating piece of evidence would be launched into No Man's Land, but I found it with ease...surprisingly.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/ne...tory?id=4716150

Middleweight Julio Cesar Chavez Jr., the son of the former three-division champion and Mexican icon, tested positive for a banned substance in conjunction with his Nov. 14 fight against Troy Rowland, according to the Nevada State Athletic Commission.

Executive director Keith Kizer said Saturday that Chavez, who tested positive for Furosemide, a diuretic, faces a fine and suspension.

Julio Cesar Chavez Jr., right, won a 10-round middleweight decision against Troy Rowland last month. Chavez faces a fine and ban in Nevada.
Chavez (41-0-1, 30 KOs) won a 10-round decision against Rowland in the co-featured bout on the Manny Pacquiao-Miguel Cotto undercard at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. Kizer said the positive results came from Chavez's pre-fight urinalysis.

All of the other boxers on the card had negative test results, Kizer said.

The commission filed a formal complaint on Tuesday against Chavez. He has 20 days to respond, which will be followed by a hearing at a date to be determined. If Chavez does not respond to the complaint, the commission may reach a decision in his absence.

If the commission upholds the test result, which it usually does, the result of the fight would be changed to a no decision.

According to the complaint, Chavez, 23, faces a suspension of up to nine months and a fine that could equal his entire $100,000 purse, although fighters are typically fined a smaller portion in these cases. In addition, Chavez would be required to provide a negative urine test before he's allowed to fight in Nevada again.

Chavez, a cash cow for promoters Top Rank and Mexico-based Zanfer Promotions, would be barred from fighting in the United States during a suspension. However, it would not prevent him from fighting in Mexico, where he has fought most of his bouts and draws big crowds as the headliner on Top Rank's series of "Latin Fury" pay-per-view cards.

"I think it was an innocent mistake, one that the Nevada commission will have to deal with, as well as Chavez," said Top Rank's Carl Moretti. "I don't think he knew diuretics were banned by the Nevada commission."

Dan Rafael covers boxing for ESPN.com.

[bnoles4life]

Here ya go...I almost thought this incriminating piece of evidence would be launched into No Man's Land, but I found it with ease...surprisingly.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/ne...tory?id=4716150

What's funny is Furosemide is Lasix, a diuretic, often prescribed to patients w/ Heart Failure. It helps the body to excrete excess fluid, but often at the expense of the person's potassium. I'm curious as to how that earns the moniker "Performance Enhancing"?

[Cshel86]

What's funny is Furosemide is Lasix, a diuretic, often prescribed to patients w/ Heart Failure. It helps the body to excrete excess fluid, but often at the expense of the person's potassium. I'm curious as to how that earns the moniker "Performance Enhancing"?

I thought the same thing, because its easy to associate the term "diuretics" with "diarrhea". Here is another excerpt that i found about diuretics...

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111...0789.x/abstract

Diuretics are often abused by athletes to excrete water for rapid weight loss and to mask the presence of other banned substances. Because of their abuse by athletes, diuretics have been included on The World Anti-Doping Agency's (WADA) list of prohibited substances; the use of diuretics is banned both in competition and out of competition and diuretics are routinely screened for by anti-doping laboratories. This review provides an overview of the pharmacology and toxicology of diuretics and discusses their application in sports. The most common analytical strategies currently followed by the anti-doping laboratories accredited by the WADA are discussed along with the challenges laboratories face for the analysis of this diverse class of drugs.

According to the ESPN article, the substance was found in his "pre-fight" urinalysis results. Was he able to provide urine before last weekend's bout? Nope. Did he provide urine after the Rubio fight in Texas? Hell no. Did he more than likely NOT provide urine after last weekend's bout in Texas? That remains to be seen.

I also found this piece of info on how diuretics help athletes pass tests...

Diuretics

What are they?
Diuretics are drugs that change your body's natural balance of fluids and salts (electrolytes) and can lead to dehydration. This loss of water can decrease an athlete's weight, helping him or her to compete in a lighter weight class, which many athletes prefer. Diuretics may also help athletes pass drug tests by diluting their urine and are sometimes referred to as a "masking" agent.

Risks
Diuretics taken an any dose, even medically recommended doses, predispose athletes to adverse effects such as:

Dehydration
Muscle cramps
Exhaustion
Dizziness
Potassium deficiency
Heart arrhythmias
Drop in blood pressure
Heatstroke
Death

[checkleft]

Informative stuff chels