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Cshel86
post Jun 25 2012, 07:32 PM
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I have been bringing this up over the past few weeks in regards to HBO. Their whole "the megafight is ours" attitude is leading to their demise.

1. Public display of nuthuggery (that word makes me laugh every time I hear it)
2. Putting waaay too much stock into network fighter that they "believe" will raise their ratings
3. Bad matchmaking
4. Lackluster performances in overhyped fights
5. 24/7 series is hit and miss

What I've seen from Showtime as of late, is great fights. Not sure if Im the only one who notices this, but it seems like fighters on that network, dont have this big fuckin' cloud of fighting to "measure up" against the expectations of the megafight.

On HBO, you have guy fighting in this "delusionally competitive" manner, and hoping to shine since this IS the "mgeafight" network. Guys are either overmatched and end up not living up to the hype, or they fight so cautiously (with bigger fights in mind) that they put on lackluster performances.

HBO is hanging on to the whole idea of this fight happening on their network, and they're slowly killing the network. Mind you, I watch EVERY fight that airs, regardless of the station, but watching Showtime gives me this feeling of relief, sort of like the weekend...no more answering phones, working with idiot coworkers & customers, no more listening to the same shit...you actually have a breather from the nonsense.

One more thing, has anybody noticed lesser known guys becoming upset artists and bigger names on Showtime? Think about it...

1. Back in 2010, Salido was fed to Gamboa to make him look good, but he fought Lopez on Showtime and became the man overnight.
2. Josesito Lopez (sp) was fed to Jessie Vargas to help Jessie become a star (and almost kicked his ass) and was totally forgotten about, but got an Ortiz bout in Showtime and scored an upset.
3. Ward was overlooked on HBO, and got dates on Showtime...now look at him.
4. Quillin was overlooked on HBO, but got a date on a decent card on Showtime. He was supposed to be in the FMJ/Cotto card, but nobody wanted to see it.

Thoughts? Anything to add?
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Thickback
post Jun 30 2012, 08:08 AM
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I've been saying for some time that Showtime is showing up HBO. Larry Merchant needs to retire and never be behind any mic ever again. He can completely ruin a good fight with his expectations of "drama" in every fight. Their hate for Floyd Mayweather completely rutned me off to the team of Jim, Larry and Emmanuel. Roy and Max are the only two I can I like, although as of late, Manny has been much better, (and typically is better than Jim and Larry but joins in their hate trains some times). But the Nuthuggery is definitely where shit gets out of hand.

Anywho, Showtime's fights have more than lived up to the hype and their only blunders in the last few years is....

1. The presentation of the Super Six trophy to Andrew Ward....wtf was that????
2. Screwing themselves out of Froch/Bute!!!! That should have been a nationally televised ass whooping!!!! I had to watch the fight online the next day on my phone!!!! wtf....
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post Jun 30 2012, 10:02 AM
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QUOTE (Thickback @ Jun 30 2012, 09:08 AM) *
Larry Merchant needs to retire



I actually have come to like larry over the years. He is a blood and guts guy, thats OK. I think floyd is a little overly dramatic. If he answered the critisizm in a clear confident way he could turn it around. Instead he comes off as a self important child.

Jim at times is a good blow by blow man and certainly has the voice. As of late his enthusiasm for the house fighters has gotten the best of him. Someone higher up needs to have a talk w him about keeping his emotions, at least to a point, in check.

Every announcer has their strengths and weaknesses. Bernstein for all his knowledge of the sport can be a bit monotone and has always had the critisizm that he acts that if any fighter did exactly as he wishes they would have the fight won.
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- Cshel86   Showtime is "Showing up"...HBO fakes it 'til they make it.   Jun 25 2012, 07:32 PM
- - daprofessor   ward and his ppl actually decided to fly under the...   Jun 26 2012, 01:17 AM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jun 26 2012, 02:17 A...   Jun 26 2012, 10:08 AM
- - Franchize   If Showtime's cameras were as good as HBO, and...   Jun 26 2012, 11:15 AM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Franchize @ Jun 26 2012, 11:15 AM)...   Jun 26 2012, 11:59 AM
- - Gambit808   Fuck it showtime has been killin it with the fight...   Jun 26 2012, 12:16 PM
- - Jack 1000   Good points! I like HBO better for movies, bu...   Jun 26 2012, 03:27 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Jun 26 2012, 03:27 PM)...   Jun 26 2012, 07:00 PM
|- - trickster   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jun 26 2012, 08:00 P...   Jun 27 2012, 04:58 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (trickster @ Jun 27 2012, 05:58 PM)...   Jun 27 2012, 07:08 PM
|- - trickster   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jun 27 2012, 08:08 P...   Jun 29 2012, 05:06 PM
- - Cshel86   Damn, I need to go back and research DiBella's...   Jun 26 2012, 09:39 PM
- - The Original MrFactor   Great Post. I've been saying this for a few ye...   Jun 27 2012, 07:04 PM
- - Hotsauce   showtime>>>>hbo   Jun 27 2012, 10:07 PM
- - Thickback   I've been saying for some time that Showtime i...   Jun 30 2012, 08:08 AM
|- - trickster   QUOTE (Thickback @ Jun 30 2012, 09:08 AM)...   Jun 30 2012, 10:02 AM
|- - Jack 1000   QUOTE (trickster @ Jun 30 2012, 10:02 AM)...   Jul 1 2012, 02:21 AM
- - fightscoreollector   I also think recently that SHO have been better th...   Jul 1 2012, 10:50 AM


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