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> should hbo just reel in jim lampley, or get rid of him altogether?
daprofessor
post Jul 15 2012, 03:34 PM
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the guy is extremely pathetic as a commentator. waaay too biased. it's almost sad. maybe someone should tell him to lay off the weed and he wouldn't be so homotional. he has to go.

either that or give us the option to watch without commentary and just the ring and crowd noise. that is even better than being at the fight imo.
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Jack 1000
post Mar 26 2013, 01:41 PM
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The thng is though if HBO seriously gets rid of Lamply, what's to stop another HBO pom-pom shaking commentator from taking his place? For the last 15 years or so, I believe that HBO had a agenda, I would suspect, started by Ross Greenberg where they wanted to build "stars." That's why they "went Ga-Ga " even when Roy Jones fought a school teacher or garbageman. I believe that Mr. Greenberg saw the fighter as the star himself and that was more important than the most two-sided competitive fights. The most two-sided competitive fights were due to Lou Dibella's brain-trust at the network with the development of the HBO ORIGINAL Boxing After Dark Series that all but guaranteed thrilling matches that were by all accounts, jaw-dropping amazing.

Lou Dibella is a boxing man. Ross Greenberg is a business man, and somewhere between Lou leaving HBO the network gradually transcended into "build a star" against C+ competition and establish long term relationship promotional contracts with the promoter allowing the HBO fighter to do what he wanted, when he wanted, and how he wanted. In Lamply's defense, the pom-pom shaking was not all his fault. It was a bi-product of the system.

If Jim was under a knowledgeable boxing department at HBO, he could be "reeled in." and I would be happy if he stayed. However, Dibella isn't there anymore, and even Ross Greenberg who started the "build a star" against C grade fighters is now over at Showtime thanks to the Mayweather deal.

Jim represents the bigger problem of HBO, who has a pom-pom shaking agenda for the star fighter, regardless of opposition. Remember, early Jim Lamply was not like that. He could have changed, but political and personnel changes in the shell of what used to be a great boxing department, in addition to Jim's advancing age, have basically forced him into a "build a star" mode at HBO for the rest of his tenure with them. Max Kellerman will just become the new pom-pom shaker when Jim retires from HBO.

In thinking about this more, it's not Jim that is so much the problem, it's the business management system at HBO with how fighters are promoted and marketed in the present day.

Jack
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- daprofessor   should hbo just reel in jim lampley   Jul 15 2012, 03:34 PM
- - Franchize   Last night I thought he was disrespectful when, im...   Jul 15 2012, 06:42 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Franchize @ Jul 15 2012, 06:42 PM)...   Jul 16 2012, 01:43 PM
- - Cshel86   C'mon Professor, we've been down this road...   Jul 15 2012, 07:05 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Jul 15 2012, 07:05 PM) C...   Jul 16 2012, 01:46 PM
- - Franchize   LMAO Big George was about to fry his ass up and sq...   Jul 16 2012, 08:27 AM
|- - bMaK   QUOTE (Franchize @ Jul 16 2012, 09:27 AM)...   Jul 17 2012, 10:50 AM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (bMaK @ Jul 17 2012, 10:50 AM) I un...   Jul 17 2012, 03:13 PM
|- - bMaK   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jul 17 2012, 04:13 P...   Jul 17 2012, 03:41 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (bMaK @ Jul 17 2012, 03:41 PM) Shii...   Sep 6 2012, 07:30 PM
- - BigFightFan   That rap/hip-hop line got me also. Big George was ...   Jul 16 2012, 11:14 AM
- - Cshel86   LMAO!!! Yall and these damn grill re...   Jul 16 2012, 11:21 AM
- - flazi   lampley was with his phatom punches again.   Jul 16 2012, 02:17 PM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jul 16 2012, 02:46 P...   Jul 16 2012, 02:28 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Jul 16 2012, 02:28 PM) I...   Jul 16 2012, 06:38 PM
- - Jack 1000   Lampley was amazing 10-15 years ago. But now he...   Jul 16 2012, 08:25 PM
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|- - Jack 1000   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jul 17 2012, 12:56 A...   Jul 17 2012, 03:49 AM
- - Jack 1000   If you want to complain about Jim Lamply's bia...   Jul 16 2012, 08:46 PM
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- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jul 15 2012, 03:34 P...   Jul 17 2012, 08:14 AM
- - Cshel86   For some reason, I dont even feel smart enough to ...   Jul 17 2012, 09:19 AM
- - Jack 1000   Good You Tube Video about Jim Lamply's bias at...   Aug 30 2012, 01:00 AM
- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jul 15 2012, 03:34 P...   Sep 4 2012, 10:26 AM
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- - Cshel86   Rogan sucks, but Lampely sucks worse, especially f...   Sep 6 2012, 07:49 PM
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- - Jack 1000   Just to have a little fun with this thread! M...   Sep 12 2012, 03:55 PM
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- - Jack 1000   Lamply has become the WORST fucking pom-pom shaker...   Dec 11 2012, 05:55 PM
- - mgrover   they were really on manny dicks, but what can ya e...   Dec 11 2012, 06:52 PM
- - daprofessor   i missed his bullshit. i was watching in a crowded...   Dec 11 2012, 06:56 PM
- - Gambit808   I have no Problems with Lampley besides his skepti...   Dec 11 2012, 07:32 PM
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- - Cshel86   You know shit is serious when Jack bumps an old th...   Dec 11 2012, 07:52 PM
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|- - Jack 1000   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Dec 11 2012, 06:52 PM) Y...   Dec 12 2012, 12:54 AM
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- - Franchize   Anybody have any footage of Lampley after the figh...   Dec 12 2012, 10:05 AM
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- - VJones   "He's not getting up Jim! He's no...   Dec 12 2012, 03:54 PM
- - Franchize   I found it. It was absolutely disgusting. 1st of a...   Dec 12 2012, 03:57 PM
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- - Jack 1000   Maybe a bunch of us should contact HBO over Jim...   Dec 12 2012, 11:40 PM
|- - Franchize   QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Dec 12 2012, 11:40 PM)...   Dec 13 2012, 09:46 AM
- - Gambit808   Well it looks like they'll be reeling in Larry...   Dec 13 2012, 05:26 PM
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- - Jack 1000   Watch this video!!!! HBO= Heavily...   Dec 13 2012, 11:29 PM
- - Franchize   I was going to vividly and poetically describe the...   Dec 14 2012, 01:11 PM
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- - Jack 1000   The thng is though if HBO seriously gets rid of La...   Mar 26 2013, 01:41 PM
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