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Aug 9 2012, 10:44 PM
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Welterweight Group: Members Posts: 1,623 Joined: 21-July 11 Member No.: 12,858 |
That was my concern as well, but hopefully, the fact that he got KTFO at this stage of his career for being careless and not listening, will motivate him to trust his corner's instructions. He was "supposed" to be the frontrunner for a Mayweather fight, but due to his recent mistakes, it's costed him that opportunity for the moment. Unless he does something BIG within the next year, that chance is out the window, so Im sure he'll make the necessary adjustments. Most fighters have extended the life of their careers by switching trainers (Mosley, OLDH, Tarver, Barrera), so it should do Khan some type of justice. Now that I think about it, Khan hiring Mayweather Sr. may add a bit of spice to a "possible" Mayweather fight in the future....if Khan follows through and makes a HUGE statement. If Floyd fought a PED user, and a guy that quit in the past, then Im sure he can make something of a Khan fight. That would be a good sell if Khan could somehow manage to get himself back into position to fight Mayweather. The angle of Floyd sr. being in Khan's corner would probably produce an epic 24/7 with the trash talk between Floyd sr, Roger, Floyd jr, and Khan lol Indeed his "I know what I'm doing" attitude is a concern but your right other fighters have benefited from a change in trainers, if he can get a trainer that can gain his complete focus, then he'll be all right. I think that Khan talks a lot of shit but I can see some genuine statements coming from him. I don't think he wants to be the no. 2 guy anymore and I'd think he would be willing to compromise and buy into a new system if he could get that one on one time with a new trainer |
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Aug 10 2012, 08:34 AM
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Junior Welterweight Group: Members Posts: 1,486 Joined: 28-December 11 Member No.: 13,419 |
I don't get why more fighters don't utilize Jeff. Jeff Mayweather has tons of that Mayweather boxing knowledge without that demonstrative personality that some fighters can't handle.
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Aug 10 2012, 10:18 AM
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"The Meanest Nice Guy" Group: Moderators Posts: 9,522 Joined: 11-May 11 From: Wherever Greatness is Bred Member No.: 12,050 |
That would be a good sell if Khan could somehow manage to get himself back into position to fight Mayweather. The angle of Floyd sr. being in Khan's corner would probably produce an epic 24/7 with the trash talk between Floyd sr, Roger, Floyd jr, and Khan lol Indeed his "I know what I'm doing" attitude is a concern but your right other fighters have benefited from a change in trainers, if he can get a trainer that can gain his complete focus, then he'll be all right. I think that Khan talks a lot of shit but I can see some genuine statements coming from him. I don't think he wants to be the no. 2 guy anymore and I'd think he would be willing to compromise and buy into a new system if he could get that one on one time with a new trainer I can see that happening as well, in regards to a nice build-up for a big fight. Khan needs that tough love from a trainer, hell, it's not like he hasn't shown himself some tough love by engaging in that retarded sparring session against that smaller guy that bested him before the Garcia fight. When those exposing fights like the Peterson fight and all-out clock cleaning fights (Garcia fight) happen (consecutively) when a guy is "supposed" to be this big star, changes have to be made. Im sure Khan felt like shit after those fights, and with good reason. No more "yes men" for him, he needs somebody to be straight up with him, NOT after he gets up off of the canvas....it's too late at that point. By the way, what champions does Sr. have anyway? None to my knowledge. That said, I'm sure he'd take in Khan, besides, that's a nice check in his pocket...something that he isn't getting with these prospects of his. I don't get why more fighters don't utilize Jeff. Jeff Mayweather has tons of that Mayweather boxing knowledge without that demonstrative personality that some fighters can't handle. This isn't a bad choice either! Im sure some folks have seen his fighters fall short in the ring, and decided to look the other way. For the most part, it was an error on the fighter's end, whether it was them not listening, or their trouble with conditioning. Sr. on the other hand...people view him as the chief reason for the Mayweather clan even being involved in the sport, which is true. Sr. pretty much started it all, so I guess guys look at him in that light, though he doesn't have any world champions. Fighters may look to him, and thinks that he has the secret formula to change their style and make them win fights. That sort of reminds me of those weight loss infomercials that make people think that they can lose 20 lbs in 2 weeks by taking a supplement, but the fine print clearly states that they have to change their diet and exercise regularly. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
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Aug 10 2012, 01:36 PM
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Light Heavyweight Group: Members Posts: 4,139 Joined: 20-May 11 From: killa kali Member No.: 12,336 |
I don't get why more fighters don't utilize Jeff. Jeff Mayweather has tons of that Mayweather boxing knowledge without that demonstrative personality that some fighters can't handle. i don't think jeff is on the same level as roger and floyd. he's better than most though. |
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Aug 10 2012, 01:43 PM
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Light Heavyweight Group: Members Posts: 4,139 Joined: 20-May 11 From: killa kali Member No.: 12,336 |
Do you you think Nazim could help him? i think nazim could help him....but i'm with cschel...i think he needs a more hands on approach and sr is the right guy for that. he'd be number 1 with sr...and sr will get him right immediately. he's going to show him his flaws immediately...and give him the solutions to fix them. floyd sr is underrated....and if u ask me, i've always thought he was lightyears ahead of freddie roach. i had the pleasure of watching floyd do his thing with ponchito bojado back in the day. bojado could have been something special if oscar didn't pull the plug on floyd sr working with him. i think amir has plenty to work with....and sr is the man to take him to the mountain top. |
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Aug 10 2012, 01:45 PM
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Light Heavyweight Group: Members Posts: 4,139 Joined: 20-May 11 From: killa kali Member No.: 12,336 |
Good post Shels. My only thing with Khan even switching trainers is I wonder if when the pressure in the fight turns up, will he throw away the game plan and tune his corner out? He has a track record of going off the handle and doing things his way "if u keep doing what ur doing....u'll keep gettin what ur gettin..." and "how we train is how we fight." -daprofessor floyd will drill him with the moves he needs to make. he did it for oscar and it prolonged his career....i believe he can do it for khan as well. |
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Aug 10 2012, 02:47 PM
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Junior Middleweight Group: Members Posts: 2,126 Joined: 23-May 11 Member No.: 12,366 |
i cant even blame roach for it, yes he needs to spent more time with khan, but i bet in that last round he told khan to stay the fuck away from him, but what did khan do, well he went and tried to outpunch him, whos fault is that?
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Aug 10 2012, 06:08 PM
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Light Heavyweight Group: Members Posts: 4,139 Joined: 20-May 11 From: killa kali Member No.: 12,336 |
i cant even blame roach for it, yes he needs to spent more time with khan, but i bet in that last round he told khan to stay the fuck away from him, but what did khan do, well he went and tried to outpunch him, whos fault is that? khan was talking knockout and making promises of a knockout all through the promotion of that fight at press conferences..."i promise you, i will knock him ou-oot!" roach should have reeled him in then and made it clear...'let the knock-out happen.' instead i read articles about roach saying how khan needed to knock garcia out or else he'd be robbed. he brought drama from pac/bradley to khan/garcia. boy was he wrong. khan was leading on the cards when the stoppage happened. when u go for the knock out...u get knocked the fuck out. |
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Aug 10 2012, 06:09 PM
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Welterweight Group: Members Posts: 1,969 Joined: 18-August 11 From: California Grown Member No.: 13,079 |
I don't think I've ever heard roach give defensive advice.. but I agree with mg the biggest problem is Khan not his corner
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Aug 10 2012, 07:45 PM
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Welterweight Group: Members Posts: 1,623 Joined: 21-July 11 Member No.: 12,858 |
i think nazim could help him....but i'm with cschel...i think he needs a more hands on approach and sr is the right guy for that. he'd be number 1 with sr...and sr will get him right immediately. he's going to show him his flaws immediately...and give him the solutions to fix them. floyd sr is underrated....and if u ask me, i've always thought he was lightyears ahead of freddie roach. i had the pleasure of watching floyd do his thing with ponchito bojado back in the day. bojado could have been something special if oscar didn't pull the plug on floyd sr working with him. i think amir has plenty to work with....and sr is the man to take him to the mountain top. Only problem I have with Floyd sr is his attitude.his fighters leave him all the time and that says alot |
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