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> Ward vs Chavez (Topics Merged), Any Interest? At 168?
Cshel86
post Aug 17 2012, 06:49 PM
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Okay guys, don't laugh at me, but I just thought about this. I would like to hear you guys' thoughts on how the fight would go, though Im sure most would give it to Ward easily. Maybe. Maybe not.

My biggest question is, how could their promoters put a huge spin on things and make this into a HUGE fight over the course of a year? I mean, Ward is big in the boxing world, but not so much with casual fans. Chavez is going to be big (that's what they're working towards), due to his name, if he can keep winning.

This would no doubt, be somewhat of a breakout fight for Ward, in regards to the world knowing who he is. The lifting is in the hands of Chavez's team...maybe a fight with Kelly Pavlik and some other notable name at 168 by the end of next year. He does have a pretty busy schedule, so it can be done...maybe May '14, if Ward stays at 68.

What are you guys' thoughts on the popularity of this fight? Fight results?

Oh yeah...Chavez is going to beat Sergio. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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mrchitown
post Aug 21 2012, 04:16 PM
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Just watched the preview of JCC jr-Martinez face off...can't wait til the fight lol. There both looking like their going to bring their A-game. I initially picked Sergio to win but the more I think about it the more it seems like a toss up fight to me at this point.

Eventually JCC jr will move to 168 but I see him having some serious issues against a Dirrell or Ward. I say this because those 2 fighters have a high skill level and are athletic. I think this will serve as an detriment to Chaverz jr at 168. He has none/minimal athleticism. He has a solid chin but I can't ignore the fact that his biggest strength in fights is his massive weight advantage which would disappear at 168. Even if he grew into a player at SMW I still don't see him contending with the Direll and Ward types. His defense has improved but it's still mediocre and that's being generous. And who's to say that power will carry up to SMW. I think he's food for these 2 and possibly others at 168 if he tries to be brave and fight them
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post Aug 21 2012, 05:01 PM
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QUOTE (mrchitown @ Aug 21 2012, 04:16 PM) *
Just watched the preview of JCC jr-Martinez face off...can't wait til the fight lol. There both looking like their going to bring their A-game. I initially picked Sergio to win but the more I think about it the more it seems like a toss up fight to me at this point.

Eventually JCC jr will move to 168 but I see him having some serious issues against a Dirrell or Ward. I say this because those 2 fighters have a high skill level and are athletic. I think this will serve as an detriment to Chaverz jr at 168. He has none/minimal athleticism. He has a solid chin but I can't ignore the fact that his biggest strength in fights is his massive weight advantage which would disappear at 168. Even if he grew into a player at SMW I still don't see him contending with the Direll and Ward types. His defense has improved but it's still mediocre and that's being generous. And who's to say that power will carry up to SMW. I think he's food for these 2 and possibly others at 168 if he tries to be brave and fight them


i can't help but to think about jr's old man...and how much he's really starting to look like him in the ring with his style. i agree...jr isn't an athlete...but he is a fighter...and like roy jones said..."a born fighter." i think he definitely has difficult times against both ward and dirrell..but i can see him beating dirrell. the pressure and body work would be enough to slow him down and i don't really think dirrell is a big puncher. dirrell has definite advantages over chavez but i could see this one playing out like chavez sr/m.taylor. it would go down to the wire.

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- Cshel86   Ward vs Chavez (Topics Merged)   Aug 17 2012, 06:49 PM
- - Gambit808   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Aug 17 2012, 07:49 PM) O...   Aug 17 2012, 08:04 PM
- - Jimmy   Mismatch.Easy work for SOG.   Aug 17 2012, 08:05 PM
- - mrchitown   If Ward decides to stay at SMW, I could see this b...   Aug 17 2012, 10:28 PM
- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Aug 17 2012, 07:49 PM) O...   Aug 18 2012, 10:38 PM
- - daprofessor   if they can get past their next opponents...this i...   Aug 19 2012, 02:32 PM
- - Cshel86   Great points guys! I just believe that if the...   Aug 19 2012, 09:12 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Aug 19 2012, 10:12 PM) G...   Aug 20 2012, 03:16 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Aug 20 2012, 04:16 P...   Aug 20 2012, 07:35 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Aug 20 2012, 07:35 PM) F...   Aug 20 2012, 08:23 PM
- - Franchize   I can't see Sergio flourishing once the fight ...   Aug 20 2012, 02:26 PM
- - mgrover   I think he'd get schooled, i doubt he could ev...   Aug 20 2012, 07:45 PM
- - Plah   Chavez loses badly against Sergio, Froch and Ward.   Aug 20 2012, 11:06 PM
- - checkleft   I don't think it would be very competitive hon...   Aug 21 2012, 12:35 AM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Aug 20 2012, 09:23 P...   Aug 21 2012, 08:19 AM
|- - Plah   QUOTE C'mon Plah, your mind is still stuck in ...   Aug 22 2012, 09:17 AM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Plah @ Aug 22 2012, 10:17 AM) I 10...   Aug 22 2012, 09:47 AM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Aug 22 2012, 10:47 AM) I...   Aug 22 2012, 01:51 PM
- - mgrover   i think people give him too much credit for the an...   Aug 21 2012, 09:40 AM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (mgrover @ Aug 21 2012, 09:40 AM) i...   Aug 21 2012, 01:50 PM
- - checkleft   I do agree with your final thoughts professor but ...   Aug 21 2012, 02:03 PM
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- - checkleft   By Arthur Abraham syndrome I meant his strength an...   Aug 21 2012, 03:05 PM
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- - mrchitown   Just watched the preview of JCC jr-Martinez face o...   Aug 21 2012, 04:16 PM
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|- - Franchize   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Aug 21 2012, 05:16 PM)...   Aug 22 2012, 09:41 AM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (Franchize @ Aug 22 2012, 09:41 AM)...   Aug 22 2012, 04:48 PM
- - checkleft   Idk how we can be sure about chavez chin when he h...   Aug 22 2012, 06:52 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (checkleft @ Aug 22 2012, 07:52 PM)...   Aug 22 2012, 06:57 PM
- - sduck   Ward would shut him down easy   Aug 23 2012, 06:52 AM
- - BoxingEinstein   Ward easily puts on a clinic on Chavez Jr. I do se...   Aug 24 2012, 02:00 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Aug 24 2012, 06:38 PM)...   Aug 24 2012, 06:10 PM
- - The Original MrFactor   If Chavez jr handles Sergio Martinez next week, wh...   Sep 8 2012, 11:10 PM
- - Franchize   I don't think Chavez would do it but sure. I...   Sep 8 2012, 11:25 PM
- - Cshel86   I saw this coming!!!!....... http...   Sep 8 2012, 11:31 PM
|- - The Original MrFactor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Sep 9 2012, 12:31 AM) I ...   Sep 9 2012, 12:23 AM
- - Plah   Nope.   Sep 8 2012, 11:31 PM
- - Hotsauce   yep   Sep 9 2012, 12:15 AM
- - Hotsauce   does arum want it?   Sep 9 2012, 12:17 AM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (Hotsauce @ Sep 9 2012, 12:17 AM) d...   Sep 9 2012, 12:33 AM
|- - Plah   QUOTE (checkleft @ Sep 9 2012, 01:33 AM) ...   Sep 9 2012, 10:54 AM
- - neophyte7   Hope Chavez survives Maravilla.. LMAO @Ward vs Cha...   Sep 9 2012, 01:16 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Sep 9 2012, 08:04 PM...   Sep 9 2012, 07:14 PM
- - daprofessor   if chavez beats martinez convincingly...ppl will b...   Sep 10 2012, 08:24 PM
|- - Hotsauce   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Sep 10 2012, 08:24 P...   Sep 11 2012, 02:14 AM
- - mrchitown   I think they will fight sooner or later but when e...   Sep 10 2012, 09:51 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Sep 10 2012, 09:51 PM)...   Sep 11 2012, 01:29 AM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (checkleft @ Sep 11 2012, 01:29 AM)...   Sep 11 2012, 10:56 AM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Sep 11 2012, 11:56 AM)...   Sep 11 2012, 12:36 PM
|- - Hotsauce   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Sep 11 2012, 12:36 PM) H...   Sep 11 2012, 12:44 PM
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|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Sep 11 2012, 12:36 PM) H...   Sep 11 2012, 02:24 PM
- - mgrover   i doubt chavez will be with arum for much longer, ...   Sep 11 2012, 06:48 AM
- - daprofessor   does anyone have a problem with chavez getting the...   Sep 11 2012, 01:12 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Sep 11 2012, 02:12 P...   Sep 11 2012, 01:15 PM
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|- - Hotsauce   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Sep 11 2012, 01:12 P...   Sep 11 2012, 03:36 PM
- - checkleft   I'm sure Martinez is happy with the numbers. I...   Sep 11 2012, 03:59 PM
- - Cshel86   Alright guys, looks like we talked this one up... ...   Sep 12 2012, 12:28 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Sep 12 2012, 12:28 PM) A...   Sep 12 2012, 02:25 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Sep 12 2012, 03:25 PM)...   Sep 12 2012, 02:57 PM
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|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (checkleft @ Sep 12 2012, 03:29 PM)...   Sep 12 2012, 03:00 PM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Sep 11 2012, 02:15 P...   Sep 12 2012, 09:20 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Sep 12 2012, 09:20 PM) I...   Oct 9 2012, 05:00 PM
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|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (checkleft @ Oct 9 2012, 05:55 PM) ...   Oct 9 2012, 06:37 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Oct 9 2012, 06:37 PM...   Oct 9 2012, 07:17 PM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Oct 9 2012, 06:00 PM...   Oct 9 2012, 07:26 PM


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