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Jack 1000
post Sep 8 2012, 03:04 PM
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For all on-going and post-fight reactions to tonight's double world title bill. Keep it all in this thread.

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post Sep 9 2012, 06:59 PM
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ward fought brilliantly. he took chads best weapon (his jab) away very early and forced him into exchanges and situations where he always got the better of dawson. he did things to constantly make him think and react so that dawson would always remain a step behind. even in close quarters, he'd push and pull and turn and bump and it seemed to frustrate dawson. nothing worked for him. when he started to land that counter hook on dawson...ward took it away. dawson would land good shots and get confident when ward would go to the ropes. virgil pointed out to ward...and he made the adjustment. he stuck to what worked and avoided what didn't. very smart fighter who can execute a game plan.

on the issue of weight...he seemed to be hurt by punches he would take in the past. knowing the ills of fighting at a weight class that requires u to drain/dehydrate to make weight....it was definitely an issue. this was a situation where someone on dawson's team should have spoke up and protected him from himself. he spoke so confidently prior to the fight and refused to use it as an excuse afterwards. i guess hindsight is 20/20 but i'm willing to bet he will not go back down to 168.

as for the diego corrales situation with floyd....i was told that diego had to withdraw blood from his own body to make weight...and they pumped it back into him after the weigh in. ppl do crazy shit and are advised by "experts" who don't know shit about boxing. if my memory serves me correctly, his s&c coach was alex ariza for that fight. virgil hunter called it...these guys are great at putting weight on...but taking it off is a different story.
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- Jack 1000   HBO@9:45(ET)/6:45(PT) Molina/Demarco & Ward/Dawson   Sep 8 2012, 03:04 PM
- - Cshel86   Prediction: DeMarco/Molina: All out war...and it...   Sep 8 2012, 08:17 PM
- - Plah   Ward by UD 8-4 or possibly 7-5. Too versatile for ...   Sep 8 2012, 08:37 PM
- - BoxingStill#1   Checkin in.... I forgot to load my sig. 357... da...   Sep 8 2012, 09:19 PM
- - Cshel86   LMAO at the stoppage!   Sep 8 2012, 09:22 PM
|- - BoxingStill#1   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Sep 8 2012, 10:22 PM) LM...   Sep 8 2012, 09:39 PM
- - Franchize   I want to yell at the ref but Molina was a dick fo...   Sep 8 2012, 09:29 PM
- - E.C.LEGEND   If Dawson wins, should he stay at Super Middle Wei...   Sep 8 2012, 09:34 PM
|- - BigFightFan   QUOTE (E.C.LEGEND @ Sep 8 2012, 10:34 PM)...   Sep 8 2012, 09:37 PM
- - Cshel86   Dammit man! I know Mrchitown is about to stake...   Sep 8 2012, 09:38 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Sep 8 2012, 10:38 PM) Da...   Sep 9 2012, 05:23 PM
- - Franchize   This is one of the few fight where I really cant p...   Sep 8 2012, 09:39 PM
- - Franchize   Nick Cannon is the worst lmaoooooooooo I think he...   Sep 8 2012, 09:40 PM
- - Franchize   Is it me or is that ring small as hell? Fightin in...   Sep 8 2012, 09:44 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Franchize @ Sep 8 2012, 10:44 PM) ...   Sep 8 2012, 09:52 PM
- - MaxPayne   Yeah Nick Cannon needed to get slapped. That annou...   Sep 8 2012, 09:49 PM
- - Franchize   What a meetin of the minds in there. I have it eve...   Sep 8 2012, 09:52 PM
- - MaxPayne   What a combination...Ward is something else.   Sep 8 2012, 09:52 PM
- - Franchize   WHOAAAAAA Didnt expect that!   Sep 8 2012, 09:52 PM
- - BoxingStill#1   Right on the button.. beautiful   Sep 8 2012, 09:52 PM
- - BigFightFan   C'mon Dawson you are letting me down   Sep 8 2012, 09:54 PM
- - Cshel86   You cant tell me that the weight isn't an issu...   Sep 8 2012, 09:56 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Sep 8 2012, 10:56 PM) Yo...   Sep 9 2012, 05:32 PM
- - Franchize   Ward clearly won that round but Compubox was WAY o...   Sep 8 2012, 09:56 PM
- - BigFightFan   That cut is bringing out Dawson's mental midge...   Sep 8 2012, 09:57 PM
|- - BoxingStill#1   QUOTE (BigFightFan @ Sep 8 2012, 10:57 PM...   Sep 8 2012, 09:57 PM
- - Franchize   Ward's jab paying dividends surprisingly   Sep 8 2012, 09:59 PM
- - BoxingStill#1   Wards jab dominating... Dawson getting closer   Sep 8 2012, 09:59 PM
- - Franchize   Virgil Hunter= one of the best in the business...   Sep 8 2012, 10:01 PM
- - Cshel86   Let's just hope that Chad doesn't pull som...   Sep 8 2012, 10:02 PM
- - BoxingStill#1   Without being said by ward "i own this divisi...   Sep 8 2012, 10:05 PM
- - Cshel86   So Dawson went down in weight, fought in LA, took ...   Sep 8 2012, 10:05 PM
- - BigFightFan   Ward has done a great job neutralizing chad's ...   Sep 8 2012, 10:10 PM
- - Cshel86   Chad and this Seth Mitchell haircut is making me l...   Sep 8 2012, 10:13 PM
- - Plah   While Dawson is taking a beating, I think it's...   Sep 8 2012, 10:14 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Plah @ Sep 8 2012, 11:14 PM) While...   Sep 8 2012, 10:17 PM
|- - Franchize   QUOTE (Plah @ Sep 8 2012, 11:14 PM) While...   Sep 8 2012, 10:24 PM
- - BoxingStill#1   HE QUIT!!!!!!!!...   Sep 8 2012, 10:20 PM
- - Franchize   NOOOOOOOOOOO dont quit dude! Damn   Sep 8 2012, 10:20 PM
- - BigFightFan   Dawson this is the last time you sale me your bull...   Sep 8 2012, 10:22 PM
- - Cshel86   I've never been a big Dawson fan by any stretc...   Sep 8 2012, 10:23 PM
- - sduck   I figured Ward would break him down but damn, that...   Sep 8 2012, 10:23 PM
- - BigFightFan   Nick cannon just looks out of place   Sep 8 2012, 10:25 PM
- - Hotsauce   SOG the GOAT   Sep 8 2012, 10:28 PM
- - MaxPayne   Next to Floyd Mayweather, Andre Ward is the 2nd be...   Sep 8 2012, 10:28 PM
|- - BoxingStill#1   QUOTE (MaxPayne @ Sep 8 2012, 11:28 PM) N...   Sep 8 2012, 10:29 PM
|- - BigFightFan   QUOTE (MaxPayne @ Sep 8 2012, 11:28 PM) N...   Sep 8 2012, 10:31 PM
- - Franchize   Merchant's scumbag ass trying to bait Dawson i...   Sep 8 2012, 10:30 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Franchize @ Sep 8 2012, 11:30 PM) ...   Sep 8 2012, 10:35 PM
- - Cshel86   Oh God, shut tha fuck Lampley! We know that he...   Sep 8 2012, 10:31 PM
|- - iKeNjiro   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Sep 9 2012, 12:31 PM) Oh...   Sep 8 2012, 10:32 PM
|- - BoxingStill#1   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Sep 8 2012, 11:31 PM) Oh...   Sep 8 2012, 10:39 PM
||- - Cshel86   QUOTE (BoxingStill#1 @ Sep 8 2012, 11:39 ...   Sep 8 2012, 10:44 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Sep 8 2012, 11:31 PM) Oh...   Sep 9 2012, 05:46 PM
- - Musashi100   this fight pretty much sums up chad dawson as a fi...   Sep 8 2012, 10:40 PM
|- - Gambit808   QUOTE (Musashi100 @ Sep 8 2012, 11:40 PM)...   Sep 8 2012, 10:49 PM
- - iKeNjiro   I found it, had to hide my IP Here in Japan a new ...   Sep 8 2012, 10:50 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (iKeNjiro @ Sep 8 2012, 11:50 PM) I...   Sep 8 2012, 10:58 PM
- - The Original MrFactor   Dawson may need to hang 'em up. His speech is ...   Sep 8 2012, 11:05 PM
|- - Franchize   QUOTE (The Original MrFactor @ Sep 9 2012, 12...   Sep 8 2012, 11:22 PM
- - Franchize   I disagree that this fight was a huge loss for Daw...   Sep 8 2012, 11:13 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Franchize @ Sep 9 2012, 12:13 AM) ...   Sep 8 2012, 11:27 PM
|- - MaxPayne   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Sep 9 2012, 12:27 AM) FU...   Sep 9 2012, 02:20 AM
|- - Franchize   QUOTE (MaxPayne @ Sep 9 2012, 03:20 AM) Y...   Sep 9 2012, 09:52 AM
|- - MaxPayne   QUOTE (Franchize @ Sep 9 2012, 09:52 AM) ...   Sep 9 2012, 10:32 AM
- - Hotsauce   nick cannon needs to stick to eating mariah carey ...   Sep 9 2012, 12:20 AM
|- - MaxPayne   QUOTE (Hotsauce @ Sep 9 2012, 01:20 AM) n...   Sep 9 2012, 02:17 AM
|- - Jack 1000   QUOTE (Hotsauce @ Sep 9 2012, 12:20 AM) n...   Sep 9 2012, 03:02 AM
- - checkleft   Idk if the weight was a factor, but just my opinio...   Sep 9 2012, 12:23 AM
- - The Original MrFactor   Nick Cannon twice called Chad Dawson the Lightweig...   Sep 9 2012, 08:37 AM
- - wolterb   Hey, Great Job dawson and ward. they took the pla...   Sep 9 2012, 11:06 AM
- - Cshel86   I just watched the Molina/DeMarco fight, and boy, ...   Sep 9 2012, 12:44 PM
- - neophyte7   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Sep 9 2012, 12:27 AM) FU...   Sep 9 2012, 01:08 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (neophyte7 @ Sep 9 2012, 02:08 PM) ...   Sep 9 2012, 02:10 PM
- - neophyte7   I understand your logic, but Just as in the case o...   Sep 9 2012, 02:57 PM
- - mgrover   Either way Pac fought Cotto at 145lb only 2lb whil...   Sep 9 2012, 04:16 PM
- - The Original MrFactor   The same things I see in the decline of Shane Mosl...   Sep 9 2012, 05:17 PM
- - daprofessor   ward fought brilliantly. he took chads best weapon...   Sep 9 2012, 06:59 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (mgrover @ Sep 9 2012, 05:16 PM) Ei...   Sep 9 2012, 09:58 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (checkleft @ Sep 10 2012, 03:58 AM)...   Sep 10 2012, 03:47 AM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (mgrover @ Sep 10 2012, 04:47 AM) s...   Sep 10 2012, 03:44 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Sep 10 2012, 09:44 P...   Sep 11 2012, 06:43 AM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (mgrover @ Sep 11 2012, 07:43 AM) a...   Sep 11 2012, 12:40 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Sep 11 2012, 01:40 P...   Sep 11 2012, 01:14 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Sep 11 2012, 02:14 PM) I...   Sep 11 2012, 01:19 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Sep 11 2012, 02:19 P...   Sep 11 2012, 01:33 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Sep 11 2012, 02:33 PM) I...   Sep 11 2012, 01:42 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Sep 11 2012, 02:42 P...   Sep 11 2012, 07:10 PM
- - pimpfighterROQ   Hey y'all, just watched the fight from an unkn...   Sep 9 2012, 10:27 PM
- - Plah   Weight was kind of a factor but Dawson was still g...   Sep 9 2012, 10:33 PM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Sep 9 2012, 06:23 PM...   Sep 10 2012, 08:02 AM
|- - Franchize   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Sep 10 2012, 09:02 AM) Y...   Sep 10 2012, 05:23 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Franchize @ Sep 10 2012, 06:23 PM)...   Sep 10 2012, 05:28 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Sep 10 2012, 05:28 PM) ...   Sep 10 2012, 09:38 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Sep 10 2012, 10:38 PM)...   Sep 10 2012, 09:57 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Sep 10 2012, 09:57 PM) I...   Sep 11 2012, 01:08 AM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Sep 10 2012, 10:57 PM) I...   Sep 12 2012, 03:08 PM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Hotsauce @ Sep 9 2012, 01:20 AM) n...   Sep 10 2012, 09:31 AM
- - mrchitown   Ward will seemingly have to wait an eternity for a...   Sep 10 2012, 09:37 PM
- - mrchitown   As always Shels and Professor spittin them facts b...   Sep 12 2012, 06:05 PM
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