Sep 8 2012, 03:04 PM
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For all on-going and post-fight reactions to tonight's double world title bill. Keep it all in this thread.
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Sep 9 2012, 09:58 PM
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Welterweight Group: Members Posts: 1,975 Joined: 18-August 11 From: California Grown Member No.: 13,079 |
Either way Pac fought Cotto at 145lb only 2lb while Ward fights Dawson at a full class beneath and not a word is said. End of the day it was the contracted weight for both so if you give one credit, give the other Not sure about this but I heard a lot of rumors about rehydration clauses in that fight and the dlh fight. That would have been a huge factor going into fight night if the fighters had to maintain a certain weight and weren't allowed to rehydrate fully past a certain point. |
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Sep 10 2012, 03:47 AM
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Junior Middleweight Group: Members Posts: 2,138 Joined: 23-May 11 Member No.: 12,366 |
Not sure about this but I heard a lot of rumors about rehydration clauses in that fight and the dlh fight. That would have been a huge factor going into fight night if the fighters had to maintain a certain weight and weren't allowed to rehydrate fully past a certain point. sure it was a theory of daprofessor but with all due respect there was no real evidence to support this, no fighters ever saying this was in the contract. I still don't understand why DLH chose not to rehydrate more but who knows, someone ask him when they get an interview. But are people telling me golden boy would of bowed down to those wishes and put himself at en even bigger disadvantage just to fight MP who was still not a PPV star? |
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Sep 10 2012, 03:44 PM
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Light Heavyweight Group: Members Posts: 4,182 Joined: 20-May 11 From: killa kali Member No.: 12,336 |
sure it was a theory of daprofessor but with all due respect there was no real evidence to support this, no fighters ever saying this was in the contract. I still don't understand why DLH chose not to rehydrate more but who knows, someone ask him when they get an interview. But are people telling me golden boy would of bowed down to those wishes and put himself at en even bigger disadvantage just to fight MP who was still not a PPV star? again...it was speculation on my part. i remember reading or watching a video of roger mayweather claiming hatton wasn't allowed to gain more than 5lbs. that to me was all the proof i needed. but i doubt they would make demands like this without covering their tracks...hence my 'non-disclosure/stipulation theory'.... i believe they've all signed contracts that will not allow them to speak on it. as for why oscar would do such a thing...maybe it was arrogance? maybe it was because he knew he would be making money off of pac either way so a loss would help boost the pac gravy train. who knows? but think about this...cotto has pretty much said it without saying it...he refuses to fight pacquiao without all the 'weight games' or something like that he has said in interviews. also...i thought margarito was trying to tell us something by trying to hydrate right before he came into the ring with pac. roach made a big deal of it and hbo spun it...i wouldn't doubt the whole thing has been smoke and mirrors. after all...bob arum was part of ray leonards situation where he was able to capture two titles by making lalonde come down in weight to fight him. how is that even possible!? how hard would any of this be to address in a few questions during interviews with the right ppl? i've talked to writers on this subject before and i have yet to see anyone print anything remotely close to this. i think it's worth looking into but it will be dismissed as conspiracy theory. oh well. |
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Jack 1000 HBO@9:45(ET)/6:45(PT) Molina/Demarco & Ward/Dawson Sep 8 2012, 03:04 PM
Cshel86 Prediction:
DeMarco/Molina: All out war...and it... Sep 8 2012, 08:17 PM
Plah Ward by UD 8-4 or possibly 7-5. Too versatile for ... Sep 8 2012, 08:37 PM
BoxingStill#1 Checkin in....
I forgot to load my sig. 357... da... Sep 8 2012, 09:19 PM
Cshel86 LMAO at the stoppage! Sep 8 2012, 09:22 PM
BoxingStill#1 QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Sep 8 2012, 10:22 PM) LM... Sep 8 2012, 09:39 PM
Franchize I want to yell at the ref but Molina was a dick fo... Sep 8 2012, 09:29 PM
E.C.LEGEND If Dawson wins, should he stay at Super Middle Wei... Sep 8 2012, 09:34 PM
BigFightFan QUOTE (E.C.LEGEND @ Sep 8 2012, 10:34 PM)... Sep 8 2012, 09:37 PM
Cshel86 Dammit man! I know Mrchitown is about to stake... Sep 8 2012, 09:38 PM
daprofessor QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Sep 8 2012, 10:38 PM) Da... Sep 9 2012, 05:23 PM
Franchize This is one of the few fight where I really cant p... Sep 8 2012, 09:39 PM
Franchize Nick Cannon is the worst lmaoooooooooo I think he... Sep 8 2012, 09:40 PM
Franchize Is it me or is that ring small as hell? Fightin in... Sep 8 2012, 09:44 PM
Cshel86 QUOTE (Franchize @ Sep 8 2012, 10:44 PM) ... Sep 8 2012, 09:52 PM
MaxPayne Yeah Nick Cannon needed to get slapped. That annou... Sep 8 2012, 09:49 PM
Franchize What a meetin of the minds in there. I have it eve... Sep 8 2012, 09:52 PM
MaxPayne What a combination...Ward is something else. Sep 8 2012, 09:52 PM
Franchize WHOAAAAAA Didnt expect that! Sep 8 2012, 09:52 PM
BoxingStill#1 Right on the button.. beautiful Sep 8 2012, 09:52 PM
BigFightFan C'mon Dawson you are letting me down Sep 8 2012, 09:54 PM
Cshel86 You cant tell me that the weight isn't an issu... Sep 8 2012, 09:56 PM
daprofessor QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Sep 8 2012, 10:56 PM) Yo... Sep 9 2012, 05:32 PM
Franchize Ward clearly won that round but Compubox was WAY o... Sep 8 2012, 09:56 PM
BigFightFan That cut is bringing out Dawson's mental midge... Sep 8 2012, 09:57 PM
BoxingStill#1 QUOTE (BigFightFan @ Sep 8 2012, 10:57 PM... Sep 8 2012, 09:57 PM
Franchize Ward's jab paying dividends surprisingly Sep 8 2012, 09:59 PM
BoxingStill#1 Wards jab dominating...
Dawson getting closer Sep 8 2012, 09:59 PM
Franchize Virgil Hunter= one of the best in the business... Sep 8 2012, 10:01 PM
Cshel86 Let's just hope that Chad doesn't pull som... Sep 8 2012, 10:02 PM
BoxingStill#1 Without being said by ward "i own this divisi... Sep 8 2012, 10:05 PM
Cshel86 So Dawson went down in weight, fought in LA, took ... Sep 8 2012, 10:05 PM
BigFightFan Ward has done a great job neutralizing chad's ... Sep 8 2012, 10:10 PM
Cshel86 Chad and this Seth Mitchell haircut is making me l... Sep 8 2012, 10:13 PM
Plah While Dawson is taking a beating, I think it's... Sep 8 2012, 10:14 PM
Cshel86 QUOTE (Plah @ Sep 8 2012, 11:14 PM) While... Sep 8 2012, 10:17 PM
Franchize QUOTE (Plah @ Sep 8 2012, 11:14 PM) While... Sep 8 2012, 10:24 PM
BoxingStill#1 HE QUIT!!!!!!!!... Sep 8 2012, 10:20 PM
Franchize NOOOOOOOOOOO dont quit dude! Damn Sep 8 2012, 10:20 PM
BigFightFan Dawson this is the last time you sale me your bull... Sep 8 2012, 10:22 PM
Cshel86 I've never been a big Dawson fan by any stretc... Sep 8 2012, 10:23 PM
sduck I figured Ward would break him down but damn, that... Sep 8 2012, 10:23 PM
BigFightFan Nick cannon just looks out of place Sep 8 2012, 10:25 PM
Hotsauce SOG the GOAT Sep 8 2012, 10:28 PM
MaxPayne Next to Floyd Mayweather, Andre Ward is the 2nd be... Sep 8 2012, 10:28 PM
BoxingStill#1 QUOTE (MaxPayne @ Sep 8 2012, 11:28 PM) N... Sep 8 2012, 10:29 PM
BigFightFan QUOTE (MaxPayne @ Sep 8 2012, 11:28 PM) N... Sep 8 2012, 10:31 PM
Franchize Merchant's scumbag ass trying to bait Dawson i... Sep 8 2012, 10:30 PM
Cshel86 QUOTE (Franchize @ Sep 8 2012, 11:30 PM) ... Sep 8 2012, 10:35 PM
Cshel86 Oh God, shut tha fuck Lampley! We know that he... Sep 8 2012, 10:31 PM
iKeNjiro QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Sep 9 2012, 12:31 PM) Oh... Sep 8 2012, 10:32 PM
BoxingStill#1 QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Sep 8 2012, 11:31 PM) Oh... Sep 8 2012, 10:39 PM

Cshel86 QUOTE (BoxingStill#1 @ Sep 8 2012, 11:39 ... Sep 8 2012, 10:44 PM
daprofessor QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Sep 8 2012, 11:31 PM) Oh... Sep 9 2012, 05:46 PM
Musashi100 this fight pretty much sums up chad dawson as a fi... Sep 8 2012, 10:40 PM
Gambit808 QUOTE (Musashi100 @ Sep 8 2012, 11:40 PM)... Sep 8 2012, 10:49 PM
iKeNjiro I found it, had to hide my IP
Here in Japan a new ... Sep 8 2012, 10:50 PM
Cshel86 QUOTE (iKeNjiro @ Sep 8 2012, 11:50 PM) I... Sep 8 2012, 10:58 PM
The Original MrFactor Dawson may need to hang 'em up. His speech is ... Sep 8 2012, 11:05 PM
Franchize QUOTE (The Original MrFactor @ Sep 9 2012, 12... Sep 8 2012, 11:22 PM
Franchize I disagree that this fight was a huge loss for Daw... Sep 8 2012, 11:13 PM
Cshel86 QUOTE (Franchize @ Sep 9 2012, 12:13 AM) ... Sep 8 2012, 11:27 PM
MaxPayne QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Sep 9 2012, 12:27 AM) FU... Sep 9 2012, 02:20 AM
Franchize QUOTE (MaxPayne @ Sep 9 2012, 03:20 AM) Y... Sep 9 2012, 09:52 AM
MaxPayne QUOTE (Franchize @ Sep 9 2012, 09:52 AM) ... Sep 9 2012, 10:32 AM
Hotsauce nick cannon needs to stick to eating mariah carey ... Sep 9 2012, 12:20 AM
MaxPayne QUOTE (Hotsauce @ Sep 9 2012, 01:20 AM) n... Sep 9 2012, 02:17 AM
Jack 1000 QUOTE (Hotsauce @ Sep 9 2012, 12:20 AM) n... Sep 9 2012, 03:02 AM
checkleft Idk if the weight was a factor, but just my opinio... Sep 9 2012, 12:23 AM
The Original MrFactor Nick Cannon twice called Chad Dawson the Lightweig... Sep 9 2012, 08:37 AM
wolterb Hey, Great Job dawson and ward.
they took the pla... Sep 9 2012, 11:06 AM
Cshel86 I just watched the Molina/DeMarco fight, and boy, ... Sep 9 2012, 12:44 PM
neophyte7 QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Sep 9 2012, 12:27 AM) FU... Sep 9 2012, 01:08 PM
Cshel86 QUOTE (neophyte7 @ Sep 9 2012, 02:08 PM) ... Sep 9 2012, 02:10 PM
neophyte7 I understand your logic, but Just as in the case o... Sep 9 2012, 02:57 PM
mgrover Either way Pac fought Cotto at 145lb only 2lb whil... Sep 9 2012, 04:16 PM
The Original MrFactor The same things I see in the decline of Shane Mosl... Sep 9 2012, 05:17 PM
daprofessor ward fought brilliantly. he took chads best weapon... Sep 9 2012, 06:59 PM
mgrover QUOTE (daprofessor @ Sep 10 2012, 09:44 P... Sep 11 2012, 06:43 AM
daprofessor QUOTE (mgrover @ Sep 11 2012, 07:43 AM) a... Sep 11 2012, 12:40 PM
Cshel86 QUOTE (daprofessor @ Sep 11 2012, 01:40 P... Sep 11 2012, 01:14 PM
daprofessor QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Sep 11 2012, 02:14 PM) I... Sep 11 2012, 01:19 PM
Cshel86 QUOTE (daprofessor @ Sep 11 2012, 02:19 P... Sep 11 2012, 01:33 PM
daprofessor QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Sep 11 2012, 02:33 PM) I... Sep 11 2012, 01:42 PM
Cshel86 QUOTE (daprofessor @ Sep 11 2012, 02:42 P... Sep 11 2012, 07:10 PM
pimpfighterROQ Hey y'all, just watched the fight from an unkn... Sep 9 2012, 10:27 PM
Plah Weight was kind of a factor but Dawson was still g... Sep 9 2012, 10:33 PM
Cshel86 QUOTE (daprofessor @ Sep 9 2012, 06:23 PM... Sep 10 2012, 08:02 AM
Franchize QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Sep 10 2012, 09:02 AM) Y... Sep 10 2012, 05:23 PM
Cshel86 QUOTE (Franchize @ Sep 10 2012, 06:23 PM)... Sep 10 2012, 05:28 PM
mrchitown QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Sep 10 2012, 05:28 PM)
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Cshel86 QUOTE (mrchitown @ Sep 10 2012, 10:38 PM)... Sep 10 2012, 09:57 PM
mrchitown QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Sep 10 2012, 09:57 PM) I... Sep 11 2012, 01:08 AM
daprofessor QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Sep 10 2012, 10:57 PM) I... Sep 12 2012, 03:08 PM
Cshel86 QUOTE (Hotsauce @ Sep 9 2012, 01:20 AM) n... Sep 10 2012, 09:31 AM
mrchitown Ward will seemingly have to wait an eternity for a... Sep 10 2012, 09:37 PM
mrchitown As always Shels and Professor spittin them facts b... Sep 12 2012, 06:05 PM![]() ![]() |
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