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[Gambit808]

I figured Broner vs. Guerrero at 147lbs. Was a bit unrealistic at this point though he (Broner) might claim otherwise. Broner even hinted at a clash with Demarco via twitter hoping that he would win the fight with Molina Jr., and now that ended quick, Dela Hoya threw out his own hint posting on his account "Broner vs. Demarco"

Broner SHOULD murder this dude, but I like the match. Would have loved the Guerrero fight more but looks like we'll have 2 wait for that 1.

I guess now Guerrero might go back to calling out Mayweather for the umf-teenth time.

This post has been edited by Gambit808: Sep 9 2012, 06:39 PM

[mrchitown]

Only thing I can give Guerrero is that he's game. But he's delusional, something Tarver was not when he called out RJJ. I like Guerrero but I've never really been sold on him as the type of fighter he views himself as. Tarver was confident and believed in himself when he called out and went up against RJJ. To me Guerrero is an opportunist, I feel bad for his wife and he has a tremendous story but my auntie got cancer, should I call out Floyd lol.

My issue with him is he was talking all this big shit until he had that patch of bad luck and his wife got ill, not to be insensitive but everybody got a story. It's someone boxing right now with a better "story" then his, should he get a big fight?He should choose another route to do his bidding for a big fight because I get the feeling it's falling on deaf ears. His power is crap at 147 and I don't think he'd last against a mid tier WW

In the end it's all subjective but he doesn't deserve a big fight at all. Not with Floyd, Cotto, Manny, nobody...not until he starts beating decent opposition.

[daprofessor]

Only thing I can give Guerrero is that he's game. But he's delusional, something Tarver was not when he called out RJJ. I like Guerrero but I've never really been sold on him as the type of fighter he views himself as. Tarver was confident and believed in himself when he called out and went up against RJJ. To me Guerrero is an opportunist, I feel bad for his wife and he has a tremendous story but my auntie got cancer, should I call out Floyd lol.

My issue with him is he was talking all this big shit until he had that patch of bad luck and his wife got ill, not to be insensitive but everybody got a story. It's someone boxing right now with a better "story" then his, should he get a big fight?He should choose another route to do his bidding for a big fight because I get the feeling it's falling on deaf ears. His power is crap at 147 and I don't think he'd last against a mid tier WW

In the end it's all subjective but he doesn't deserve a big fight at all. Not with Floyd, Cotto, Manny, nobody...not until he starts beating decent opposition.

tarver was more than delusional according to many at the time. i can recall merchant and several others sounding very cynical in response to him calling roy out. no one gave him a chance or thought he could win.

as for guerrero...he really didn't talk big before his wife was sick. he didn't call anyone out before that i can recall. i remember hearing about him sparring with pac and holding his own. i think the injury, combined with his wife's illness made him realize it's now or never so that's when he started trying to talk his way into the fight with floyd. i don't necessarily believe he's using his wife's story to get ahead either. that's the network that's selling that story to create ratings.

[mrchitown]

tarver was more than delusional according to many at the time. i can recall merchant and several others sounding very cynical in response to him calling roy out. no one gave him a chance or thought he could win.

as for guerrero...he really didn't talk big before his wife was sick. he didn't call anyone out before that i can recall. i remember hearing about him sparring with pac and holding his own. i think the injury, combined with his wife's illness made him realize it's now or never so that's when he started trying to talk his way into the fight with floyd. i don't necessarily believe he's using his wife's story to get ahead either. that's the network that's selling that story to create ratings.

I think Merchant and the gang thought this due to this aura of invincibility that was around Roy at the time, but looking back on it, the writing was on the wall for him to get beat. His run at 175 was never that impressive to me

And that's what I have a problem with, Guerrero is a solid fighter. I like watching him fight, just not at 147. I think the networks are the reason these fighters act the way they do, every fighters goal is to get on TV, then onto ESPN or one of those main event cards, then onto HBO or Showtime and the end goal is PPV. The problem is the 2 big networks pic and choose who they air and who they want to puush and it's usually some "sensational" story behind them

Fighters like Guerrero should get dates due to skill

[daprofessor]

I think Merchant and the gang thought this due to this aura of invincibility that was around Roy at the time, but looking back on it, the writing was on the wall for him to get beat. His run at 175 was never that impressive to me

And that's what I have a problem with, Guerrero is a solid fighter. I like watching him fight, just not at 147. I think the networks are the reason these fighters act the way they do, every fighters goal is to get on TV, then onto ESPN or one of those main event cards, then onto HBO or Showtime and the end goal is PPV. The problem is the 2 big networks pic and choose who they air and who they want to puush and it's usually some "sensational" story behind them

Fighters like Guerrero should get dates due to skill

i don't think guerrero is where he is because of his back story. he has skill. he can fight. he's right where he needs to be...a headliner on showtime. like i said before...i think he needs a big win or two to get him in line to face floyd...but i have no problem with him calling out floyd right now.

[mrchitown]

i don't think guerrero is where he is because of his back story. he has skill. he can fight. he's right where he needs to be...a headliner on showtime. like i said before...i think he needs a big win or two to get him in line to face floyd...but i have no problem with him calling out floyd right now.

Definitely not but he was pushed as that headliner in Showtime for his big mouth as in calling out Floyd and his wife's unfortunate situation

If not for that, He'd be on ShoBox instead of Showtime Championship Boxing

[daprofessor]

Definitely not but he was pushed as that headliner in Showtime for his big mouth as in calling out Floyd and his wife's unfortunate situation

If not for that, He'd be on ShoBox instead of Showtime Championship Boxing

agree to disagree on that one.

i think it was a much bigger deal that he jumped 2 weight classes to take on an undefeated contender. it's a rare feat worthy of respect imo.

[mrchitown]

agree to disagree on that one.

i think it was a much bigger deal that he jumped 2 weight classes to take on an undefeated contender. it's a rare feat worthy of respect imo.

I think he'll get Broner before he gets Floyd, and we'll be saying the same thing about his jump up in weight classes and the ass whopping he's going to put on Guerrero

[daprofessor]

I think he'll get Broner before he gets Floyd, and we'll be saying the same thing about his jump up in weight classes and the ass whopping he's going to put on Guerrero

not really when u consider that guerrero fought most of his career at 130. now if he beats a natural 147lb fighter...then yes.

[mrchitown]

not really when u consider that guerrero fought most of his career at 130. now if he beats a natural 147lb fighter...then yes.

When it's all said and done, I think we'll be talking more about Broner then Robert. I like him and he's a hard nosed fighter but Broner just has that "it" factor inside and outside the ring. Guerrero doesn't. Special talent special skill, that's Broner. He does alot of a-hole stuff but that's his choice. It doesn't take away from his ability and he's ahead of Robert in that dept. If they fought I think due to Broner's age and his activity he'd give the ghost fits.

[daprofessor]

When it's all said and done, I think we'll be talking more about Broner then Robert. I like him and he's a hard nosed fighter but Broner just has that "it" factor inside and outside the ring. Guerrero doesn't. Special talent special skill, that's Broner. He does alot of a-hole stuff but that's his choice. It doesn't take away from his ability and he's ahead of Robert in that dept. If they fought I think due to Broner's age and his activity he'd give the ghost fits.

no doubt....broner's skill is undeniable. demarco will be a show case bout for him. guerrero would be a fight.