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Cshel86
post Oct 1 2012, 12:38 PM
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I've been reading around, and hearing this guy say that he will sit down with certain guys (Martinez, Chavez, Alvarez, etc) after he's done with the Trout fight. Im not even sure if Cotto wins that fight, but my point is...why in the hell is this guy taking one hard fight after another, when he's in control of his career?

I'm usually against this, but Miguel should honestly make some of these BIG welterweights move up to fight him. Let's be real, these guys dont have to be do-gooders and make 154 on the head, 150 or 152 is perfectly fine.

I only like when free agents exercise the power to make their own decisions, especially when they're a draw like Cotto. Again, no need for him to take one hard fight after another, when he can make Canelo's punk ass fight somebody of note, who's an able-bodied fighter. Canelo's not a punk, maybe Oscar's the blame for making it seem that way.

Dude gives some of these fighters waaay too much respect, when they still have a bit of work to do. He's getting older, so again, he can chill a bit with these hard fights, and make these young guys actually work for something in the sport.

Half of those mofos just sign on the dotted line of a promotional company, and hope to get weaseled to the top by fighting dead bodies, or incompetent competition (oxymoron).

With Manny's opponent selection being controlled by Bob, and Mayweather being the undecided, money-driven, opportunist that he is...Cotto should put his foot down and run shit, until something changes on both of their ends.

No need to be the nice guy so soon and give these subpar fighters a chance at glory. If you think about it, the older "name" fighters, usually get fed to the young hungry fighters any damn way, especially when the older fighter has lost his edge. So why not stay active, and make your own big fights until you lose your step, and THEN give the young guys a chance?

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post Oct 1 2012, 02:42 PM
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QUOTE (mitukczuk @ Oct 1 2012, 02:01 PM) *
he is not asserting himself as THE man in the sport and always plays second fiddle. BUT I really like his move in fighting Trout. I just hope he didnt bite to much to chew.

Agreed! I dont like his second fiddle approach either. It's like he has the keys to a Lambo, but all he decides to do is gas it up. Drive that shit Cotto! Lol

Getting beat by Austin Trout, would be a bad look at this stage of his career, because he still has some miles left on his career. His legacy is somewhat sealed, though he could take a few more fights to add a feather or two in his hat.

Im not saying that Trout is a nobody, but why risk a loss to a guy who's almost guaranteed to not be a big star afterward? Look at Shane beating Oscar for instance...Shane didn't become this big moneymaker like he should have, and he had the ring appeal to help with that.

Bad management, and his nice guy attitude did little for his career...something that Trout seems to be following. GBP hasn't done all that much for Trout's career up to this point, so Im wondering what they will have for him, in the event that he beats Cotto.

Let's be honest, before this fight was announced, "Cotto" and "Trout" didn't even belong in the same sentence. Lol

QUOTE (checkleft @ Oct 1 2012, 02:19 PM) *
I get what your saying but it seems like cotto just wants to fight top contenders no matter who it is.

As far as Canelo goes I think he might be a punk... He seems to have it in his head that these wins actually mean something and the whole episodes with Archie makes him seem like a Douche

Top contenders sure better be making him the money that he could be making, not saying that he hasn't made enough already. Floyd picked a young contender in Ortiz, but for Cotto to pick Trout?! Trout? C'mon Miguel. Lol

Im just tired of Canelo at this point as well. As much as I've seen this dude fight, not one of "breaking opponent selection" announcements, have had me at the edge of my seat. If anything, I was positioned at the edge of my seat in a meager suicide or self-harm attempt. If an old Mosley fight announcement had me thinking it was a "pick 'em" fight then that says a lot about his opponent selection. Lol

QUOTE (BoxingFan86 @ Oct 1 2012, 02:20 PM) *
I assume he is workin' on his legacy.

Whaddup Box!

I still dont see how a Trout fight would do anything for his legacy (as I mentioned in detail, above). Think about it, Miguel had to fight guys like Yuri Foreman and an old Mayorga, to get in position to be recognized again. They were reaching awfully hard when promoting the Margarito rematch, but that did enough to get him back tot he top, after nearly being wrote off after the Pac loss.

After that, he scored the Big One (Mayweather fight), and absolutely looked his best, even the face of defeat. One would even go as far as saying that Miguel was almost back to his old self. As a matter of fact, we saw a relatively new Miguel that night.

He looked great losing, and kept his spot at the top...just to pick Austin Trout?! Again, Trout isn't a nobody, but he should've been fighting someone else at a higher level of the division, before getting a shot like this. Miguel isn't the top man in the division, but money wise and image wise, he is. If an old Morales could fight a bunch of taxi drivers during his return, land a Maidana fight, look good losing, and be in the driver's seat for his next few fights, then surely Miguel had better options out there.

If Trout just fought an uninterested Rodriguez, he should've been in there with somebody else afterwards, then possibly a Cotto fight. From the looks of it, Rodriguez was the road to Cotto?! See how weird that sounds? Thank Oscar for protecting his little ass puppet (Canelo), now the division is looking awfully weird. Lol
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- Cshel86   Cotto...Too Nice?   Oct 1 2012, 12:38 PM
- - mitukczuk   You got a point, C'. I have always liked Migu...   Oct 1 2012, 01:01 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 1 2012, 12:38 PM) I...   Oct 1 2012, 01:19 PM
- - BoxingFan86   I assume he is workin' on his legacy.   Oct 1 2012, 01:20 PM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (mitukczuk @ Oct 1 2012, 02:01 PM) ...   Oct 1 2012, 02:42 PM
- - daprofessor   sometimes these guys have to challenge themselves ...   Oct 1 2012, 03:05 PM
|- - mrblackmagicj   Honestly, i think Cotto has a lot of confidence co...   Oct 1 2012, 04:07 PM
- - mgrover   i think hes a man who still loves what he does, an...   Oct 1 2012, 05:16 PM
- - Franchize   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 1 2012, 01:38 PM) I...   Oct 1 2012, 06:05 PM
|- - Marcus   QUOTE (Franchize @ Oct 1 2012, 07:05 PM) ...   Oct 1 2012, 06:35 PM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Franchize @ Oct 1 2012, 07:05 PM) ...   Oct 1 2012, 06:54 PM
- - daprofessor   i guess what this all adds up to....with floyd out...   Oct 1 2012, 07:44 PM
|- - Marcus   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Oct 1 2012, 08:44 PM...   Oct 1 2012, 07:47 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Marcus @ Oct 1 2012, 07:47 PM) Pre...   Oct 1 2012, 07:48 PM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Oct 1 2012, 08:44 PM...   Oct 1 2012, 09:07 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 1 2012, 09:07 PM) Yo...   Oct 2 2012, 12:55 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 1 2012, 09:07 PM) Yo...   Oct 1 2012, 10:19 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (checkleft @ Oct 1 2012, 11:19 PM) ...   Oct 1 2012, 10:57 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 1 2012, 10:57 PM) Oh...   Oct 2 2012, 12:56 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Oct 2 2012, 01:56 PM...   Oct 2 2012, 01:35 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (checkleft @ Oct 2 2012, 02:35 PM) ...   Oct 2 2012, 02:47 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Oct 2 2012, 08:47 PM...   Oct 2 2012, 05:02 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (mgrover @ Oct 2 2012, 06:02 PM) th...   Oct 2 2012, 06:30 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Oct 3 2012, 12:30 AM...   Oct 3 2012, 12:30 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (mgrover @ Oct 3 2012, 01:30 PM) tb...   Oct 3 2012, 01:08 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Oct 2 2012, 03:47 PM...   Oct 2 2012, 04:01 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (checkleft @ Oct 2 2012, 05:01 PM) ...   Oct 2 2012, 06:28 PM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Oct 2 2012, 03:47 PM...   Oct 2 2012, 06:26 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 2 2012, 07:26 PM) Re...   Oct 2 2012, 06:32 PM
- - frankypc   Going back to Cotto, today i read in our local new...   Oct 6 2012, 07:33 AM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (frankypc @ Oct 6 2012, 07:33 AM) G...   Oct 8 2012, 05:47 PM
- - neophyte7   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Oct 8 2012, 06:47 PM...   Oct 8 2012, 06:14 PM
- - daprofessor   QUOTE (neophyte7 @ Oct 8 2012, 06:14 PM) ...   Oct 9 2012, 04:20 PM


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