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Jack 1000
post Oct 13 2012, 12:04 PM
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For all the on-going and post-fight reaction to tonight's exciting HBO double-header! Keep everything in this thread!

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post Oct 14 2012, 07:07 AM
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This fight made Donaire real for me. I really expected Nishioka to give him a very hard time with his boxing ability and his chin, but Nonito was too fast and too strong.

I can't see Abner Mares beating Nonito Donaire to be honest. Even Orlando Salido, who I think is a bad, bad man probably can't hang with the speed and the angles that Nonito would bring. Celestino Caballero might have some success with the jab and movement because of his length, but I'm not sure.

In that range of opponents, I believe Gamboa, Rigondeaux and Chris John would be the guys who could conceivably beat Nonito.

Regarding Rios, well, he's basically all but confirmed to be Pacquiao's opponent next April no matter what. Even if he loses to JMM, they'll put together the Rios fight because it's a fight that will do a good number of buys.

I actually look forward to that fight. I feel like Rios will talk a lot of shit and will probably do that stuff where they make fun of Freddie Roach. Robert Garcia also looks like the type to talk some smack, so it'll likely be entertaining.

Of course, Pacquiao will strafe Rios with punches until someone has the sense to throw in the towel and spare us the brutality.
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post Oct 14 2012, 07:26 AM
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QUOTE (MaxPayne @ Oct 14 2012, 07:07 AM) *
This fight made Donaire real for me. I really expected Nishioka to give him a very hard time with his boxing ability and his chin, but Nonito was too fast and too strong.

I can't see Abner Mares beating Nonito Donaire to be honest. Even Orlando Salido, who I think is a bad, bad man probably can't hang with the speed and the angles that Nonito would bring. Celestino Caballero might have some success with the jab and movement because of his length, but I'm not sure.

In that range of opponents, I believe Gamboa, Rigondeaux and Chris John would be the guys who could conceivably beat Nonito.

Regarding Rios, well, he's basically all but confirmed to be Pacquiao's opponent next April no matter what. Even if he loses to JMM, they'll put together the Rios fight because it's a fight that will do a good number of buys.

I actually look forward to that fight. I feel like Rios will talk a lot of shit and will probably do that stuff where they make fun of Freddie Roach. Robert Garcia also looks like the type to talk some smack, so it'll likely be entertaining.

Of course, Pacquiao will strafe Rios with punches until someone has the sense to throw in the towel and spare us the brutality.


I agree. Mke and Brandon were earth-shatteringly amazing in this fight. But taking shots from Alverado in a life and death brawl and taking shots from Manny Pacquiao (or even Juan Marquez) are two different things. The only outside shot of a competitive fight for Brandon with the winner, and it's maybe a 4-1 shot is if Manny or Juan has gotten old overnight. Rios I think would have a slightly better chance against Marquez than against Manny. It's hard to believe that this is the same Brandon Rios who got his ass kicked by the opinion of all but two judges against Richard Abril!

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- Jack 1000   HBO@10PM(ET)/7PM(PT):Rios/Alverado-Donaire/Nishioka-SPOILERS   Oct 13 2012, 12:04 PM
- - Cshel86   Photos courtesy of BoxingScene   Oct 13 2012, 01:59 PM
- - Cshel86   Donaire/Nishioka: This will be another fight where...   Oct 13 2012, 02:16 PM
- - mgrover   wow Rios doesn't look like skelator for once   Oct 13 2012, 05:49 PM
- - Cshel86   Let's get down with the get-down!!...   Oct 13 2012, 09:01 PM
- - Cshel86   Damn...3 California judges?! California judges...   Oct 13 2012, 09:15 PM
- - Cshel86   Mike looks a bit uncomfortable...or maybe he's...   Oct 13 2012, 09:19 PM
- - Cshel86   Man these rounds are hard to score. Im just hoping...   Oct 13 2012, 09:24 PM
- - Cshel86   Man Rios cant keep getting hit with these lefts fr...   Oct 13 2012, 09:28 PM
- - BigFightFan   These guys both have good chins, it will come down...   Oct 13 2012, 09:28 PM
- - Cheesey1   Alvarado's D is disappointing. He's lettin...   Oct 13 2012, 09:30 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Oct 13 2012, 10:30 PM) ...   Oct 13 2012, 09:32 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 13 2012, 10:32 PM) H...   Oct 13 2012, 09:40 PM
- - Cshel86   Mike took the 5th...hands down! Hope Mike...   Oct 13 2012, 09:35 PM
- - Cshel86   Damn Mike got hurt by a Rios right hand in the 6th...   Oct 13 2012, 09:40 PM
- - Cheesey1   Mike Alvarado played himself big time. Congrats t...   Oct 13 2012, 09:43 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Oct 13 2012, 10:43 PM) ...   Oct 13 2012, 09:44 PM
- - Cshel86   WHAT THA FUUUUUUCK???? Had no idea Rios was gonna ...   Oct 13 2012, 09:43 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 13 2012, 10:43 PM) W...   Oct 13 2012, 09:44 PM
- - sduck   damn good fight   Oct 13 2012, 09:44 PM
- - Plah   Very entertaining fight overall. Nice stoppage.   Oct 13 2012, 09:44 PM
- - mgrover   am here finally almost slept through the whole thi...   Oct 13 2012, 09:48 PM
- - BigFightFan   Rios is just a pressure fighter with a good chin, ...   Oct 13 2012, 09:49 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (BigFightFan @ Oct 13 2012, 10:49 P...   Oct 13 2012, 09:50 PM
|- - Genius   QUOTE (BigFightFan @ Oct 13 2012, 09:49 P...   Oct 13 2012, 09:50 PM
||- - BigFightFan   QUOTE (Genius @ Oct 13 2012, 10:50 PM) Wi...   Oct 13 2012, 10:08 PM
|- - sduck   QUOTE (BigFightFan @ Oct 13 2012, 10:49 P...   Oct 13 2012, 09:55 PM
|- - Gambit808   QUOTE (BigFightFan @ Oct 13 2012, 10:49 P...   Oct 13 2012, 09:56 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Gambit808 @ Oct 13 2012, 10:56 PM)...   Oct 13 2012, 10:09 PM
- - Cshel86   I think I just hate Pat Russell, but who can blame...   Oct 13 2012, 09:52 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 13 2012, 10:52 PM) I...   Oct 13 2012, 09:56 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Oct 13 2012, 10:56 PM) ...   Oct 13 2012, 10:01 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 13 2012, 11:01 PM) S...   Oct 13 2012, 10:11 PM
- - Cshel86   Nishioka is a slick little bastard...he better sho...   Oct 13 2012, 10:04 PM
- - Cshel86   Just as I was hoping that Niskioka wouldn't do...   Oct 13 2012, 10:11 PM
- - mgrover   lol at this rate am not going to have anything to ...   Oct 13 2012, 10:15 PM
- - Cshel86   Donaire sucks...he appears to be too good for his ...   Oct 13 2012, 10:19 PM
- - sduck   Donaire is just better than this guy   Oct 13 2012, 10:22 PM
- - Cheesey1   I actually like Donaire, I just don't think he...   Oct 13 2012, 10:25 PM
- - mgrover   maybe i should of just stayed in bed   Oct 13 2012, 10:31 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (mgrover @ Oct 13 2012, 11:31 PM) m...   Oct 13 2012, 10:32 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Oct 14 2012, 04:32 AM) ...   Oct 13 2012, 10:34 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (mgrover @ Oct 13 2012, 11:34 PM) t...   Oct 13 2012, 10:37 PM
- - Cshel86   Donaire sucks. Nobody that he's fought has had...   Oct 13 2012, 10:32 PM
- - Genius   Easy work, now fight Rigo.   Oct 13 2012, 10:36 PM
- - sduck   Welp and that's that   Oct 13 2012, 10:37 PM
- - mgrover   i know people said that if he stops him he may get...   Oct 13 2012, 10:39 PM
- - BigFightFan   Pussy ass cornermen, give your guy a chance. That ...   Oct 13 2012, 10:39 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (BigFightFan @ Oct 13 2012, 11:39 P...   Oct 13 2012, 10:41 PM
- - mgrover   am out theres no point of a video to this. am off ...   Oct 13 2012, 10:42 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (mgrover @ Oct 13 2012, 11:42 PM) a...   Oct 13 2012, 10:50 PM
- - Plah   What a motherfucking lame excuse!!!...   Oct 13 2012, 10:43 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Plah @ Oct 13 2012, 11:43 PM) What...   Oct 13 2012, 10:51 PM
- - Gambit808   Don't like the way either fight ended prematur...   Oct 13 2012, 10:49 PM
- - Cshel86   Fuck Pat Russell! Cant stand that incompetent ...   Oct 13 2012, 10:52 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 13 2012, 11:52 PM) F...   Oct 13 2012, 10:56 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Oct 13 2012, 11:56 PM) ...   Oct 13 2012, 10:57 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 13 2012, 11:57 PM) I...   Oct 13 2012, 11:01 PM
- - fightscoreollector   How did you all have the Donaire fight at the time...   Oct 13 2012, 11:54 PM
- - Jack 1000   Rios-Alverado! All-time classic little war...   Oct 14 2012, 02:37 AM
- - mgrover   Rios already calling out Pac? Smart move? Probably...   Oct 14 2012, 05:11 AM
- - Jack 1000   Great article on THE FIGHT!!!! ht...   Oct 14 2012, 05:33 AM
- - MaxPayne   This fight made Donaire real for me. I really expe...   Oct 14 2012, 07:07 AM
|- - Jack 1000   QUOTE (MaxPayne @ Oct 14 2012, 07:07 AM) ...   Oct 14 2012, 07:26 AM
- - Jack 1000   Here's a link to "World War III" My ...   Oct 14 2012, 07:19 AM
|- - Jack 1000   QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Oct 14 2012, 07:19 AM)...   Oct 14 2012, 07:32 AM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Oct 14 2012, 01:19 PM)...   Oct 14 2012, 07:36 AM
- - Franchize   Great slug fest! I had Alvarado winning slight...   Oct 14 2012, 09:22 AM
- - Cshel86   I think Alvarado should've studied that Abril ...   Oct 14 2012, 01:22 PM
|- - Franchize   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 14 2012, 02:22 PM) I...   Oct 14 2012, 04:28 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 14 2012, 02:22 PM) I...   Oct 14 2012, 01:52 PM
- - Jack 1000   I wish we could have head Lamps and Larry last nig...   Oct 14 2012, 04:34 PM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (checkleft @ Oct 14 2012, 02:52 PM)...   Oct 14 2012, 05:05 PM
|- - Franchize   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 14 2012, 06:05 PM) A...   Oct 14 2012, 07:43 PM
- - daprofessor   i guess i'm alone on the rios/alvarado fight. ...   Oct 14 2012, 06:48 PM
- - daprofessor   oh yeah...nishioka turned out to be better than i ...   Oct 14 2012, 06:57 PM
- - The Original MrFactor   Is Donaire beating good fighters and making them l...   Oct 14 2012, 09:12 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Oct 14 2012, 06:48 P...   Oct 14 2012, 10:50 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (checkleft @ Oct 14 2012, 10:50 PM)...   Oct 15 2012, 12:43 PM
- - Jack 1000   Some good points, I think some may be reluctant t...   Oct 14 2012, 11:34 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Oct 14 2012, 11:34 PM)...   Oct 15 2012, 12:45 PM
- - Jack 1000   I am confident in saying this: The six and a half...   Oct 15 2012, 05:46 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Oct 15 2012, 05:46 PM)...   Oct 15 2012, 06:01 PM
- - Cshel86   I love how the commentators were REALLY trying to ...   Oct 15 2012, 08:53 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 15 2012, 08:53 PM) I...   Oct 16 2012, 01:19 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Oct 16 2012, 02:19 P...   Oct 16 2012, 02:10 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 16 2012, 03:10 PM) I...   Oct 16 2012, 02:18 PM
|- - Jack 1000   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Oct 16 2012, 02:18 P...   Oct 16 2012, 03:27 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Oct 16 2012, 04:27 PM)...   Oct 16 2012, 03:57 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Oct 16 2012, 04:57 P...   Oct 16 2012, 05:19 PM
- - flazi   alvarado did not listen to his corner. they told ...   Oct 16 2012, 02:11 PM
- - BoxingEinstein   Rios will be a force in 140 division. He can beat ...   Oct 16 2012, 03:13 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (BoxingEinstein @ Oct 16 2012, 04:1...   Oct 16 2012, 04:01 PM
|- - BoxingEinstein   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Oct 16 2012, 05:01 P...   Oct 16 2012, 06:59 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (BoxingEinstein @ Oct 16 2012, 07:5...   Oct 16 2012, 07:50 PM
- - Jack 1000   Good post-fight article here: https://www.boxingi...   Oct 16 2012, 06:12 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Oct 16 2012, 07:12 PM)...   Oct 16 2012, 06:19 PM
||- - Cshel86   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Oct 16 2012, 07:19 P...   Oct 16 2012, 07:53 PM
|- - BoxingEinstein   QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Oct 16 2012, 07:12 PM)...   Oct 16 2012, 06:54 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (BoxingEinstein @ Oct 16 2012, 06:5...   Oct 16 2012, 08:23 PM
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