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Jack 1000
post Oct 13 2012, 12:04 PM
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For all the on-going and post-fight reaction to tonight's exciting HBO double-header! Keep everything in this thread!

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post Oct 14 2012, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE (checkleft @ Oct 14 2012, 02:52 PM) *
The way I see it this was a win win for arum. If rios lost he could have had a rematch, and if he won he looks good for pac. Either way I think if he fights pac it will be reminiscent of margarito pac. If he fights marquez I think it will resembles dias marquez.

Nishioka was everything I thought he would be. He was off for a year and hes an old champion that just came for a paycheck. He didn't fight until he was forced to and then got baited into a simple right hand counter. The one thing that surprised me was how much bigger donaire looked. If he isn't gonna fight the top prime fighters in the division them he should probably move up. But even if he does he will probably be like "Gamboa needs to get me excited, ill get bored" and proceed to take easier fights even though he insists he wants the best.

End note, what's up w/ hbo interrogating the ref for a GOOD stoppage? Alvarado was past ready to go, was not defending well and eating monster shots. That ref saved alvarado from some swelling of the brain

And how about dlh tweeting something to extent of "I dare rios to fight matthysse"

Arum always wins. The only loses I remember him taking, is Oscar and Floyd leaving him. Also, the results of that first Salido/Lopez fight (where Lopez was supposed to dust Salido), as well as the rematch where cards were fixed, but Lopez got his clock cleaned.

I dont even want to talk anymore about that the Donaire fight, and his recent hesitant opponents. The only one who made a gallant effort, was Vasquez Jr. I cant stand Donaire, and I dont feel sorry for his jacked up opponent selection, thanks to Arum.

If nobody here remembers, Nonito got the big nuts last year and tried to jump ship from TR. His ass could've been on the shelf, but Bob is being nice and giving him opponents who are afraid to fight back. That was sarcasm of course, because Donaire's opponents are making him look bad. Nice one Bob, nice one. Suck it up Nonito.

You already know how I feel about Pat Russell, and maybe JBO was interrogating him because of the vivid memories of him messing up the Dawson/Hopkins shenanigans last October. As for Oscar, maybe he's doing his best to reach out to Bob to make business moves. Think about it, Matthysse isn't a big ticket seller yet, so Im sure GBP wouldn't ind being on the lesser end of negotiations with Bob for a Rios fight.

QUOTE (Franchize @ Oct 14 2012, 05:28 PM) *
lmao he was shoulder rollin INTO the punches. Rios isnt very skilled, but he certainly has power. Therefore, I dot know what the fuck was going onin Alvarado's camp that made them decide to ue their biggest exposure fight to experiment with being a real boxer lol It was like watching James Toney footage in rewind while the fighter is fighting in fast forward. He put up a spirited effort but I think the fight was the battle of the bad trainers lol Alvarado's trainer was telling him "throw the right hand and step around." I was like, how about he get his fucking hands up and dodge a punch first lmao

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Yep, bad idea to experiment in this fight...especially with a guy who doesn't care about being behind on the cards. That shoulder roll stunk, and that big ass block head of Alvarado's was getting popped with those lefts, like it was nobody's business. His corner sounded like John Scully in the Dawson fight, and Tony Morgan in Berto's corner for the Ortiz fight. Too many voices, pure panic, and underlying frustration after some rounds.

If anything, he should've been stepping to Brandon's left to take some sting off of that left hand that he fell in love with getting hit with. Dude was a sucker that left hand. Well damn, Mike's trainer did say "throw the right and step around"...which meant that Mike's punch would've land on Rios's LEFT side, then he was supposed to step around to Rio's LEFT. Ohhhhh...so the motherfucker wasn't listening then. Okay cool, I get it now. LOL.

I was looking for you on here last night to talk about his trainer, though I dont quite know if he is a hometown trainer. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Oct 14 2012, 05:34 PM) *
I wish we could have head Lamps and Larry last night instead of Bob Papa and Max Kellerman. Jim would have created the kind of amazing commentary that this fight deserves. And Larry would care because it was a classic!

I agree Jack! I cant stand Jim and Larry, but Papa and his lack of enthusiasm (until a knockdown happens) and his untrained eyes, just blows it every time. I got this weird pain in my side when I heard his voice at the beginning of the program.
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QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 14 2012, 06:05 PM) *
Arum always wins. The only loses I remember him taking, is Oscar and Floyd leaving him. Also, the results of that first Salido/Lopez fight (where Lopez was supposed to dust Salido), as well as the rematch where cards were fixed, but Lopez got his clock cleaned.

I dont even want to talk anymore about that the Donaire fight, and his recent hesitant opponents. The only one who made a gallant effort, was Vasquez Jr. I cant stand Donaire, and I dont feel sorry for his jacked up opponent selection, thanks to Arum.

If nobody here remembers, Nonito got the big nuts last year and tried to jump ship from TR. His ass could've been on the shelf, but Bob is being nice and giving him opponents who are afraid to fight back. That was sarcasm of course, because Donaire's opponents are making him look bad. Nice one Bob, nice one. Suck it up Nonito.

You already know how I feel about Pat Russell, and maybe JBO was interrogating him because of the vivid memories of him messing up the Dawson/Hopkins shenanigans last October. As for Oscar, maybe he's doing his best to reach out to Bob to make business moves. Think about it, Matthysse isn't a big ticket seller yet, so Im sure GBP wouldn't ind being on the lesser end of negotiations with Bob for a Rios fight.


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Yep, bad idea to experiment in this fight...especially with a guy who doesn't care about being behind on the cards. That shoulder roll stunk, and that big ass block head of Alvarado's was getting popped with those lefts, like it was nobody's business. His corner sounded like John Scully in the Dawson fight, and Tony Morgan in Berto's corner for the Ortiz fight. Too many voices, pure panic, and underlying frustration after some rounds.

If anything, he should've been stepping to Brandon's left to take some sting off of that left hand that he fell in love with getting hit with. Dude was a sucker that left hand. Well damn, Mike's trainer did say "throw the right and step around"...which meant that Mike's punch would've land on Rios's LEFT side, then he was supposed to step around to Rio's LEFT. Ohhhhh...so the motherfucker wasn't listening then. Okay cool, I get it now. LOL.

I was looking for you on here last night to talk about his trainer, though I dont quite know if he is a hometown trainer. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


I agree Jack! I cant stand Jim and Larry, but Papa and his lack of enthusiasm (until a knockdown happens) and his untrained eyes, just blows it every time. I got this weird pain in my side when I heard his voice at the beginning of the program.


My issue is, dont start talking to him about his footwork if he isnt even doing the most elementary thing in boxing to defend himself. I agree, he was circling the wrong way. He also failed to create space once his combinations were done. He also squared up his body when he was throwing his jab. But damn all that. You can tell him that later. Just tell him to get his fuckin hands up lmaoooooooo The way that fight was going, the first fighter that employed any sort of quality defense would have won the fight.

I hate to admit it. While I like Bob Papa, Lampley's enthusiasm was needed for that fight. I wont concede Larry Merchant though. I cant think of oe scenario where him being around is a good thing lol.
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- Jack 1000   HBO@10PM(ET)/7PM(PT):Rios/Alverado-Donaire/Nishioka-SPOILERS   Oct 13 2012, 12:04 PM
- - Cshel86   Photos courtesy of BoxingScene   Oct 13 2012, 01:59 PM
- - Cshel86   Donaire/Nishioka: This will be another fight where...   Oct 13 2012, 02:16 PM
- - mgrover   wow Rios doesn't look like skelator for once   Oct 13 2012, 05:49 PM
- - Cshel86   Let's get down with the get-down!!...   Oct 13 2012, 09:01 PM
- - Cshel86   Damn...3 California judges?! California judges...   Oct 13 2012, 09:15 PM
- - Cshel86   Mike looks a bit uncomfortable...or maybe he's...   Oct 13 2012, 09:19 PM
- - Cshel86   Man these rounds are hard to score. Im just hoping...   Oct 13 2012, 09:24 PM
- - Cshel86   Man Rios cant keep getting hit with these lefts fr...   Oct 13 2012, 09:28 PM
- - BigFightFan   These guys both have good chins, it will come down...   Oct 13 2012, 09:28 PM
- - Cheesey1   Alvarado's D is disappointing. He's lettin...   Oct 13 2012, 09:30 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Oct 13 2012, 10:30 PM) ...   Oct 13 2012, 09:32 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 13 2012, 10:32 PM) H...   Oct 13 2012, 09:40 PM
- - Cshel86   Mike took the 5th...hands down! Hope Mike...   Oct 13 2012, 09:35 PM
- - Cshel86   Damn Mike got hurt by a Rios right hand in the 6th...   Oct 13 2012, 09:40 PM
- - Cheesey1   Mike Alvarado played himself big time. Congrats t...   Oct 13 2012, 09:43 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Oct 13 2012, 10:43 PM) ...   Oct 13 2012, 09:44 PM
- - Cshel86   WHAT THA FUUUUUUCK???? Had no idea Rios was gonna ...   Oct 13 2012, 09:43 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 13 2012, 10:43 PM) W...   Oct 13 2012, 09:44 PM
- - sduck   damn good fight   Oct 13 2012, 09:44 PM
- - Plah   Very entertaining fight overall. Nice stoppage.   Oct 13 2012, 09:44 PM
- - mgrover   am here finally almost slept through the whole thi...   Oct 13 2012, 09:48 PM
- - BigFightFan   Rios is just a pressure fighter with a good chin, ...   Oct 13 2012, 09:49 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (BigFightFan @ Oct 13 2012, 10:49 P...   Oct 13 2012, 09:50 PM
|- - Genius   QUOTE (BigFightFan @ Oct 13 2012, 09:49 P...   Oct 13 2012, 09:50 PM
||- - BigFightFan   QUOTE (Genius @ Oct 13 2012, 10:50 PM) Wi...   Oct 13 2012, 10:08 PM
|- - sduck   QUOTE (BigFightFan @ Oct 13 2012, 10:49 P...   Oct 13 2012, 09:55 PM
|- - Gambit808   QUOTE (BigFightFan @ Oct 13 2012, 10:49 P...   Oct 13 2012, 09:56 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Gambit808 @ Oct 13 2012, 10:56 PM)...   Oct 13 2012, 10:09 PM
- - Cshel86   I think I just hate Pat Russell, but who can blame...   Oct 13 2012, 09:52 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 13 2012, 10:52 PM) I...   Oct 13 2012, 09:56 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Oct 13 2012, 10:56 PM) ...   Oct 13 2012, 10:01 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 13 2012, 11:01 PM) S...   Oct 13 2012, 10:11 PM
- - Cshel86   Nishioka is a slick little bastard...he better sho...   Oct 13 2012, 10:04 PM
- - Cshel86   Just as I was hoping that Niskioka wouldn't do...   Oct 13 2012, 10:11 PM
- - mgrover   lol at this rate am not going to have anything to ...   Oct 13 2012, 10:15 PM
- - Cshel86   Donaire sucks...he appears to be too good for his ...   Oct 13 2012, 10:19 PM
- - sduck   Donaire is just better than this guy   Oct 13 2012, 10:22 PM
- - Cheesey1   I actually like Donaire, I just don't think he...   Oct 13 2012, 10:25 PM
- - mgrover   maybe i should of just stayed in bed   Oct 13 2012, 10:31 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (mgrover @ Oct 13 2012, 11:31 PM) m...   Oct 13 2012, 10:32 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Oct 14 2012, 04:32 AM) ...   Oct 13 2012, 10:34 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (mgrover @ Oct 13 2012, 11:34 PM) t...   Oct 13 2012, 10:37 PM
- - Cshel86   Donaire sucks. Nobody that he's fought has had...   Oct 13 2012, 10:32 PM
- - Genius   Easy work, now fight Rigo.   Oct 13 2012, 10:36 PM
- - sduck   Welp and that's that   Oct 13 2012, 10:37 PM
- - mgrover   i know people said that if he stops him he may get...   Oct 13 2012, 10:39 PM
- - BigFightFan   Pussy ass cornermen, give your guy a chance. That ...   Oct 13 2012, 10:39 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (BigFightFan @ Oct 13 2012, 11:39 P...   Oct 13 2012, 10:41 PM
- - mgrover   am out theres no point of a video to this. am off ...   Oct 13 2012, 10:42 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (mgrover @ Oct 13 2012, 11:42 PM) a...   Oct 13 2012, 10:50 PM
- - Plah   What a motherfucking lame excuse!!!...   Oct 13 2012, 10:43 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Plah @ Oct 13 2012, 11:43 PM) What...   Oct 13 2012, 10:51 PM
- - Gambit808   Don't like the way either fight ended prematur...   Oct 13 2012, 10:49 PM
- - Cshel86   Fuck Pat Russell! Cant stand that incompetent ...   Oct 13 2012, 10:52 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 13 2012, 11:52 PM) F...   Oct 13 2012, 10:56 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Oct 13 2012, 11:56 PM) ...   Oct 13 2012, 10:57 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 13 2012, 11:57 PM) I...   Oct 13 2012, 11:01 PM
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- - Jack 1000   Rios-Alverado! All-time classic little war...   Oct 14 2012, 02:37 AM
- - mgrover   Rios already calling out Pac? Smart move? Probably...   Oct 14 2012, 05:11 AM
- - Jack 1000   Great article on THE FIGHT!!!! ht...   Oct 14 2012, 05:33 AM
- - MaxPayne   This fight made Donaire real for me. I really expe...   Oct 14 2012, 07:07 AM
|- - Jack 1000   QUOTE (MaxPayne @ Oct 14 2012, 07:07 AM) ...   Oct 14 2012, 07:26 AM
- - Jack 1000   Here's a link to "World War III" My ...   Oct 14 2012, 07:19 AM
|- - Jack 1000   QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Oct 14 2012, 07:19 AM)...   Oct 14 2012, 07:32 AM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Oct 14 2012, 01:19 PM)...   Oct 14 2012, 07:36 AM
- - Franchize   Great slug fest! I had Alvarado winning slight...   Oct 14 2012, 09:22 AM
- - Cshel86   I think Alvarado should've studied that Abril ...   Oct 14 2012, 01:22 PM
|- - Franchize   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 14 2012, 02:22 PM) I...   Oct 14 2012, 04:28 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 14 2012, 02:22 PM) I...   Oct 14 2012, 01:52 PM
- - Jack 1000   I wish we could have head Lamps and Larry last nig...   Oct 14 2012, 04:34 PM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (checkleft @ Oct 14 2012, 02:52 PM)...   Oct 14 2012, 05:05 PM
|- - Franchize   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 14 2012, 06:05 PM) A...   Oct 14 2012, 07:43 PM
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- - daprofessor   oh yeah...nishioka turned out to be better than i ...   Oct 14 2012, 06:57 PM
- - The Original MrFactor   Is Donaire beating good fighters and making them l...   Oct 14 2012, 09:12 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Oct 14 2012, 06:48 P...   Oct 14 2012, 10:50 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (checkleft @ Oct 14 2012, 10:50 PM)...   Oct 15 2012, 12:43 PM
- - Jack 1000   Some good points, I think some may be reluctant t...   Oct 14 2012, 11:34 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Oct 14 2012, 11:34 PM)...   Oct 15 2012, 12:45 PM
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|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 16 2012, 03:10 PM) I...   Oct 16 2012, 02:18 PM
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