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Jack 1000
post Oct 13 2012, 12:04 PM
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For all the on-going and post-fight reaction to tonight's exciting HBO double-header! Keep everything in this thread!

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post Oct 15 2012, 08:53 PM
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I love how the commentators were REALLY trying to put us in the mind of Gatti/Ward (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I mean seriously, we were already expecting a barn burner, no need to shove it down our throats.

Still laughing at that poo-poo shoulder roll of Alvarado. LOL
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post Oct 16 2012, 01:19 PM
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QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 15 2012, 08:53 PM) *
I love how the commentators were REALLY trying to put us in the mind of Gatti/Ward (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I mean seriously, we were already expecting a barn burner, no need to shove it down our throats.

Still laughing at that poo-poo shoulder roll of Alvarado. LOL


it looked like something he was experimenting with. his trainer let him know immediately..."this shit is not working (mimicking the shoulder roll) get those hands up!" so i'm guessing he wasn't the one responsible for teaching him. the smallest adjustments would have made a world of difference for him...but apparently they didn't have that knowledge.

i used to like max...but lately i'm starting to grow tired of him. his over the top fake enthusiasm and trying to create controversy where there is none is just plain annoying. he's still a little easier on the ears than lamps and merch though. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Oct 16 2012, 02:10 PM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Oct 16 2012, 02:19 PM) *
it looked like something he was experimenting with. his trainer let him know immediately..."this shit is not working (mimicking the shoulder roll) get those hands up!" so i'm guessing he wasn't the one responsible for teaching him. the smallest adjustments would have made a world of difference for him...but apparently they didn't have that knowledge.

i used to like max...but lately i'm starting to grow tired of him. his over the top fake enthusiasm and trying to create controversy where there is none is just plain annoying. he's still a little easier on the ears than lamps and merch though. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I watched it again last night, and everybody and their ancestors were in Mike's corner telling him to step to the side. As big as his head is, you'd think he had some room up there to retain simple instructions, but I guess not.

He TOTALLY played into Rios's fight, and I honestly believe that he was playing into the whole idea of the fight being the next big slugfest for boxing fans. Just threw some great punches, but he stood there and waited for Rios to return fire, and return fire he did.

I don't have a problem with Kellerman, but I admit, I used to despise this guy. I didn't start liking his commentary, til the Morales/Maidana fight. I think Bob Papa just brings down the whole crew when he calls fight...his very existence during the telecast stinks. When I see him, I immediately get in the mindset that the fight wasn't taken seriously by the network. Am I the only one that feels that way?
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QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 16 2012, 03:10 PM) *
I watched it again last night, and everybody and their ancestors were in Mike's corner telling him to step to the side. As big as his head is, you'd think he had some room up there to retain simple instructions, but I guess not.

He TOTALLY played into Rios's fight, and I honestly believe that he was playing into the whole idea of the fight being the next big slugfest for boxing fans. Just threw some great punches, but he stood there and waited for Rios to return fire, and return fire he did.

I don't have a problem with Kellerman, but I admit, I used to despise this guy. I didn't start liking his commentary, til the Morales/Maidana fight. I think Bob Papa just brings down the whole crew when he calls fight...his very existence during the telecast stinks. When I see him, I immediately get in the mindset that the fight wasn't taken seriously by the network. Am I the only one that feels that way?


i don't mind papa but i think he doesn't really add excitement. he seems more suited for baseball or golf. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) i guess he's there to pitch everyone else meatballs. he usually asks roy very good questions to get roy talking...so i kind of like that combo.
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post Oct 16 2012, 03:27 PM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Oct 16 2012, 02:18 PM) *
i don't mind papa but i think he doesn't really add excitement. he seems more suited for baseball or golf. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) i guess he's there to pitch everyone else meatballs. he usually asks roy very good questions to get roy talking...so i kind of like that combo.


I think Bob tries, but he's light years from Lamply. And I know, people hate Lamps for shaking the pom-poms for the HBO contracted fighter for the last several years. However, pom-pom shaking for this war would have made it even MORE electric. If HBO is not using the original broadcast team for most BAD cards, I assume it is because of a money saving plan. I think Ross Greenberg put the plan in effect that Larry, Jim and Emanuel were gonna be the traditional guys doing some cards for HBO boxing and Papa, Kellerman, and Jones were gonna do the B.A.D cards. I also suspect that because Larry and Lamps are getting old, that who knows, they may have asked for less time. I think HBO is trying to appeal to a younger demographic with Papa, Max, and Roy on cards and its not working.

Or even better, could you imagine Col. Bob Sheridan working for HBO and calling that fight!!!!?? That fight was heart attack type excitement. Lamps or Col. Bob could provide that. Bob Papa can't. I mean Bob sure he was excited, but it wasn't Jim Lamply or Bob Sheridan excitement. The only thing is, Col Bob sucks up to Don King's fighters and the alphabet belts. He'll always give close rounds to King's fighter and try to persuade the audience that this is the case when it isn't. What was the fight where he had King's fighter way ahead, and he was so off-base? And the judges had it really close like it should have been? I can't think right now what that fight was.

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post Oct 16 2012, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Oct 16 2012, 04:27 PM) *
I think Bob tries, but he's light years from Lamply. And I know, people hate Lamps for shaking the pom-poms for the HBO contracted fighter for the last several years. However, pom-pom shaking for this war would have made it even MORE electric. If HBO is not using the original broadcast team for most BAD cards, I assume it is because of a money saving plan. I think Ross Greenberg put the plan in effect that Larry, Jim and Emanuel were gonna be the traditional guys doing some cards for HBO boxing and Papa, Kellerman, and Jones were gonna do the B.A.D cards. I also suspect that because Larry and Lamps are getting old, that who knows, they may have asked for less time. I think HBO is trying to appeal to a younger demographic with Papa, Max, and Roy on cards and its not working.

Or even better, could you imagine Col. Bob Sheridan working for HBO and calling that fight!!!!?? That fight was heart attack type excitement. Lamps or Col. Bob could provide that. Bob Papa can't. I mean Bob sure he was excited, but it wasn't Jim Lamply or Bob Sheridan excitement. The only thing is, Col Bob sucks up to Don King's fighters and the alphabet belts. He'll always give close rounds to King's fighter and try to persuade the audience that this is the case when it isn't. What was the fight where he had King's fighter way ahead, and he was so off-base? And the judges had it really close like it should have been? I can't think right now what that fight was.

Jack


honestly, i would love telecast with absolutely zero commentary....just the ring and crowd noise with mic's in the corners. maybe mic some ringside observers just to hear their response to the action...but not much more. it would give u the affect of actually being there...minus the drunk assholes spilling their drinks and shouting in your ears. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) the network that does this first will become my favorite!!!
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- Jack 1000   HBO@10PM(ET)/7PM(PT):Rios/Alverado-Donaire/Nishioka-SPOILERS   Oct 13 2012, 12:04 PM
- - Cshel86   Photos courtesy of BoxingScene   Oct 13 2012, 01:59 PM
- - Cshel86   Donaire/Nishioka: This will be another fight where...   Oct 13 2012, 02:16 PM
- - mgrover   wow Rios doesn't look like skelator for once   Oct 13 2012, 05:49 PM
- - Cshel86   Let's get down with the get-down!!...   Oct 13 2012, 09:01 PM
- - Cshel86   Damn...3 California judges?! California judges...   Oct 13 2012, 09:15 PM
- - Cshel86   Mike looks a bit uncomfortable...or maybe he's...   Oct 13 2012, 09:19 PM
- - Cshel86   Man these rounds are hard to score. Im just hoping...   Oct 13 2012, 09:24 PM
- - Cshel86   Man Rios cant keep getting hit with these lefts fr...   Oct 13 2012, 09:28 PM
- - BigFightFan   These guys both have good chins, it will come down...   Oct 13 2012, 09:28 PM
- - Cheesey1   Alvarado's D is disappointing. He's lettin...   Oct 13 2012, 09:30 PM
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|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 13 2012, 10:32 PM) H...   Oct 13 2012, 09:40 PM
- - Cshel86   Mike took the 5th...hands down! Hope Mike...   Oct 13 2012, 09:35 PM
- - Cshel86   Damn Mike got hurt by a Rios right hand in the 6th...   Oct 13 2012, 09:40 PM
- - Cheesey1   Mike Alvarado played himself big time. Congrats t...   Oct 13 2012, 09:43 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Oct 13 2012, 10:43 PM) ...   Oct 13 2012, 09:44 PM
- - Cshel86   WHAT THA FUUUUUUCK???? Had no idea Rios was gonna ...   Oct 13 2012, 09:43 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 13 2012, 10:43 PM) W...   Oct 13 2012, 09:44 PM
- - sduck   damn good fight   Oct 13 2012, 09:44 PM
- - Plah   Very entertaining fight overall. Nice stoppage.   Oct 13 2012, 09:44 PM
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