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[daprofessor]

i've always thought p4p talk was silly and just an excuse for certain fighters to avoid others, but lately, this shit is getting ridiculous. let me put this in perspective...when a guy like floyd dominates at 130 to 135 then moves up to win straps against quality opposition in the 140, 147 and 154 weight classes...ok, i'll listen to p4p talk. when a guy like pac fights 3 of the best fighters(jmm, em, barrera) in his division a total of ten times and comes out on top...yeah, i'll listen to p4p arguments on that one too! u want to be considered p4p one of the best in boxing...prove you are the best in your division. andre ward just fought in a tournament involving all the best at 168....and when the dust settled...he was the last man standing. he has proven to be the best in his division. i don't see anyone out there that would argue otherwise.

when a guy like donaire, who i think has the potential to be something special, chooses not to acknowledge the best in his division...and hasn't really proven to be the best in his division...that's where the p4p discussion needs to end. stop!!! i think agbeko, mares, moreno and rigondeaux all have something to say on the matter. i'm not saying he has to fight all of these guys....but at least beat 1 or 2. maybe a tournament is in order for 122 as well?

what say u?

[Cshel86]

Who has Donaire beat? Montiel? That was a nice knockout, but no. Niskioka? Not great. The only credit I give him, is the Vasquez Jr. fight, and the Darchinyan fight. Rigo has beaten Ramos, Marroquin, and Kennedy...two of the 3 of those fights were on big cards. So at this point, Donaire's name is just being pushed more than Rigo's.

Donaire's name has just been attached to Pacquiao's name because of his background and so on. Nonito has failed to make the most of it. The only 2 things that he has has in common with Manny is that, they're both Filipino, Arum runs them, and neither of them are good with contracts.

Remember how Nonito thought his contract was up and he was ready to jump ship? Little did he know, that 1-year "gotcha bitch!" extension was in his contract, hence why he's still with Arum fighting near no-hopers who are afraid to fight back, but he isn't good enough to embarrass them at will.

Rigo is at least able to stay in one division and make something happen, unlike a guy who keeps moving up and "running through" these no-hopers, and claiming that he cant find an opponent. As a matter of fact, I don't even know why fans HOPE for Donaire to fight a top level fighter, when that old wind bag is pulling the strings for him.