Oct 15 2012, 06:15 PM
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Light Heavyweight Group: Members Posts: 4,169 Joined: 20-May 11 From: killa kali Member No.: 12,336 |
i've always thought p4p talk was silly and just an excuse for certain fighters to avoid others, but lately, this shit is getting ridiculous. let me put this in perspective...when a guy like floyd dominates at 130 to 135 then moves up to win straps against quality opposition in the 140, 147 and 154 weight classes...ok, i'll listen to p4p talk. when a guy like pac fights 3 of the best fighters(jmm, em, barrera) in his division a total of ten times and comes out on top...yeah, i'll listen to p4p arguments on that one too! u want to be considered p4p one of the best in boxing...prove you are the best in your division. andre ward just fought in a tournament involving all the best at 168....and when the dust settled...he was the last man standing. he has proven to be the best in his division. i don't see anyone out there that would argue otherwise.
when a guy like donaire, who i think has the potential to be something special, chooses not to acknowledge the best in his division...and hasn't really proven to be the best in his division...that's where the p4p discussion needs to end. stop!!! i think agbeko, mares, moreno and rigondeaux all have something to say on the matter. i'm not saying he has to fight all of these guys....but at least beat 1 or 2. maybe a tournament is in order for 122 as well? what say u? |
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Oct 15 2012, 11:56 PM
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Flyweight Group: Members Posts: 193 Joined: 8-February 12 Member No.: 13,532 |
Thank you for posting this, i came on this site hoping someone actually had the same thoughts as me. I see great minds do think alike.
I hate it because i want to like nonito because he definitely does have skill, but i hate when i dont see him against anyone that even had a chance of winning. I know he wants to get his paper and his name up, but dammmm, i think it sounded pretty bitch about talking about rigondeaux after his fight with nishioka. I feel the problem is he must be trying to give the ILLUSION he's a top p4p without having any proof. I mean i know he knocked Montiel with that killer hook but all he seems to be concerned with now is tryna be sensational. And he should know that, i feel like hes tryna force it, trying too hard. He'll get checked against someone who can counter him with good defense and offense. Its corny because he talks about how it wont sell but it would probably be his best fight and would end up being an instant classic. Fight of the year. but i see Rigo taking it, if nonito knew he could beat him he woulda been fought him and and took that easy W just like his last couple of fights. Nonito already gets hit too much, I cant see him lasting against Rigondeaux. |
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Oct 16 2012, 12:42 PM
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Light Heavyweight Group: Members Posts: 4,169 Joined: 20-May 11 From: killa kali Member No.: 12,336 |
Thank you for posting this, i came on this site hoping someone actually had the same thoughts as me. I see great minds do think alike. I hate it because i want to like nonito because he definitely does have skill, but i hate when i dont see him against anyone that even had a chance of winning. I know he wants to get his paper and his name up, but dammmm, i think it sounded pretty bitch about talking about rigondeaux after his fight with nishioka. I feel the problem is he must be trying to give the ILLUSION he's a top p4p without having any proof. I mean i know he knocked Montiel with that killer hook but all he seems to be concerned with now is tryna be sensational. And he should know that, i feel like hes tryna force it, trying too hard. He'll get checked against someone who can counter him with good defense and offense. Its corny because he talks about how it wont sell but it would probably be his best fight and would end up being an instant classic. Fight of the year. but i see Rigo taking it, if nonito knew he could beat him he woulda been fought him and and took that easy W just like his last couple of fights. Nonito already gets hit too much, I cant see him lasting against Rigondeaux. the board is definitely high quality and i really appreciate the boxing minds here. thanks! his skill is undeniable...his resume is still being written. he has all the opposition in front of him to achieve greatness. i didn't like what he said after the fight....i think a tournament is in order. |
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daprofessor stop with the talk of nonito donaire being P4P Oct 15 2012, 06:15 PM
Cshel86 Class is officially in fuckin' session! Th... Oct 15 2012, 06:19 PM
checkleft This is a thread that I have made in my head a mil... Oct 15 2012, 07:22 PM
daprofessor QUOTE (checkleft @ Oct 15 2012, 07:22 PM)... Oct 15 2012, 07:26 PM
Cshel86 The big elephant in the room is, what division has... Oct 15 2012, 08:21 PM
daprofessor QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 15 2012, 08:21 PM) T... Oct 16 2012, 12:38 PM
leonthegee Nonito has p4p talent. He doesnt have a p4p resume... Oct 15 2012, 08:26 PM
bnoles4life QUOTE (leonthegee @ Oct 15 2012, 09:26 PM... Oct 16 2012, 07:26 AM
Cshel86 The problem with the boxing world, is that they ar... Oct 16 2012, 07:12 AM
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flazi if you think donaire wil smoke rigondueax, you are... Oct 16 2012, 02:08 PM
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Cshel86 Donaire has yet to be tested himself, and he barel... Oct 16 2012, 03:40 PM
Cshel86 Who has Donaire beat? Montiel? That was a nice kno... Oct 16 2012, 08:22 PM
Cshel86 I may be in the minority here, but here it goes. I... Oct 16 2012, 10:55 PM
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Franchize As soon as I saw this topic, I knew Cshel was read... Oct 17 2012, 09:51 AM
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daprofessor to donaire's credit....i agree with max when h... Oct 17 2012, 12:52 PM
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daprofessor searching the rankings...i came across this poll o... Oct 17 2012, 02:03 PM
flazi i don't think rigo can wait. he is getting up... Oct 17 2012, 03:08 PM
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