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[daprofessor]

i've always thought p4p talk was silly and just an excuse for certain fighters to avoid others, but lately, this shit is getting ridiculous. let me put this in perspective...when a guy like floyd dominates at 130 to 135 then moves up to win straps against quality opposition in the 140, 147 and 154 weight classes...ok, i'll listen to p4p talk. when a guy like pac fights 3 of the best fighters(jmm, em, barrera) in his division a total of ten times and comes out on top...yeah, i'll listen to p4p arguments on that one too! u want to be considered p4p one of the best in boxing...prove you are the best in your division. andre ward just fought in a tournament involving all the best at 168....and when the dust settled...he was the last man standing. he has proven to be the best in his division. i don't see anyone out there that would argue otherwise.

when a guy like donaire, who i think has the potential to be something special, chooses not to acknowledge the best in his division...and hasn't really proven to be the best in his division...that's where the p4p discussion needs to end. stop!!! i think agbeko, mares, moreno and rigondeaux all have something to say on the matter. i'm not saying he has to fight all of these guys....but at least beat 1 or 2. maybe a tournament is in order for 122 as well?

what say u?

[checkleft]

Wow...you guys sound like the Floyd Haters or the Martinez haters. The guys keeps beating quality opposition in front of him and then you call in the next guy to say he should beat before you say p4p. SMH. When he does beat Rigo you all will say he needs to fight Chris John or Caballero to be p4p. Boxing fans are so finicky maybe not as finicky as casual fans.

I dont think this is "finicky"... If he wasn't in such loaded divisions I could see your case but he instead picks guys like nishioka an older fighter coming off a very long layoff. In my view mares should not be fighting for a shot at donaire he is just as proven if not more than donaire. He won the tournament and took a rematch with agbeko and beat him soundly and now he's fighting a very good prime fighter in moreno. Out of the two I would expect nonito to be taking fights like this but he doesn't even ask for them, he's on his manny pacquiao saying he will fight whoever his promoter picks. I just expected more from nonito, not from his performance because he always finds a way to win but because of his competition. Now I really doubt he will stay at 122, and he will probably be fed a dismantled juanma on the way up