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mitukczuk
post Oct 21 2012, 10:28 AM
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It's been a long time since some young fighter amazed me, but hell....Danny Garcia did it.

Although Morales is on a clear decline and should retire before they fine and ban his ass from boxing. (No disrespect intended, hes still ERIK MORALES), I liked Garcia in that fight. Especially that thunderous LEFT.
Khan has some holes in his arsenal...and I think these won't be filled any time soon even with the guidance of Hunter, but he is a game and technically sound fighter with potential (damn, saying that hurts), Garcia still taxed his ass, clocked him with another left, kept calm while Khan was break dancin' all over the freaking squared circle and still managed to put up a meassured and humble interview afterwards.

What I am trying to say is, I really like the kid. He is not over the top cocky, got some skills (needs to improve some things of course), has nice amateur resume, PHILLY represent, he can fight, he can talk...I hope he stays on top of the world for a loooong time. Not a P4P material, but makes a good champ in my eyes.

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post Oct 21 2012, 07:49 PM
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You made some good points C-Shel, but I can't agree with everything you said. I agree Bronner, GRJr, Rios and a few others shouldn't be thrown into the equation as next opponents for Garcia. With that being said some of the fantasy match ups can quickly become a reality due to circumstances( money, injuries, availability, etc.) boxing is so unpredictable

In my opinion the Judah, peterson, FMWJr, and a Khan rematch fights are very possible. You were spot on with the analysis of a Judah and Peterson matchup but let me push my agenda for why a Mayweather fight might be possible.

1. As you said in a previous thread Floyd sits back and wait on someone to get hot, then step in to rock the cradle. Garcia is hot at the moment
2. Both guys are under Al Haymon, Garcia is signed with Golden and Mayweather works closely with them. Negotiation
should go smooth
3. Both are undefeated and the protein will be the the same as the Ortiz fight. A young lion with power challenging money for the crown.
4. Lenord Ellerbe was at the fight and I'm sure it was about business. Either they are trying to set up Ishe vs Quinlin or Mayweather vs Garcia.
5. Hatton was the recognized champ at 140 when he went up to WW to face Mayweather. Although Garcia wouldn't bring in the star power or fans that Hstton did.

It's not the fight I want to see, but I just have a feeling something is brewing between GBP and Mayweather Promotions. Lastly, why did you have to run everyone away from the thread with your last post? Lol
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post Oct 21 2012, 10:06 PM
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QUOTE (BigFightFan @ Oct 21 2012, 08:49 PM) *
You made some good points C-Shel, but I can't agree with everything you said. I agree Bronner, GRJr, Rios and a few others shouldn't be thrown into the equation as next opponents for Garcia. With that being said some of the fantasy match ups can quickly become a reality due to circumstances( money, injuries, availability, etc.) boxing is so unpredictable

In my opinion the Judah, peterson, FMWJr, and a Khan rematch fights are very possible. You were spot on with the analysis of a Judah and Peterson matchup but let me push my agenda for why a Mayweather fight might be possible.

1. As you said in a previous thread Floyd sits back and wait on someone to get hot, then step in to rock the cradle. Garcia is hot at the moment
2. Both guys are under Al Haymon, Garcia is signed with Golden and Mayweather works closely with them. Negotiation
should go smooth
3. Both are undefeated and the protein will be the the same as the Ortiz fight. A young lion with power challenging money for the crown.
4. Lenord Ellerbe was at the fight and I'm sure it was about business. Either they are trying to set up Ishe vs Quinlin or Mayweather vs Garcia.
5. Hatton was the recognized champ at 140 when he went up to WW to face Mayweather. Although Garcia wouldn't bring in the star power or fans that Hstton did.

It's not the fight I want to see, but I just have a feeling something is brewing between GBP and Mayweather Promotions. Lastly, why did you have to run everyone away from the thread with your last post? Lol

Ha! Gotta love the response from BFF, cant deny it! You made some good points my man, I cant lie to you on that part. You're right, boxing is unpredictable and shit happens...hence the reason that we got a Khan/Garcia fight in the first place. Excellent point.

1. Yes Floyd is waiting for something to pop off, so he can step in and make something.
2. Al doesn't like to match his fighters, so that may be a bit of a stretch. I can imagine the negotiations would be smooth, but I dont see him matching them.
3. I like the undefeated part, and the Hatton comparison. Hatton did have a couple of WW fights, though they weren't the best opponents. Hatton had "money" written all over him.
4. Ellerbe may HAVE been there for that reason, or Quillin vs Smith. I didn't even think about a Quillin/Smith bout, good stuff.
5. I agree. Again, Hatton had a couple of fights at WW. Ortiz didn't have but one fight at WW, and he made the most of it. I can understand that part. I agree that he probably wont bring the star power, but I guess we have to see where we go.

I dont want to see the fight either, but hey we will see. I didn't mean to run everyone away with my post, I just have to make a point that us as boxing fans, cant have it both ways. We cant say that Broner and Russell Jr. are great when they have fought lesser opposition, and say that Garcia doesn't have what it takes to step in the ring with Floyd.

Bradley was the unified champ at 140, and got a chance with Manny, but Danny cant be the unified champ at 140 and get a shot at Floyd? Guys were saying that Bute was a bum, but they crowned Froch as great after he knocked him out. Cant have it both ways.

Your points are great, mine aren't all that bad, now that you've countered them (LOL)...I guess we'll have to see what happens in the next few months. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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post Oct 21 2012, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 21 2012, 11:06 PM) *
Ha! Gotta love the response from BFF, cant deny it! You made some good points my man, I cant lie to you on that part. You're right, boxing is unpredictable and shit happens...hence the reason that we got a Khan/Garcia fight in the first place. Excellent point.

1. Yes Floyd is waiting for something to pop off, so he can step in and make something.
2. Al doesn't like to match his fighters, so that may be a bit of a stretch. I can imagine the negotiations would be smooth, but I dont see him matching them.
3. I like the undefeated part, and the Hatton comparison. Hatton did have a couple of WW fights, though they weren't the best opponents. Hatton had "money" written all over him.
4. Ellerbe may HAVE been there for that reason, or Quillin vs Smith. I didn't even think about a Quillin/Smith bout, good stuff.
5. I agree. Again, Hatton had a couple of fights at WW. Ortiz didn't have but one fight at WW, and he made the most of it. I can understand that part. I agree that he probably wont bring the star power, but I guess we have to see where we go.

I dont want to see the fight either, but hey we will see. I didn't mean to run everyone away with my post, I just have to make a point that us as boxing fans, cant have it both ways. We cant say that Broner and Russell Jr. are great when they have fought lesser opposition, and say that Garcia doesn't have what it takes to step in the ring with Floyd.

Bradley was the unified champ at 140, and got a chance with Manny, but Danny cant be the unified champ at 140 and get a shot at Floyd? Guys were saying that Bute was a bum, but they crowned Froch as great after he knocked him out. Cant have it both ways.

Your points are great, mine aren't all that bad, now that you've countered them (LOL)...I guess we'll have to see what happens in the next few months. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)


Totally forget about Bradley. Great point, I can't wait to see how this plays out.
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- mitukczuk   Ok sooo...Danny Garcia   Oct 21 2012, 10:28 AM
- - mgrover   we'll see how he deals with lucas mat i cant s...   Oct 21 2012, 10:34 AM
- - p4pcrown   I'd like to see Garcia vs Broner. If he gets p...   Oct 21 2012, 10:56 AM
|- - Marcus   QUOTE (p4pcrown @ Oct 21 2012, 11:56 AM) ...   Oct 21 2012, 11:49 AM
- - mitukczuk   I think Borner would outbox the hell out of him. M...   Oct 21 2012, 11:50 AM
|- - Marcus   QUOTE (mitukczuk @ Oct 21 2012, 12:50 PM)...   Oct 21 2012, 11:54 AM
|- - wolterb   QUOTE (Marcus @ Oct 21 2012, 12:54 PM) Po...   Oct 21 2012, 12:04 PM
- - Cshel86   Whew...thought this was a Garcia vs Mayweather thr...   Oct 21 2012, 12:21 PM
|- - mitukczuk   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 21 2012, 12:21 PM) W...   Oct 21 2012, 01:18 PM
||- - Gambit808   QUOTE (mitukczuk @ Oct 21 2012, 02:18 PM)...   Oct 21 2012, 04:31 PM
|- - Gambit808   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 21 2012, 01:21 PM) W...   Oct 21 2012, 04:25 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (mgrover @ Oct 21 2012, 10:34 AM) w...   Oct 21 2012, 02:03 PM
- - p4pcrown   Garcia has shown he can be beat and easily hit. Kh...   Oct 21 2012, 02:18 PM
|- - Marcus   QUOTE (p4pcrown @ Oct 21 2012, 03:18 PM) ...   Oct 21 2012, 03:24 PM
|- - Gambit808   QUOTE (Marcus @ Oct 21 2012, 04:24 PM) Br...   Oct 21 2012, 04:29 PM
- - daprofessor   garcia is a very solid fighter. he's nothing f...   Oct 21 2012, 03:06 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Oct 21 2012, 09:06 P...   Oct 21 2012, 03:38 PM
- - Marcus   Garcia might as well clean up the division before ...   Oct 21 2012, 03:28 PM
- - p4pcrown   Danny Garcia vs Timonthy Bradley!!! Br...   Oct 21 2012, 03:48 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Oct 21 2012, 03:06 P...   Oct 21 2012, 04:46 PM
|- - BigFightFan   QUOTE (checkleft @ Oct 21 2012, 05:46 PM)...   Oct 21 2012, 05:31 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (checkleft @ Oct 21 2012, 05:46 PM)...   Oct 21 2012, 08:25 PM
- - Cshel86   Great thread Mit! One thing that turns my st...   Oct 21 2012, 06:01 PM
- - BigFightFan   You made some good points C-Shel, but I can't ...   Oct 21 2012, 07:49 PM
|- - EpTXCHAMP   QUOTE (BigFightFan @ Oct 21 2012, 06:49 P...   Oct 21 2012, 08:49 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (BigFightFan @ Oct 21 2012, 08:49 P...   Oct 21 2012, 10:06 PM
|- - BigFightFan   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 21 2012, 11:06 PM) H...   Oct 21 2012, 10:31 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (BigFightFan @ Oct 21 2012, 11:31 P...   Oct 21 2012, 10:38 PM
- - p4pcrown   Mayweather vs Garcia? That's a tailor made fig...   Oct 21 2012, 07:55 PM
- - p4pcrown   I'd actually like to see Garcia fight Khan aga...   Oct 21 2012, 07:57 PM
- - EpTXCHAMP   Al Harmon is going to pick Judah hate to break to ...   Oct 21 2012, 08:33 PM
|- - BigFightFan   QUOTE (EpTXCHAMP @ Oct 21 2012, 09:33 PM)...   Oct 21 2012, 10:18 PM
|- - EpTXCHAMP   QUOTE (BigFightFan @ Oct 21 2012, 09:18 P...   Oct 21 2012, 10:22 PM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (EpTXCHAMP @ Oct 21 2012, 09:33 PM)...   Oct 21 2012, 10:26 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 21 2012, 11:26 PM) I...   Oct 22 2012, 01:54 AM
||- - Cshel86   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Oct 22 2012, 02:54 A...   Oct 22 2012, 06:58 AM
|- - EpTXCHAMP   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 21 2012, 09:26 PM) I...   Oct 22 2012, 02:50 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (BigFightFan @ Oct 21 2012, 05:31 P...   Oct 21 2012, 10:46 PM
- - HazConvictedFelonMane   It's nice to see that Angel Garcia is in favor...   Oct 22 2012, 01:12 PM
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|- - Marcus   QUOTE (HazConvictedFelonMane @ Oct 22 2012, 0...   Oct 22 2012, 03:06 PM
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