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mitukczuk
post Oct 25 2012, 09:24 AM
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Boxing has lost yet another another legend.

What are your best memories of Emanuel Steward guys ? For me there are three - his now memorable yelling during the 9th round of Ward vs. Gatti I, his "OH MY GAWD" during the 6th round of Ortiz vs. Berto and of course his chit chat with Lampley when the camera was pointed on Ms. Jackson's more than revealing dress during Mayweather vs. Ortiz fight...."That dress" !


How do you think Wlad will cope with the situation in the ring ?

RIP !

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post Oct 31 2012, 02:20 PM
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While I'm not trying to piss on the man's grave, you have to say the good along with the bad to have the true measure of a man. With that said then here goes:

Steward was the Father of the most bogus excuses for losing a fight, he came up with the "Weight Drained" theory (after TH was KO'd by SRL in their first fight) and the "Vaseline" theory (after Klits was KO'd by Brewster).

He often did the Uncle Tom shuffle when before fights when he was asked to pick a winner but he would never do so when there is a fighter that Merchant and Lampley preferred, he'd always say something like "I'm in a mess on trying to pick a winner in this bout" or "we'll just have to wait and see".

It seems he was often afraid to pick the over fighter over the HBO house fighter but I'll always recognize him as a great Trainer despite his waffling on picking a winner and his manufactured/evented excuses whenever his best fighters lost a fight.
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post Nov 2 2012, 06:22 PM
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QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Oct 31 2012, 02:20 PM) *
While I'm not trying to piss on the man's grave, you have to say the good along with the bad to have the true measure of a man. With that said then here goes:

Steward was the Father of the most bogus excuses for losing a fight, he came up with the "Weight Drained" theory (after TH was KO'd by SRL in their first fight) and the "Vaseline" theory (after Klits was KO'd by Brewster).

He often did the Uncle Tom shuffle when before fights when he was asked to pick a winner but he would never do so when there is a fighter that Merchant and Lampley preferred, he'd always say something like "I'm in a mess on trying to pick a winner in this bout" or "we'll just have to wait and see".

It seems he was often afraid to pick the over fighter over the HBO house fighter but I'll always recognize him as a great Trainer despite his waffling on picking a winner and his manufactured/evented excuses whenever his best fighters lost a fight.


1. never heard that theory from him....but it happens.

2. that was wlad's story....not manny's. i remember manny speaking against that theory.

3. most of the time he did that...i shared his view on the matter. there are tough fights sometimes and picking a winner isn't always clear cut. u know if fighter A does this...then he should win...but if fighter B does this...he's got a shot too. he used to look at and cover all bases. it's what trainers do. i can't call that waffling....or uncle tom shuffle.

as for him being afraid...i don't know about that...but he would say what he thought....then lampley or merchants over-powering/over-bearing personalities would try to shoot down his view or offer theirs...i think he just agreed to keep things going instead of arguing like big george used to do.

what i found funny was his...."this is exactly how i thought it was going to go...." i am guilty of that sometimes. as a trainer....and a fighter....u play out several scenarios and map out your plan accordingly. if i've done that the way i'm supposed to, because there are soooo many variables in a fight...one of those scenarios is bound to be right....so, "this is exactly how i thought it would go!" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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- mitukczuk   Manny Steward   Oct 25 2012, 09:24 AM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (mitukczuk @ Oct 25 2012, 09:24 AM)...   Oct 25 2012, 09:31 AM
- - Gambit808   RIP   Oct 25 2012, 10:10 AM
- - pimpfighterROQ   Holy fuck! Wasn't he just commentating on ...   Oct 25 2012, 10:11 AM
- - BigFightFan   It's sad to see Emanuel go, I enjoyed his know...   Oct 25 2012, 10:39 AM
- - Cshel86   Damn this hit home, and I'm really gonna miss ...   Oct 25 2012, 10:53 AM
|- - BigDDatHomey   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 25 2012, 11:53 AM) D...   Oct 25 2012, 11:00 AM
- - BigFightFan   http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/sports/emanuel-ste...eport...   Oct 25 2012, 11:10 AM
- - mitukczuk   Let's just hope it realy isn't true. I dig...   Oct 25 2012, 11:19 AM
- - Cheesey1   I hope that he hasn't but if he has, R.I.P. C...   Oct 25 2012, 11:22 AM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (BigFightFan @ Oct 25 2012, 12:10 P...   Oct 25 2012, 11:29 AM
- - Franchize   I'm so confused. So many conflicting reports. ...   Oct 25 2012, 11:44 AM
- - mitukczuk   Its strange seeing all these statements from peopl...   Oct 25 2012, 11:53 AM
- - sduck   And I came to say RIP....   Oct 25 2012, 12:33 PM
- - Cshel86   Man the internet has killed off a slew of public f...   Oct 25 2012, 02:24 PM
|- - BigDDatHomey   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 25 2012, 03:24 PM) M...   Oct 25 2012, 06:08 PM
- - mitukczuk   I think I may as well take the statement from his ...   Oct 25 2012, 02:28 PM
- - sduck   It's been confirmed, he passed away. RIP Manny   Oct 25 2012, 03:26 PM
- - The Original MrFactor   Well, we knew he was sick because Wlad had to repl...   Oct 25 2012, 03:37 PM
- - Franchize   While I didnt always agree with his strategies as ...   Oct 25 2012, 04:56 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (Franchize @ Oct 25 2012, 05:56 PM)...   Oct 25 2012, 05:23 PM
- - daprofessor   this saddens me deeply. i have always admired mann...   Oct 25 2012, 06:40 PM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (BigDDatHomey @ Oct 25 2012, 12:00 ...   Oct 25 2012, 08:03 PM
|- - Franchize   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 25 2012, 09:03 PM) A...   Oct 26 2012, 12:50 AM
- - Jovi   Trade steward for Arum.   Oct 25 2012, 10:01 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (BigDDatHomey @ Oct 25 2012, 12:00 ...   Oct 25 2012, 11:10 PM
- - HazConvictedFelonMane   Rest In Peace. Emanuel Steward will be forever in ...   Oct 26 2012, 12:35 AM
- - Jack 1000   RIP Manny, You are one of the greatest trainers a...   Oct 26 2012, 12:57 AM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Jovi @ Oct 25 2012, 11:01 PM) Trad...   Oct 27 2012, 12:43 PM
- - BoxingFan86   RIP   Oct 27 2012, 01:58 PM
- - mgrover   this is bad, people say boxings dying because of M...   Oct 27 2012, 04:24 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (mgrover @ Oct 27 2012, 04:24 PM) t...   Nov 2 2012, 06:32 PM
- - BrutUalBK   While I'm not trying to piss on the man's ...   Oct 31 2012, 02:20 PM
- - Franchize   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Oct 31 2012, 03:20 PM)...   Nov 1 2012, 12:48 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (Franchize @ Nov 1 2012, 12:48 PM) ...   Nov 1 2012, 02:57 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Franchize @ Nov 1 2012, 12:48 PM) ...   Nov 2 2012, 06:24 PM
|- - Franchize   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 2 2012, 07:24 PM...   Nov 5 2012, 09:13 AM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Franchize @ Nov 5 2012, 09:13 AM) ...   Nov 6 2012, 08:34 AM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 6 2012, 08:34 AM) Ma...   Nov 6 2012, 03:50 PM
- - daprofessor   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Oct 31 2012, 02:20 PM)...   Nov 2 2012, 06:22 PM


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