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post Nov 3 2012, 05:03 AM
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1) Using knuckle pads (Pacman, Trinidad)

2) Plaster of Paris (Margarito, Resto)

3) Diarrhetics/Weight loss supplements (Chavez Jr, Morales)

4) Steroids (Mosley, Berto, Tarver)

5) Stamina Enhancers (Resto, Morales, maybe Pryor)

I do a little boxing, my little brother does a lot of boxing, and I have a lot if friends involved in it as well. To me I think I would say the worst ones in my personal opinion would have to be the knuckle pads/plaster and the stamina enhancers. Personally anyone who hardens their hands is garbage and should be in prison or banned for life. The stamina enhancers is a strong point with me because as your sustaining damage you have greater lung capacity then your opponent therefore your brain receives more oxygen so not only are you performing better because you don't tire physically, you are possibilly better at making decisions mentally because you are not fatigued and your thinking more clearly.

For me steroids in boxing is sort of like how I see it in basketball, yes it MIGHT play a factor but in the end there is so much skill, technique, and craft involved that it could not be a factor at all. Don't get me wrong it is still a sin in boxing but its just not my personal top one

What do you guys think?
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post Nov 6 2012, 05:47 PM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 6 2012, 05:04 PM) *
what you are talking about is when the tape is rolled between the fingers. that's something different and doesn't add to anything. it protrudes past the knuckle....and yes, that is illegal.

again....trinidad wrapped his hands without the other corner being present. they re-wrapped his hands in the same manner. richardson accused them of stacking....(tape, then gauze, then tape..) but if they did anything illegal, there would have been punishment by the commission like what resto and margarito had. same goes for pac.

resto's case is very well documented....there was padding removed from the glove. it's not hard to research this. i've been involved in these discussions before. i've wrapped hands both professionally and on the amateur level for the past 15 years in a few different states and countries. i've done the research.

on a different note...what richardson has become a master at is psychological games surrounding the wrapping of hands. he does know the rules...and he does catch the mistakes....but i think he just brings a nervous energy to something that is normally a very relaxing moment for fighter and trainer. he comes in and disrupts that....and it gets carried to the ring. a good trainer wouldn't allow it....especially one that is on his shit and does things by the book.

Resto has admitted to having padding removed and plastering that same night.
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/ne...tory?id=3329115

But in trinidads case there are quotes from Richardson saying he was stacking (tape anywhere on the knuckle). But that's just word of mouth and the NY commission isn't exactly the most trustworthy source lol

But the tape thing is because there are many tricks out there to harden the tape like dipping them in ice water. That's why I think both are equally as bad cause in my mind tape is trying to deceive while plaster is more obvious.

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- checkleft   Which is worse??   Nov 3 2012, 05:03 AM
- - p4pcrown   Definitely the knuckle pads and plaster. They have...   Nov 3 2012, 10:54 AM
- - Plah   1) Plaster 2) Knuckle Pads 3) Steroids/Peds 4) ...   Nov 3 2012, 11:32 AM
- - Cheesey1   I consider stamina enhancers and steroids/PEDs to ...   Nov 3 2012, 12:56 PM
- - sduck   I think I pretty much agree with you checkleft....   Nov 3 2012, 05:27 PM
- - flazi   plaster. the damage of those left in its wake is ...   Nov 5 2012, 03:46 PM
- - flazi   thinking back, how many other margarito oppenents ...   Nov 5 2012, 03:48 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (flazi @ Nov 5 2012, 03:48 PM) thin...   Nov 5 2012, 06:12 PM
- - daprofessor   QUOTE (checkleft @ Nov 3 2012, 05:03 AM) ...   Nov 5 2012, 06:03 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 5 2012, 06:03 PM...   Nov 5 2012, 06:55 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (checkleft @ Nov 5 2012, 06:55 PM) ...   Nov 6 2012, 04:04 PM
|- - Franchize   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 6 2012, 05:04 PM...   Nov 8 2012, 09:12 AM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Franchize @ Nov 8 2012, 09:12 AM) ...   Nov 8 2012, 09:36 PM
|- - Franchize   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 8 2012, 09:36 PM...   Nov 9 2012, 08:48 AM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Franchize @ Nov 9 2012, 08:48 AM) ...   Nov 9 2012, 04:27 PM
|- - Franchize   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 9 2012, 04:27 PM...   Nov 10 2012, 09:31 AM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (flazi @ Nov 5 2012, 03:48 PM) thin...   Nov 5 2012, 06:58 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 6 2012, 05:04 PM...   Nov 6 2012, 05:47 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (checkleft @ Nov 6 2012, 05:47 PM) ...   Nov 7 2012, 05:44 PM
- - Cshel86   Plaster all day! Worse fuckin' violation i...   Nov 6 2012, 06:43 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 7 2012, 06:44 PM...   Nov 7 2012, 09:27 PM
- - mgrover   the plaster takes it by a mile   Nov 8 2012, 07:03 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 9 2012, 04:27 PM...   Nov 10 2012, 07:15 PM


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