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Jack 1000
post Nov 24 2012, 12:18 PM
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Cshel86
post Nov 24 2012, 11:44 PM
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How many muthafuckkin' times were they gonna let Guerrero hit Berto after the bell??? WTF??? That's some bullshit as California nonsense.
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post Nov 25 2012, 02:29 PM
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QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 24 2012, 10:44 PM) *
How many muthafuckkin' times were they gonna let Guerrero hit Berto after the bell??? WTF??? That's some bullshit as California nonsense.


You know and it's getting worse! Even with experienced refs. We are seeing more and more local refs afraid to penalize the local guy!!! Solution? Bring in more international refs. Commissions are doing it for judges. But California, Nevada, Texas, they all want to use one of their own who NEVER penalizes the guy they are trying to promote. Lou Moret just made holding and hitting legal by his laid-back non-authority! Guerrero should have had AT LEAST 2 POINTS off for holding and hitting.

What a great fight! I had it 7-4-1 with an even 7th round!!!!! (For Guerrero)

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post Nov 25 2012, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Nov 25 2012, 02:29 PM) *
You know and it's getting worse! Even with experienced refs. We are seeing more and more local refs afraid to penalize the local guy!!! Solution? Bring in more international refs. Commissions are doing it for judges. But California, Nevada, Texas, they all want to use one of their own who NEVER penalizes the guy they are trying to promote. Lou Moret just made holding and hitting legal by his laid-back non-authority! Guerrero should have had AT LEAST 2 POINTS off for holding and hitting.

What a great fight! I had it 7-4-1 with an even 7th round!!!!!

Jack

Im not sure if I should stone the ref to death for being scared to penalize Guerrero, or throw that same rock to wake him up from autopilot mode. Solution? Bring in Kenny Bayless! When everybody else wants to screw up, just give the assignment to Bayless. I guarantee Robert wouldn't have gotten away with what he did last night.

I love matchups like last night's, but promoters need to be more sensitive about the fact that a formidable ref is needed in these fights. I didn't wait 2 months for this fight, just to see an incompetent ref ruin the flow of it.

Im not sure who's worse...California or Texas.

Texas:
Pascal/Cloud
Kirkland/Molina
Chavez/Rubio (drug test neglect)


California:
Dawson/Hopkins 1
Mares/Agbeko (Russell Mora)
Mares/Moreno

Im 110% sure I've missed a few, but I was just trying to make a quick point. Lol. Moret was horrible last night.
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- Jack 1000   HBO@10PM(ET)/7PM(PT): Berto vs. Guerrero-SPOILERS   Nov 24 2012, 12:18 PM
- - mitukczuk   Dear God, please give us that good'ol Berto wi...   Nov 24 2012, 01:45 PM
- - Cshel86   Totally agree with Mit, on his hopes for this even...   Nov 24 2012, 01:58 PM
- - mitukczuk   Totally agree, C'. I might be home to actual...   Nov 24 2012, 02:05 PM
- - Jack 1000   'll take Guerrero by SD. But it only takes one...   Nov 24 2012, 03:53 PM
- - Plah   I say Guerrero 7 rounds to Berto's 5.   Nov 24 2012, 04:07 PM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (mitukczuk @ Nov 24 2012, 02:05 PM)...   Nov 24 2012, 08:24 PM
- - Cshel86   As for the Quintana/Thurman fight...I like Thurman...   Nov 24 2012, 08:30 PM
- - mitukczuk   Ok, im pretty sure i will survive an upset now, so...   Nov 24 2012, 09:42 PM
- - Cheesey1   Should be very competitive. Picking Berto. Thurma...   Nov 24 2012, 09:57 PM
- - Cshel86   Im here! Full of Henny...of course! I see ...   Nov 24 2012, 10:00 PM
- - Cshel86   Quintana is keeping Thurman busy with this movemen...   Nov 24 2012, 10:15 PM
- - Plah   Ouch   Nov 24 2012, 10:16 PM
- - Gambit808   The day of the Body Shots lol   Nov 24 2012, 10:17 PM
- - Cshel86   Good job for Quintana for running around until he ...   Nov 24 2012, 10:21 PM
- - Gambit808   Sooner or later Quintana's gonna get tired and...   Nov 24 2012, 10:25 PM
- - Cshel86   I fuckin' HATE when pro fighters refuse to tak...   Nov 24 2012, 10:28 PM
- - Gambit808   Ok KT, now I'm impressed. Wus up with the catc...   Nov 24 2012, 10:30 PM
- - Cheesey1   Interesting. Broner calls out Pacqauio.   Nov 24 2012, 10:38 PM
|- - Gambit808   QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Nov 24 2012, 11:38 PM) ...   Nov 24 2012, 10:48 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Gambit808 @ Nov 24 2012, 10:48 PM)...   Nov 24 2012, 10:55 PM
- - Gambit808   What's with Jim and these "on the fence...   Nov 24 2012, 10:45 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Gambit808 @ Nov 24 2012, 10:45 PM)...   Nov 24 2012, 10:45 PM
- - Cshel86   Guerrero's had a hard career outside of the ri...   Nov 24 2012, 10:51 PM
- - Gambit808   I'm going with Berto by KO.   Nov 24 2012, 10:51 PM
- - leonthegee   Good fight for Thurman. I still want to see him in...   Nov 24 2012, 10:52 PM
- - Gambit808   What if someone pulled that skull mask off of that...   Nov 24 2012, 10:55 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Gambit808 @ Nov 24 2012, 10:55 PM)...   Nov 24 2012, 10:56 PM
||- - Gambit808   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 24 2012, 11:56 PM) W...   Nov 24 2012, 11:00 PM
|- - Jack 1000   QUOTE (Gambit808 @ Nov 24 2012, 09:55 PM)...   Nov 25 2012, 02:22 PM
- - Gambit808   Looks like Berto should try his own style instead ...   Nov 24 2012, 10:59 PM
- - Genius   Berto proving the philly shell is not easy to do H...   Nov 24 2012, 10:59 PM
- - leonthegee   If you don't have the D don't use the shou...   Nov 24 2012, 11:01 PM
- - Cshel86   Why is Guerrero able to get away with all of this ...   Nov 24 2012, 11:02 PM
- - Cheesey1   Berto. It's not looking good (especially with...   Nov 24 2012, 11:03 PM
- - Plah   Berto getting bullied hard... weird fight.   Nov 24 2012, 11:07 PM
- - Cshel86   Guerrero is fighting like a little bitch with all ...   Nov 24 2012, 11:07 PM
- - BigFightFan   Berto needs to create space if he wants to win   Nov 24 2012, 11:09 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (BigFightFan @ Nov 24 2012, 11:09 P...   Nov 24 2012, 11:17 PM
- - Cshel86   Funny how Robert is backing up since Berto's l...   Nov 24 2012, 11:11 PM
- - Cshel86   Guerrero's NOT taking advantage of the present...   Nov 24 2012, 11:14 PM
|- - Plah   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 25 2012, 12:14 AM) G...   Nov 24 2012, 11:16 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Plah @ Nov 24 2012, 11:16 PM) Ref ...   Nov 24 2012, 11:17 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 24 2012, 11:17 PM) I...   Nov 24 2012, 11:44 PM
- - BigFightFan   This ref needs to retire ASAP   Nov 24 2012, 11:16 PM
- - Cshel86   Guerrero aint SHIT without that left hand, he look...   Nov 24 2012, 11:20 PM
- - Cshel86   Damn...round 7 was not for children. Good round ...   Nov 24 2012, 11:23 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 24 2012, 11:23 PM) D...   Nov 24 2012, 11:24 PM
- - Cheesey1   Damn, what a round.   Nov 24 2012, 11:23 PM
- - Gambit808   What a fight!   Nov 24 2012, 11:24 PM
- - Cshel86   How do you have a guy in front of you with one eye...   Nov 24 2012, 11:28 PM
- - leonthegee   Berto doesn't realize Guerreros a southpaw. He...   Nov 24 2012, 11:28 PM
- - Cshel86   Both guys cant see out of their right eyes...what ...   Nov 24 2012, 11:33 PM
- - Cheesey1   Credit to Berto. If he hadn't suffered the kn...   Nov 24 2012, 11:33 PM
- - leonthegee   I'm in love with Broners bitch.   Nov 24 2012, 11:40 PM
- - Cshel86   Guerrero cant possibly think that he's gonna p...   Nov 24 2012, 11:40 PM
|- - BigFightFan   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 24 2012, 11:40 PM) G...   Nov 24 2012, 11:45 PM
- - Gambit808   Now I know what a black Asian looks like looking a...   Nov 24 2012, 11:41 PM
- - Genius   POS ref!!!   Nov 24 2012, 11:43 PM
- - Cshel86   How many muthafuckkin' times were they gonna l...   Nov 24 2012, 11:44 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 24 2012, 11:44 PM) H...   Nov 24 2012, 11:47 PM
||- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Nov 24 2012, 11:47 PM) ...   Nov 24 2012, 11:51 PM
|||- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 24 2012, 11:51 PM) G...   Nov 24 2012, 11:57 PM
|||- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Nov 24 2012, 11:57 PM) ...   Nov 25 2012, 12:00 AM
|||- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 25 2012, 12:00 AM) I...   Nov 25 2012, 12:11 AM
||- - BigFightFan   QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Nov 24 2012, 11:47 PM) ...   Nov 24 2012, 11:56 PM
|- - Jack 1000   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 24 2012, 10:44 PM) H...   Nov 25 2012, 02:29 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Nov 25 2012, 02:29 PM)...   Nov 25 2012, 02:39 PM
- - Cshel86   Please give both of these motherfuckers a pair of ...   Nov 24 2012, 11:47 PM
- - KOpower   The amount of late shots Guerro took was sickening...   Nov 24 2012, 11:48 PM
- - KOpower   The official was terrible. Guerro was fighting ext...   Nov 24 2012, 11:53 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (KOpower @ Nov 24 2012, 11:53 PM) T...   Nov 24 2012, 11:54 PM
- - VJones   Every time I see, hear, or read about Robert Guerr...   Nov 25 2012, 12:04 AM
- - The Original MrFactor   GREAT FIGHT... The ref was a real dumbass. The end...   Nov 25 2012, 12:06 AM
- - Franchize   Not trying to be a hater but I didnt see anything ...   Nov 25 2012, 01:41 AM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Franchize @ Nov 25 2012, 01:41 AM)...   Nov 25 2012, 09:38 AM
|- - Jack 1000   QUOTE (Franchize @ Nov 25 2012, 12:41 AM)...   Nov 25 2012, 02:37 PM
- - Franchize   LMAO at Broner saying "you can put me butt na...   Nov 25 2012, 01:49 AM
- - mitukczuk   Damn, it seems like I missed out on a LOT ! Go...   Nov 25 2012, 06:57 AM
- - Jovi   I couldn't even be happy for Guerrero winning,...   Nov 25 2012, 11:26 AM
- - mitukczuk   I have just started watching the fight...1st round...   Nov 25 2012, 11:52 AM
- - BoxingFan86   How were the 2 knockdowns not illegal? I mean, bot...   Nov 25 2012, 01:06 PM
- - Gambit808   Ya know after this FOTY canidate, just like Ortiz,...   Nov 25 2012, 01:31 PM
- - Cshel86   I have yet to go back and watch the fight (while s...   Nov 25 2012, 02:19 PM
- - Genius   Like to see Berto get with Cottos trainer....he ne...   Nov 25 2012, 02:26 PM
- - daprofessor   the ref really ruined that fight for me. his stern...   Nov 25 2012, 03:02 PM
|- - Franchize   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 25 2012, 03:02 P...   Nov 26 2012, 06:20 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Franchize @ Nov 26 2012, 07:20 PM)...   Nov 26 2012, 07:41 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 25 2012, 03:02 P...   Nov 26 2012, 03:09 PM
|- - BoxingFan86   QUOTE (checkleft @ Nov 26 2012, 03:09 PM)...   Nov 26 2012, 05:44 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (checkleft @ Nov 26 2012, 04:09 PM)...   Nov 26 2012, 07:33 PM
- - neophyte7   Berto needs Floyd Sr.. period...   Nov 26 2012, 05:56 PM
- - flazi   we all knew berto is chiny in the first few rounds...   Nov 26 2012, 06:39 PM
|- - Franchize   QUOTE (flazi @ Nov 26 2012, 06:39 PM) we ...   Nov 26 2012, 06:52 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 26 2012, 07:33 P...   Nov 26 2012, 08:48 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (checkleft @ Nov 26 2012, 09:48 PM)...   Nov 26 2012, 09:25 PM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (checkleft @ Nov 26 2012, 08:48 PM)...   Nov 26 2012, 09:46 PM
|- - Franchize   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 26 2012, 09:46 PM) S...   Nov 27 2012, 09:26 AM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Franchize @ Nov 27 2012, 09:26 AM)...   Nov 27 2012, 11:46 AM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 26 2012, 09:25 P...   Nov 26 2012, 10:23 PM
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