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Jack 1000
post Nov 24 2012, 12:18 PM
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post Nov 25 2012, 02:19 PM
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I have yet to go back and watch the fight (while sober), so I'll save my reassessment and harp on what happened last night (what a loser I am). Nothing about Guerrero made me like him any more than before, after his performance last night. He commenced to smothering and was a complete jerkoff in the post-fight interview.

How can he cut Berto off, and he was allowed to speak during his interview? After being an utter piece of shit, he grabs the mic and goes into an obligatory, bullshit, religious-related, clean-up speech about his Lord & Savior. Dude, you were being an asshole like .02 seconds ago....kill that noise.

How many weight classes has Guerrero moved up? He's come from 122-147 with NO issues? He was getting hit flush by a full-fledged WW, and...nothing? Hmm...I'll be the first asshole to point the PED finger and make an assumption...just for the sake of being an asshole.

As someone mentioned earlier, Berto is too big to be getting punked around the ring like that. It's crazy how he just can't seem to keep the fight in the center of the ring, where Guerrero tried his hardest to avoid. Dude, work on your legs.

I just couldn't get with Guerrero's smothering, along with him grabbing Berto and punching him at the same time. I usually gripe about Berto clinching too much, but what else could he have done last night? He fought a dirty but determined Guerrero and the couch-potato ref who was on autopilot all night.

I kinda felt bad for Berto, but he needed a fight like that last night...to shake off the inactivity and prove that he's still a warrior. I'm not convinced that he's an elite fighter, but he can still hang with B-level fighters. He has A LOT of work to do, and he can start by getting a new trainer, or at least an assistant trainer, and get rid of that loud ass dad of his. I heard that Haitian mumbo jumbo all freakin' night...how annoying.

Anyhow, great fight, for what it was worth. I still think Guerrero gets fleeced by other WWs like Lopez, Ortiz (yeah...Ortiz), and Maidana (who has discovered the jab after all these years, lol).

PSA: Don't take this the wrong way, but after reading comments sections and other forums since the fight, I've seen waaay too many johnny-come-lately fans who are crowing Guerrero as their next Hispanic Hero because he beat Berto. C'mon man, some of those mofos were crying how tired they were of Guerrero months ago. He's NOT gonna get a Floyd fight, and if he does, I'll be surprised. Ortiz got the Floyd fight because he SELLS TICKETS, was built as the next Oscar, and he was the first to impressively beat Berto. Guerrero still has some heavy lifting to do, so he may wanna set his fights on Maidana or Lopez in the meantime.

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- Jack 1000   HBO@10PM(ET)/7PM(PT): Berto vs. Guerrero-SPOILERS   Nov 24 2012, 12:18 PM
- - mitukczuk   Dear God, please give us that good'ol Berto wi...   Nov 24 2012, 01:45 PM
- - Cshel86   Totally agree with Mit, on his hopes for this even...   Nov 24 2012, 01:58 PM
- - mitukczuk   Totally agree, C'. I might be home to actual...   Nov 24 2012, 02:05 PM
- - Jack 1000   'll take Guerrero by SD. But it only takes one...   Nov 24 2012, 03:53 PM
- - Plah   I say Guerrero 7 rounds to Berto's 5.   Nov 24 2012, 04:07 PM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (mitukczuk @ Nov 24 2012, 02:05 PM)...   Nov 24 2012, 08:24 PM
- - Cshel86   As for the Quintana/Thurman fight...I like Thurman...   Nov 24 2012, 08:30 PM
- - mitukczuk   Ok, im pretty sure i will survive an upset now, so...   Nov 24 2012, 09:42 PM
- - Cheesey1   Should be very competitive. Picking Berto. Thurma...   Nov 24 2012, 09:57 PM
- - Cshel86   Im here! Full of Henny...of course! I see ...   Nov 24 2012, 10:00 PM
- - Cshel86   Quintana is keeping Thurman busy with this movemen...   Nov 24 2012, 10:15 PM
- - Plah   Ouch   Nov 24 2012, 10:16 PM
- - Gambit808   The day of the Body Shots lol   Nov 24 2012, 10:17 PM
- - Cshel86   Good job for Quintana for running around until he ...   Nov 24 2012, 10:21 PM
- - Gambit808   Sooner or later Quintana's gonna get tired and...   Nov 24 2012, 10:25 PM
- - Cshel86   I fuckin' HATE when pro fighters refuse to tak...   Nov 24 2012, 10:28 PM
- - Gambit808   Ok KT, now I'm impressed. Wus up with the catc...   Nov 24 2012, 10:30 PM
- - Cheesey1   Interesting. Broner calls out Pacqauio.   Nov 24 2012, 10:38 PM
|- - Gambit808   QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Nov 24 2012, 11:38 PM) ...   Nov 24 2012, 10:48 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Gambit808 @ Nov 24 2012, 10:48 PM)...   Nov 24 2012, 10:55 PM
- - Gambit808   What's with Jim and these "on the fence...   Nov 24 2012, 10:45 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Gambit808 @ Nov 24 2012, 10:45 PM)...   Nov 24 2012, 10:45 PM
- - Cshel86   Guerrero's had a hard career outside of the ri...   Nov 24 2012, 10:51 PM
- - Gambit808   I'm going with Berto by KO.   Nov 24 2012, 10:51 PM
- - leonthegee   Good fight for Thurman. I still want to see him in...   Nov 24 2012, 10:52 PM
- - Gambit808   What if someone pulled that skull mask off of that...   Nov 24 2012, 10:55 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Gambit808 @ Nov 24 2012, 10:55 PM)...   Nov 24 2012, 10:56 PM
||- - Gambit808   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 24 2012, 11:56 PM) W...   Nov 24 2012, 11:00 PM
|- - Jack 1000   QUOTE (Gambit808 @ Nov 24 2012, 09:55 PM)...   Nov 25 2012, 02:22 PM
- - Gambit808   Looks like Berto should try his own style instead ...   Nov 24 2012, 10:59 PM
- - Genius   Berto proving the philly shell is not easy to do H...   Nov 24 2012, 10:59 PM
- - leonthegee   If you don't have the D don't use the shou...   Nov 24 2012, 11:01 PM
- - Cshel86   Why is Guerrero able to get away with all of this ...   Nov 24 2012, 11:02 PM
- - Cheesey1   Berto. It's not looking good (especially with...   Nov 24 2012, 11:03 PM
- - Plah   Berto getting bullied hard... weird fight.   Nov 24 2012, 11:07 PM
- - Cshel86   Guerrero is fighting like a little bitch with all ...   Nov 24 2012, 11:07 PM
- - BigFightFan   Berto needs to create space if he wants to win   Nov 24 2012, 11:09 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (BigFightFan @ Nov 24 2012, 11:09 P...   Nov 24 2012, 11:17 PM
- - Cshel86   Funny how Robert is backing up since Berto's l...   Nov 24 2012, 11:11 PM
- - Cshel86   Guerrero's NOT taking advantage of the present...   Nov 24 2012, 11:14 PM
|- - Plah   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 25 2012, 12:14 AM) G...   Nov 24 2012, 11:16 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Plah @ Nov 24 2012, 11:16 PM) Ref ...   Nov 24 2012, 11:17 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 24 2012, 11:17 PM) I...   Nov 24 2012, 11:44 PM
- - BigFightFan   This ref needs to retire ASAP   Nov 24 2012, 11:16 PM
- - Cshel86   Guerrero aint SHIT without that left hand, he look...   Nov 24 2012, 11:20 PM
- - Cshel86   Damn...round 7 was not for children. Good round ...   Nov 24 2012, 11:23 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 24 2012, 11:23 PM) D...   Nov 24 2012, 11:24 PM
- - Cheesey1   Damn, what a round.   Nov 24 2012, 11:23 PM
- - Gambit808   What a fight!   Nov 24 2012, 11:24 PM
- - Cshel86   How do you have a guy in front of you with one eye...   Nov 24 2012, 11:28 PM
- - leonthegee   Berto doesn't realize Guerreros a southpaw. He...   Nov 24 2012, 11:28 PM
- - Cshel86   Both guys cant see out of their right eyes...what ...   Nov 24 2012, 11:33 PM
- - Cheesey1   Credit to Berto. If he hadn't suffered the kn...   Nov 24 2012, 11:33 PM
- - leonthegee   I'm in love with Broners bitch.   Nov 24 2012, 11:40 PM
- - Cshel86   Guerrero cant possibly think that he's gonna p...   Nov 24 2012, 11:40 PM
|- - BigFightFan   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 24 2012, 11:40 PM) G...   Nov 24 2012, 11:45 PM
- - Gambit808   Now I know what a black Asian looks like looking a...   Nov 24 2012, 11:41 PM
- - Genius   POS ref!!!   Nov 24 2012, 11:43 PM
- - Cshel86   How many muthafuckkin' times were they gonna l...   Nov 24 2012, 11:44 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 24 2012, 11:44 PM) H...   Nov 24 2012, 11:47 PM
||- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Nov 24 2012, 11:47 PM) ...   Nov 24 2012, 11:51 PM
|||- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 24 2012, 11:51 PM) G...   Nov 24 2012, 11:57 PM
|||- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Nov 24 2012, 11:57 PM) ...   Nov 25 2012, 12:00 AM
|||- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 25 2012, 12:00 AM) I...   Nov 25 2012, 12:11 AM
||- - BigFightFan   QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Nov 24 2012, 11:47 PM) ...   Nov 24 2012, 11:56 PM
|- - Jack 1000   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 24 2012, 10:44 PM) H...   Nov 25 2012, 02:29 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Nov 25 2012, 02:29 PM)...   Nov 25 2012, 02:39 PM
- - Cshel86   Please give both of these motherfuckers a pair of ...   Nov 24 2012, 11:47 PM
- - KOpower   The amount of late shots Guerro took was sickening...   Nov 24 2012, 11:48 PM
- - KOpower   The official was terrible. Guerro was fighting ext...   Nov 24 2012, 11:53 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (KOpower @ Nov 24 2012, 11:53 PM) T...   Nov 24 2012, 11:54 PM
- - VJones   Every time I see, hear, or read about Robert Guerr...   Nov 25 2012, 12:04 AM
- - The Original MrFactor   GREAT FIGHT... The ref was a real dumbass. The end...   Nov 25 2012, 12:06 AM
- - Franchize   Not trying to be a hater but I didnt see anything ...   Nov 25 2012, 01:41 AM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Franchize @ Nov 25 2012, 01:41 AM)...   Nov 25 2012, 09:38 AM
|- - Jack 1000   QUOTE (Franchize @ Nov 25 2012, 12:41 AM)...   Nov 25 2012, 02:37 PM
- - Franchize   LMAO at Broner saying "you can put me butt na...   Nov 25 2012, 01:49 AM
- - mitukczuk   Damn, it seems like I missed out on a LOT ! Go...   Nov 25 2012, 06:57 AM
- - Jovi   I couldn't even be happy for Guerrero winning,...   Nov 25 2012, 11:26 AM
- - mitukczuk   I have just started watching the fight...1st round...   Nov 25 2012, 11:52 AM
- - BoxingFan86   How were the 2 knockdowns not illegal? I mean, bot...   Nov 25 2012, 01:06 PM
- - Gambit808   Ya know after this FOTY canidate, just like Ortiz,...   Nov 25 2012, 01:31 PM
- - Cshel86   I have yet to go back and watch the fight (while s...   Nov 25 2012, 02:19 PM
- - Genius   Like to see Berto get with Cottos trainer....he ne...   Nov 25 2012, 02:26 PM
- - daprofessor   the ref really ruined that fight for me. his stern...   Nov 25 2012, 03:02 PM
|- - Franchize   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 25 2012, 03:02 P...   Nov 26 2012, 06:20 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Franchize @ Nov 26 2012, 07:20 PM)...   Nov 26 2012, 07:41 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 25 2012, 03:02 P...   Nov 26 2012, 03:09 PM
|- - BoxingFan86   QUOTE (checkleft @ Nov 26 2012, 03:09 PM)...   Nov 26 2012, 05:44 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (checkleft @ Nov 26 2012, 04:09 PM)...   Nov 26 2012, 07:33 PM
- - neophyte7   Berto needs Floyd Sr.. period...   Nov 26 2012, 05:56 PM
- - flazi   we all knew berto is chiny in the first few rounds...   Nov 26 2012, 06:39 PM
|- - Franchize   QUOTE (flazi @ Nov 26 2012, 06:39 PM) we ...   Nov 26 2012, 06:52 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 26 2012, 07:33 P...   Nov 26 2012, 08:48 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (checkleft @ Nov 26 2012, 09:48 PM)...   Nov 26 2012, 09:25 PM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (checkleft @ Nov 26 2012, 08:48 PM)...   Nov 26 2012, 09:46 PM
|- - Franchize   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 26 2012, 09:46 PM) S...   Nov 27 2012, 09:26 AM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Franchize @ Nov 27 2012, 09:26 AM)...   Nov 27 2012, 11:46 AM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 26 2012, 09:25 P...   Nov 26 2012, 10:23 PM
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