Nov 25 2012, 06:34 PM
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Super Featherweight Group: Members Posts: 666 Joined: 21-July 09 From: ontario, california -----------> Big Spring, Texas Member No.: 10,401 |
(Admin note: Thanks for poll! The multiple answer option was selected which would have enabled uses to vote both YES and NO. Which wouldn't make sense for this excellent question. Intent I am sure was to select one response, that Guerrero has done enough OR needs to beat a top five welterweight. The poll answering has been changed to allow only one response.)
For almost all poll questions, where you want only one response to show, don't check the Multiple-Choice check box.) Personally I don't want to see this matchup. However I think if you add Guerreros story plus Floyd's mouth it equals a million PPVs. I think Guerrero could be marketable. As I said before he has a great story, plus he's Mexican American, he speaks perfect English, and is a handsome dude, no homo. You could stick him on ESPN with Skip and Steven A., ala Manny and JMM, and make his story national. I think Floyd would have to play the angry black man but it could work. Your thoughts? |
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Nov 28 2012, 02:11 PM
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Lightweight Group: Members Posts: 781 Joined: 14-July 11 Member No.: 12,788 |
i think cotto gave floyd the toughest fight in his career period. trout brings nothing to the table that cotto hasn't seen or dealt with. he hasn't really taken any beatings since the pac fight...i think he should beat trout. You don't even have to imply its your opinion, since Floyd stated it himself. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) difficulty is probably too strong a word...but southpaws definitely make him uncomfortable and have landed good shots on him. *see demarcus corley, zab judah and ortiz before the headbutt.* guerrero will definitely slide a few shots in on floyd and he will bang that fragile rib cage. For most fighters it's real easy to jump to conclusions on them (like after watching one fight or two), but when it comes to Floyd, it takes a lot of research to jump to conclusions on him, dude is way too complex of a fighter. People find it evident, but I don't think there's enough evidence to completely say he struggles against southpaws. He's practically dominated every single one he's fought, actually knocking out some of them, while only falling short to knocking out the others (A funny "fun fact" is that the second opponent of Floyd's career, though only evident of 4 rounds, was also a southpaw, who being a total bum, did better than all the rest). Some of the southpaws did land some good shots, Corley landing the most effective shot anyone ever has, arguably between Shane Mosley. Corley is also not even the best southpaw Floyd has fought, not even close. There's too many variables involved to conclude on this "myth" of Floyd vs southpaws. Of course Guerrero is going to get at least one good shot in, just like most of Floyd's other opponents. it wasn't just zab. it was the spadafora sparring...his pops making the same admission and stating that floyd should avoid southpaws at all costs...corley...and even ortiz. Floyd Sr. really thinks so? Roger thinks it's bullshit, and I don't know what Jeff thinks. he packed the house in san jose and out in ontario. if the fight is in vegas...he has plenty of fans that will make the trip from the bay and socal. i actually think robert has more fans than ortiz who is a transplant while guerrero is a local boy. Guerrero definitely has charisma. He should be able to sell better than Ortiz. I also think there was more hype about Berto/Guerrero than Berto/Ortiz. |
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Nov 28 2012, 06:46 PM
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Light Heavyweight Group: Members Posts: 4,146 Joined: 20-May 11 From: killa kali Member No.: 12,336 |
You don't even have to imply its your opinion, since Floyd stated it himself. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) For most fighters it's real easy to jump to conclusions on them (like after watching one fight or two), but when it comes to Floyd, it takes a lot of research to jump to conclusions on him, dude is way too complex of a fighter. People find it evident, but I don't think there's enough evidence to completely say he struggles against southpaws. He's practically dominated every single one he's fought, actually knocking out some of them, while only falling short to knocking out the others (A funny "fun fact" is that the second opponent of Floyd's career, though only evident of 4 rounds, was also a southpaw, who being a total bum, did better than all the rest). Some of the southpaws did land some good shots, Corley landing the most effective shot anyone ever has, arguably between Shane Mosley. Corley is also not even the best southpaw Floyd has fought, not even close. There's too many variables involved to conclude on this "myth" of Floyd vs southpaws. Of course Guerrero is going to get at least one good shot in, just like most of Floyd's other opponents. Floyd Sr. really thinks so? Roger thinks it's bullshit, and I don't know what Jeff thinks. Guerrero definitely has charisma. He should be able to sell better than Ortiz. I also think there was more hype about Berto/Guerrero than Berto/Ortiz. i agree...but when u take into consideration the amount of orthodox fighters who gave him no problems...compared to the very few southpaw fighters who gave him some problems...it's the closest thing u can call a pattern. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) i wouldn't call it a myth. i think guerrero will get in a lot more than just one good shot. look for this fight to be announced right around the same time as the pac/jmm4 fight. yes...floyd sr has stated that in the past. roger is going to go along with whatever floyd wants. floyd sr is the best boxing mind of the 3 brothers. i agree on guerrero's charisma. |
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leonthegee Poll bitches: Do you think Guerrero deserves a shot at Floyd? Nov 25 2012, 06:34 PM
mgrover easily marketable, Robo could go on about how you ... Nov 25 2012, 06:40 PM
leonthegee QUOTE (mgrover @ Nov 25 2012, 04:40 PM) e... Nov 25 2012, 06:55 PM
p4pcrown First Guerrero calls out Mayweather then Broner th... Nov 25 2012, 07:00 PM
BigFightFan QUOTE (p4pcrown @ Nov 25 2012, 07:00 PM) ... Nov 25 2012, 08:00 PM
Genius Guerrero should fight Paulie next, collect that tr... Nov 25 2012, 11:22 PM
Jack 1000 Not yet,
Robert needs one more fight with a top W... Nov 25 2012, 11:56 PM
BoxingStill#1 A couple names come to mind before Floyed looks hi... Nov 26 2012, 12:36 AM
checkleft QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Nov 25 2012, 11:56 PM)... Nov 26 2012, 01:11 AM
Cshel86 All of the fights that Robert seemed to avoid/bypa... Nov 26 2012, 07:49 AM
leonthegee QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 26 2012, 05:49 AM) A... Nov 26 2012, 07:58 AM
Cshel86 QUOTE (leonthegee @ Nov 26 2012, 07:58 AM... Nov 26 2012, 01:09 PM
Plah Not yet. He has to beat at least 2 of the followin... Nov 26 2012, 10:04 AM
daprofessor give guerrero his shot. i don't hear too many ... Nov 26 2012, 12:31 PM
Plah QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 26 2012, 01:31 P... Nov 26 2012, 12:54 PM

daprofessor QUOTE (Plah @ Nov 26 2012, 01:54 PM) A be... Nov 26 2012, 01:59 PM

p4pcrown QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 26 2012, 01:59 P... Nov 27 2012, 12:00 AM

daprofessor QUOTE (p4pcrown @ Nov 27 2012, 01:00 AM) ... Nov 27 2012, 02:08 PM
Franchize QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 26 2012, 12:31 P... Nov 26 2012, 06:28 PM
Franchize QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 26 2012, 12:31 P... Nov 26 2012, 06:33 PM
daprofessor QUOTE (Franchize @ Nov 26 2012, 07:33 PM)... Nov 26 2012, 07:51 PM
sduck QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 26 2012, 07:51 P... Nov 28 2012, 12:23 PM
daprofessor QUOTE (sduck @ Nov 28 2012, 01:23 PM) I h... Nov 28 2012, 01:20 PM
checkleft QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 26 2012, 01:59 P... Nov 26 2012, 02:53 PM
Marcus Mayweather-Guerrero:
-Interesting 24/7 as aforem... Nov 26 2012, 04:40 PM
The Original MrFactor QUOTE (Marcus @ Nov 26 2012, 04:40 PM) Ma... Nov 27 2012, 05:59 AM
BoxingFan86 As someone mentioned earlier, Floyd wouldn't a... Nov 26 2012, 06:13 PM
Cshel86 QUOTE (Marcus @ Nov 26 2012, 04:40 PM) Ma... Nov 26 2012, 09:25 PM
Marcus QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 26 2012, 09:25 PM) ... Nov 26 2012, 11:11 PM
Cshel86 QUOTE (Marcus @ Nov 26 2012, 11:11 PM) I ... Nov 27 2012, 09:13 AM
Franchize In my opinion, when you are a top tier fighter, yo... Nov 27 2012, 09:22 AM
Jovi Ahh i didn't think it would be true but now Ma... Nov 27 2012, 08:05 PM
daprofessor QUOTE (Jovi @ Nov 27 2012, 09:05 PM) Ahh ... Nov 27 2012, 08:53 PM
The Original MrFactor QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 27 2012, 08:53 P... Nov 28 2012, 12:29 AM
daprofessor QUOTE (The Original MrFactor @ Nov 28 2012, 0... Nov 28 2012, 01:17 PM
sduck Not saying he should get it, but yes I do think he... Nov 28 2012, 12:16 PM
Cshel86 QUOTE (sduck @ Nov 28 2012, 12:16 PM) I a... Nov 28 2012, 01:11 PM
daprofessor QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 28 2012, 02:11 PM) H... Nov 28 2012, 01:24 PM
Cshel86 QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 28 2012, 01:24 P... Nov 28 2012, 01:42 PM
daprofessor QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 28 2012, 02:42 PM) I... Nov 28 2012, 01:56 PM
sduck QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 28 2012, 01:42 PM) I... Nov 28 2012, 02:20 PM
Cshel86 QUOTE (sduck @ Nov 28 2012, 02:20 PM) Wel... Nov 28 2012, 02:47 PM

sduck QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 28 2012, 02:47 PM) S... Nov 28 2012, 04:04 PM


Cshel86 You made some decent points, but seriously, people... Nov 28 2012, 06:38 PM


Jack 1000 QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 28 2012, 05:38 PM) Y... Nov 29 2012, 01:41 AM

daprofessor QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 28 2012, 03:47 PM) S... Nov 28 2012, 07:01 PM
daprofessor QUOTE (sduck @ Nov 28 2012, 03:20 PM) Wel... Nov 28 2012, 06:54 PM
Plah People say that (southpaw thing)because Judah made... Nov 28 2012, 12:35 PM
daprofessor QUOTE (Plah @ Nov 28 2012, 01:35 PM) Peop... Nov 28 2012, 01:22 PM
gcarroll QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 28 2012, 10:24 A... Nov 28 2012, 07:30 PM
daprofessor QUOTE (gcarroll @ Nov 28 2012, 08:30 PM) ... Nov 28 2012, 08:02 PM
Cshel86 QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 28 2012, 07:01 P... Nov 29 2012, 01:07 PM
daprofessor QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 29 2012, 02:07 PM) I... Nov 29 2012, 08:35 PM
checkleft QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 29 2012, 01:07 PM) I... Nov 29 2012, 01:11 PM
daprofessor QUOTE (checkleft @ Nov 29 2012, 02:11 PM)... Nov 29 2012, 08:37 PM
sduck lol i wonder if cshel ever gave a fighter a chance Nov 29 2012, 05:37 PM
BrutUalBK It seems that if Ortiz was able to earn a shot at ... Nov 29 2012, 07:41 PM
Cshel86 QUOTE (sduck @ Nov 29 2012, 05:37 PM) lol... Nov 29 2012, 09:50 PM![]() ![]() |
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