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Cshel86
post Nov 28 2012, 10:06 AM
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http://www.fighthype.com/news/article13672.html

I love to hear what trainers have to say about other fighters and their corners...this interview is spot on! Bashir talks about Banks's won over Seth Mitchell, and how Mitchell's fight game is flawed, as well as his corner. Good stuff.

He also went into to detail about Berto's career, that ugly shoulder roll, that weak game plan, and his corner...which I found very interesting. We haven't heard much from Berto or his people since the fight, and Bashir made a GREAT point about him simply needing to fire the whole freakin' squad of ass clowns who are ruining him.

Good read!
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post Nov 28 2012, 01:25 PM
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Well it's typical stuff in the business, like failed strategies/opportunities. Fighters like Berto and Mitchell are just a classic case of promoted/hyped up fighters who don't have it. Trainers can make a difference, but honestly, for most fighters it won't make a big difference, if any at all.
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post Nov 28 2012, 01:58 PM
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QUOTE (sduck @ Nov 28 2012, 01:25 PM) *
Well it's typical stuff in the business, like failed strategies/opportunities. Fighters like Berto and Mitchell are just a classic case of promoted/hyped up fighters who don't have it. Trainers can make a difference, but honestly, for most fighters it won't make a big difference, if any at all.

I agree with the failed strategies/opportunities...it happens. Honestly, I'm tired of the whole football player-turned- boxer mess as well (in Seth's case), but I'd be lying if I said that he isn't a reason that my interest is gravitating back to HW boxing.

He and Berto are limited in some areas...my belief is that Seth is limited, and Berto knows more, but chooses not to utilize it for some odd reason (like Maidana). One thing's for sure, ALL fighters are offensive and would LOVE to be the one landing the punches, and not the guy on the receiving end.

Anyhow, ANYBODY can focus just on offense, but brush defense off. Besides, how much defense do you truly need, if you're the one punching/knocking out everyone in front of you? Berto and Mitchell need to learn some defense and be taught more ring intelligence. It's painfully obvious that neither of them are comfortable in every inch of the ring.

Their chins are the probably, but learning defense and ring intelligence can keep them out of the Glass Chin Squad until further notice.
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post Nov 28 2012, 02:03 PM
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QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 28 2012, 02:58 PM) *
I agree with the failed strategies/opportunities...it happens. Honestly, I'm tired of the whole football player-turned- boxer mess as well (in Seth's case), but I'd be lying if I said that he isn't a reason that my interest is gravitating back to HW boxing.

He and Berto are limited in some areas...my belief is that Seth is limited, and Berto knows more, but chooses not to utilize it for some odd reason (like Maidana). One thing's for sure, ALL fighters are offensive and would LOVE to be the one landing the punches, and not the guy on the receiving end.

Anyhow, ANYBODY can focus just on offense, but brush defense off. Besides, how much defense do you truly need, if you're the one punching/knocking out everyone in front of you? Berto and Mitchell need to learn some defense and be taught more ring intelligence. It's painfully obvious that neither of them are comfortable in every inch of the ring.

Their chins are the probably, but learning defense and ring intelligence can keep them out of the Glass Chin Squad until further notice.


don't give up just yet. there are two ex-football players on the horizon who i believe will be making serious noise in the future. dominic brazealle and gerald washington. dominic was a quarterback for colorado and gerald played for usc. these guys are serious students of the game and have been developing well imo. give them a couple of years...and they both will be threats. they're both 6'5-6'6 and about 230-250. very athletic boxers.
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post Nov 28 2012, 02:28 PM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 28 2012, 02:03 PM) *
don't give up just yet. there are two ex-football players on the horizon who i believe will be making serious noise in the future. dominic brazealle and gerald washington. dominic was a quarterback for colorado and gerald played for usc. these guys are serious students of the game and have been developing well imo. give them a couple of years...and they both will be threats. they're both 6'5-6'6 and about 230-250. very athletic boxers.

What ever happened to that cat that played for the Ravens? Last i heard of him, was on that crappy Cotto/Mayorga undercard that I bought. He was pretty good, but got busted with weed, and I haven't heard much from him since.

I think I have my reservations about the ex-football player stuff, because of the whole muscle factor. As we all know, muscles are oxygen eaters, and these dudes had to have enough muscle to compete on the football field, so them fairing well in boxing has always been a bit edgy to me. Just my thoughts though.

As for Berto, dude has NO LEGS. As soon as he gets backed onto the ropes, you can forget it. Dude's feet were off the canvas all night was week...dude was a ballerina on his tippy toes all night. Looks like him and Guerrero dancing at a prom at one point...Berto's feet were all over the place. Lol
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- Cshel86   Ali Bashir Spits the Real....   Nov 28 2012, 10:06 AM
- - Franchize   Mitchell should have known better than to have Unc...   Nov 28 2012, 10:18 AM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Franchize @ Nov 28 2012, 10:18 AM)...   Nov 28 2012, 10:37 AM
- - sduck   Well it's typical stuff in the business, like ...   Nov 28 2012, 01:25 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (sduck @ Nov 28 2012, 02:25 PM) Wel...   Nov 28 2012, 01:48 PM
||- - BigFightFan   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 28 2012, 01:48 P...   Nov 28 2012, 02:13 PM
|||- - daprofessor   QUOTE (BigFightFan @ Nov 28 2012, 03:13 P...   Nov 28 2012, 02:53 PM
||- - sduck   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 28 2012, 01:48 P...   Nov 28 2012, 02:44 PM
||- - daprofessor   QUOTE (sduck @ Nov 28 2012, 03:44 PM) I w...   Nov 28 2012, 02:55 PM
||- - sduck   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 28 2012, 02:55 P...   Nov 28 2012, 03:11 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (sduck @ Nov 28 2012, 01:25 PM) Wel...   Nov 28 2012, 01:58 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 28 2012, 02:58 PM) I...   Nov 28 2012, 02:03 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 28 2012, 02:03 P...   Nov 28 2012, 02:28 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 28 2012, 02:03 P...   Nov 28 2012, 03:05 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (checkleft @ Nov 28 2012, 04:05 PM)...   Nov 28 2012, 08:14 PM
- - Gambit808   Definitely a good read! How is it that, the c...   Nov 28 2012, 06:34 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Gambit808 @ Nov 28 2012, 06:34 PM)...   Nov 28 2012, 06:44 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 28 2012, 07:44 PM) T...   Nov 28 2012, 08:20 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 28 2012, 08:20 P...   Nov 28 2012, 08:54 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 28 2012, 09:54 PM) Y...   Nov 28 2012, 09:17 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 28 2012, 09:17 P...   Nov 28 2012, 09:34 PM
- - Cheesey1   I agree with the argument that a skilled trainer, ...   Nov 28 2012, 08:23 PM
- - Cheesey1   Boxers can take beatings and come back. As mentio...   Nov 28 2012, 09:25 PM


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