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daprofessor
post Nov 28 2012, 09:17 PM
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QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 28 2012, 09:54 PM) *
You don't believe that he beat himself, in a few ways?

I always knew that Berto would be a gate keeper in the sport, and yes, he still has some money fights left in him, if he's able to keep himself composed in his upcoming. Those beatings over several rounds DO put miles on a fighter....ask Hatton about the Floyd fight.


whether he beat himself is besides the point...he took a beating more than once and that can't be undone. he obviously learned absolutely nothing from the first beating. so in that regard...yeah, he beat himself. he needs a good break...and some serious re-tooling. he'll have to get rid of his trainer and bring in someone far more experienced with more understanding. i can see him making money...but they would have to give him serious favorable treatment to bring him back to get where he was before. he doesn't have the right promoter or ppl behind him to make that happen.

hatton was taking beatings before the floyd fight. floyd definitely put a serious dent in him...and pacquiao put the final nail in the coffin. he's another guy who learned absolutely nothing from his losses. it's really kind of sad to see the train wrecks. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Nov 28 2012, 09:25 PM
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Boxers can take beatings and come back. As mentioned already, the question is do they learn from the beating and how strong are they psychologically.

Nonetheless, as I said, without those two knockdowns, by no means was it a cake walk for Guerrero. I'd love to see a rematch.
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post Nov 28 2012, 09:34 PM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 28 2012, 09:17 PM) *
whether he beat himself is besides the point...he took a beating more than once and that can't be undone. he obviously learned absolutely nothing from the first beating. so in that regard...yeah, he beat himself. he needs a good break...and some serious re-tooling. he'll have to get rid of his trainer and bring in someone far more experienced with more understanding. i can see him making money...but they would have to give him serious favorable treatment to bring him back to get where he was before. he doesn't have the right promoter or ppl behind him to make that happen.

hatton was taking beatings before the floyd fight. floyd definitely put a serious dent in him...and pacquiao put the final nail in the coffin. he's another guy who learned absolutely nothing from his losses. it's really kind of sad to see the train wrecks. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Sadly, he's had long enough of a break since the injury and PED mess, so a break's out the window. He has the PERFECT promoter and manager...hence how he made $1.6M after an injury, PED incident, and a long layoff...so the pay is always possible. Im sure a few fighters wouldn't mind taking a pay cut, in order to own the rights to beat him...while he still has a bit of spark left.

Hatton took a beating against Collazo of course, but Floyd put it on him and finished him. Pacquiao's massacre beating didn't make matters any better, lol. Hatton's had his huge paydays (unlike Berto), so Berto will more than likely fight to be sure that he secures a few more good paydays. Hatton can thank his fan base for making sure that he got his last few paydays.
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