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[daprofessor]

there is a lot of talk going around about the possibility of jmm being on something....and him doing something he couldn't do in the previous 3 fights.

let's get it straight once and for all...

pac's own aggression did him in! go back and watch that video.

with the first knock down...jmm did a brilliant job of setting up the overhand right by throwing the left hook to the body. he landed a few times on pac to set the pattern. as jmm stepped in he motioned as if he was going for that same hook and instead delivered the overhand right which pac did not anticipate. anyone who knows boxing will tell you...IT'S THE SHOT YOU DON'T SEE COMING THAT HURTS U THE MOST!!!! and pac did not see that overhand right coming. it appeared to land on the temple. if you go back and watch their previous fights....jmm landed that shot before and it wobbled pac. factor in age...and wear and tear...and u have an explanation for the knockdown.

the KO...

pac was coming on after the knock down...and jmm was reeling a bit. the momentum shifted in pac's favor and he got more confident, aggressive and careless. as in previous bouts....jmm attacked...then retreated...drawing pac in during the final seconds of the round. pac lunged in aggressively with a jab and jmm timed him perfectly by sliding his head to the left and delivering an overhand right that was short and very compact. BOOM!!! LIGHTS OUT!!!!

pac outweighed jmm

pac was supposed to be the bigger puncher

jmm was not trying to box and score points in this fight.

he was going for the ko...it's that simple.

he had a much more aggressive stance in this fight.

a simple change in stance can be the difference between a scoring blow...and one that puts u to sleep.

This post has been edited by daprofessor: Dec 11 2012, 07:52 PM

[daprofessor]

there are definitely accusations flying around...and i don't believe them for a second. just like i didn't believe them when they were hurled at pac.

in pac's situation i believe there were other factors at work that made him look invincible. i've gone over these several times in other posts on other forums and was viciously attacked and banned for saying it. ppl have very little understanding when it comes to these things and there are plenty of ways of making a guy look invincible when u are in the drivers seat.

1. selective matchmaking- picking opponents who are shop worn or have come off of recent beat downs and are just diminished enough to look good...but not too good.

2. weight drain game- make sure that said fighter has to struggle to make weight therefore...he has a fight before the fight. it's no secret that dehydration severely diminishes an athlete.

3. non-disclosed contractual stipulations- now this is speculation on my part...but i've seen evidence of it. i believe that pac's opponents have had restrictions placed upon them for re-hydration. no one has openly admitted to it, but all the signs are there.

4. trainer issues- i don't know if it was by design...or it just worked in their favor but dlh, hatton, cotto, clottey and margarito all had new trainers or were having issues with their trainers at the time pac fought them. just coincidence? who knows.

5. having access to your opponents training footage. i won't mention where i heard it...but i heard it.

when all things were equal...and none of the above mentioned things came into play, pac looked very ordinary.

This post has been edited by daprofessor: Dec 13 2012, 03:17 PM

[Tha Docta]

there are definitely accusations flying around...and i don't believe them for a second. just like i didn't believe them when they were hurled at pac.

in pac's situation i believe there were other factors at work that made him look invincible. i've gone over these several times in other posts on other forums and was viciously attacked and banned for saying it. ppl have very little understanding when it comes to these things and there are plenty of ways of making a guy look invincible when u are in the drivers seat.

1. selective matchmaking- picking opponents who are shop worn or have come off of recent beat downs and are just diminished enough to look good...but not too good.

2. weight drain game- make sure that said fighter has to struggle to make weight therefore...he has a fight before the fight. it's no secret that dehydration severely diminishes an athlete.

3. non-disclosed contractual stipulations- now this is speculation on my part...but i've seen evidence of it. i believe that pac's opponents have had restrictions placed upon them for re-hydration. no one has openly admitted to it, but all the signs are there.

4. trainer issues- i don't know if it was by design...or it just worked in their favor but dlh, hatton, cotto, clottey and margarito all had new trainers or were having issues with their trainers at the time pac fought them. just coincidence? who knows.

5. having access to your opponents training footage. i won't mention where i heard it...but i heard it.

when all things were equal...and none of the above mentioned things came into play, pac looked very ordinary.

I understand people not liking manny because of his obsessive fans, but to call him an ordinary fighter just makes you look like you are not a knowledgeable fan. anybodies resume can be completely dissected if you want to pick it apart. and that goes for the best fighters of all time. the guy is a no doubt HOF fighter. dont let your hatred for his fans cloud your judgement.

[daprofessor]

I understand people not liking manny because of his obsessive fans, but to call him an ordinary fighter just makes you look like you are not a knowledgeable fan. anybodies resume can be completely dissected if you want to pick it apart. and that goes for the best fighters of all time. the guy is a no doubt HOF fighter. dont let your hatred for his fans cloud your judgement.

looking ordinary against great fighters like marquez and bradley isn't the same as calling him ordinary. i take nothing from manny. the guy we saw in there with morales, barrera, marquez...etc...is far from ordinary.

he looked extraordinary against hatton, dlh, cotto and margarito for all the reasons i stated. i'm just calling it like i see it. i don't hate his fans. i get their fanaticism.