Dec 22 2012, 12:09 PM
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Featherweight Group: Members Posts: 546 Joined: 20-June 12 From: Texas Member No.: 13,708 |
I know everyone saw the first fight and has already made up in their minds that JMM wouldn't stand much of a chance but you have to consider all of these factors before rushing to judgment based on their previous bout:
1. Floyd moved around using his legs throughout most of the fight and is now older and tends to stay in the pocket and take more punches as a result of it. 2. Floyd is older, yeah, I know so is Marquez but inactivity by Mayweather could affect his timing and it appears to me that he is missing a lot of punches that he used to land with ease before he started taking longer breaks in between fights since getting older, plus with JMM's effective counterpunching, increased speed and power it probably wouldn't take as much to at least knock Floyd down. 3. JMM has trained correctly and it showed in his last fight and he will not be grossly outweighed like he was in their first bout. 4. I think JMM has proven now that he has the power to KO anyone at WW so he may have a slight punching power advantage over FMJr even at his advanced age. 5. Confidence (not Overconfidence), well we know who's confidence is riding higher now. JMM can go into the rematch thinking to himself "I faced the man some people said that you've been ducking for years", so with this it runs in his favor but wait, Floyd does have the win over him and is undefeated, younger, taller and the P4P Champion. Now, I'm not saying that JMM wins in a rematch but I think he fairs far better than the first bout so don't shoot me too full of holes for suggesting this idea that he does fair better. lol Your thoughts??? This post has been edited by BrutUalBK: Dec 22 2012, 12:16 PM |
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Dec 26 2012, 07:28 AM
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Super Bantamweight Group: Moderators Posts: 464 Joined: 30-September 11 Member No.: 13,282 |
I would love to see this fight. I'm a huge fan of JMM, steroids or not, because he's an exquisite boxer with an aggressive persona. There's nothing I love watching more than an aggressive counterpuncher/technician going to work.
I believe a fight like this would net JMM anywhere from $8 MM - $12 MM when you consider PPV proceeds, etc. However, as has been the case for years, I only have 2 words to dash our hopes for this fight. Bob. Arum. |
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Dec 26 2012, 08:44 AM
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Featherweight Group: Members Posts: 546 Joined: 20-June 12 From: Texas Member No.: 13,708 |
I would love to see this fight. I'm a huge fan of JMM, steroids or not, because he's an exquisite boxer with an aggressive persona. There's nothing I love watching more than an aggressive counterpuncher/technician going to work. I believe a fight like this would net JMM anywhere from $8 MM - $12 MM when you consider PPV proceeds, etc. However, as has been the case for years, I only have 2 words to dash our hopes for this fight. Bob. Arum. Bob Arum could care less about feeding the likes of JMM to the wolves, however he did an excellent job of protecting Manny from Floyd and in the process blew a 40 million dollar payday (I wonder how many fights it would take for Manny to earn that kind of money now). I'd still love to see Floyd tax that a$$ on Manny but even at this stage I still believe that Bob will not put him in the ring vs Floyd, what I think we'll see is Pac get a crack at the straight-forward style of guys like Rios to help build back up his reputation as some type of slugger (I never really saw him that way). If JMM does not get a shot at the likes of Floyd then obviously he should fish out a 5th fight with Manny if for nothing else except making more money this time around and cementing his dominance with another rousing KO to seal the deal. At this point JMM is a bonafide Superstar on par with Manny and just under Floyd and at the very least then he and Bradley should square off with the winner getting Floyd. |
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Dec 26 2012, 12:06 PM
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Welterweight Group: Members Posts: 1,516 Joined: 28-December 11 Member No.: 13,419 |
Bob Arum could care less about feeding the likes of JMM to the wolves, however he did an excellent job of protecting Manny from Floyd and in the process blew a 40 million dollar payday (I wonder how many fights it would take for Manny to earn that kind of money now). I'd still love to see Floyd tax that a$$ on Manny but even at this stage I still believe that Bob will not put him in the ring vs Floyd, what I think we'll see is Pac get a crack at the straight-forward style of guys like Rios to help build back up his reputation as some type of slugger (I never really saw him that way). If JMM does not get a shot at the likes of Floyd then obviously he should fish out a 5th fight with Manny if for nothing else except making more money this time around and cementing his dominance with another rousing KO to seal the deal. At this point JMM is a bonafide Superstar on par with Manny and just under Floyd and at the very least then he and Bradley should square off with the winner getting Floyd. I agree. Lets face it. Arum will never care for JMM like he does Manny. Ko or no KO, Marquez will never be the star Manny is. Arum would be far more willing to feed Marquez to the wolves than Manny. Lets face it. The real reason he had Manny fight JMM that many times is because the fight will always yield money but he never thought Marquez would knock Manny out like that. He probably thought, if anything, Marquez could outpoint Manny, in which he would have to then beat the judges. Arum isnt worried about Floyd BEATING Manny. He is worried about Floyd EMBARASSING Manny and making a gigantic, Arum free, pay day in the process. |
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BrutUalBK JMM vs Mayweather 2 Dec 22 2012, 12:09 PM
mitukczuk The thing is...there is no reason for a rematch. F... Dec 22 2012, 12:35 PM
BrutUalBK QUOTE (mitukczuk @ Dec 22 2012, 11:35 AM)... Dec 22 2012, 10:42 PM

Dolimite Marquez beat Pacquiao with one devastating counter... Dec 23 2012, 09:23 AM

Cshel86 QUOTE (Dolimite @ Dec 23 2012, 09:23 AM) ... Dec 23 2012, 09:02 PM


Dolimite QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Dec 23 2012, 06:02 PM) Y... Dec 23 2012, 09:38 PM


Franchize QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Dec 23 2012, 09:02 PM) Y... Dec 24 2012, 10:27 AM

BoxingFan86 QUOTE (Dolimite @ Dec 23 2012, 09:23 AM) ... Dec 26 2012, 01:57 AM
Franchize QUOTE (mitukczuk @ Dec 22 2012, 12:35 PM)... Dec 24 2012, 02:39 AM
mgrover I would be lying if i said i wouldn't like to ... Dec 22 2012, 01:49 PM
leonthegee Marquez still cant slip a left hook to save his li... Dec 22 2012, 02:00 PM
Cshel86 Fight 'em Floyd! To hell with Guerrero... Dec 22 2012, 02:36 PM
p4pcrown Different fight, same ending Dec 22 2012, 03:54 PM
Cshel86 Marquez DID just come off of the BIGGEST win of hi... Dec 22 2012, 08:34 PM
BoxingStill#1 Pacs style makes Marquez look real good..
Floyds ... Dec 22 2012, 09:11 PM
Kratza I think we all saw how slow Marquez was in the rin... Dec 24 2012, 07:56 AM
Cshel86 QUOTE (Dolimite @ Dec 23 2012, 09:38 PM) ... Dec 24 2012, 09:06 PM
daprofessor the rematch may be worse for marquez. he's slo... Dec 24 2012, 09:29 PM
Cshel86 QUOTE (daprofessor @ Dec 24 2012, 09:29 P... Dec 24 2012, 09:37 PM
Dolimite QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Dec 24 2012, 06:37 PM) H... Dec 24 2012, 10:57 PM

BrutUalBK QUOTE (Dolimite @ Dec 24 2012, 09:57 PM) ... Dec 24 2012, 11:32 PM
daprofessor QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Dec 24 2012, 09:37 PM) H... Dec 25 2012, 12:50 AM
Cshel86 QUOTE (daprofessor @ Dec 25 2012, 12:50 A... Dec 25 2012, 07:05 PM
Dolimite QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Dec 25 2012, 04:05 PM) I... Dec 25 2012, 09:45 PM
checkleft QUOTE (daprofessor @ Dec 25 2012, 01:50 A... Dec 25 2012, 02:03 AM
daprofessor QUOTE (checkleft @ Dec 25 2012, 03:03 AM)... Dec 25 2012, 05:04 AM
mgrover I'd Marquez to get the fight for a nice payday... Dec 25 2012, 07:54 AM
checkleft QUOTE (daprofessor @ Dec 25 2012, 06:04 A... Dec 26 2012, 02:44 AM
KOpower QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Dec 26 2012, 08:44 AM)... Dec 28 2012, 02:31 PM
daprofessor QUOTE (KOpower @ Dec 28 2012, 03:31 PM) M... Dec 28 2012, 03:40 PM

KOpower QUOTE (daprofessor @ Dec 28 2012, 03:40 P... Dec 28 2012, 04:39 PM

daprofessor QUOTE (KOpower @ Dec 28 2012, 05:39 PM) F... Dec 28 2012, 08:21 PM

Dolimite QUOTE (daprofessor @ Dec 28 2012, 05:21 P... Dec 29 2012, 01:35 AM

daprofessor QUOTE (Dolimite @ Dec 29 2012, 02:35 AM) ... Dec 29 2012, 03:16 AM
sduck Same fight, same results. Marquez himself said wei... Dec 28 2012, 04:35 PM
MaxPayne Guys, salient points, but riddle me this:
When is... Dec 26 2012, 12:10 PM
bnoles4life You know, I'm not throughly convinced JMM/Mann... Dec 26 2012, 08:00 PM
daprofessor QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Dec 26 2012, 09:00 P... Dec 27 2012, 03:34 AM
checkleft QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Dec 26 2012, 09:00 P... Dec 27 2012, 03:23 AM
Cshel86 QUOTE (Dolimite @ Dec 25 2012, 09:45 PM) ... Dec 27 2012, 01:28 PM
MaxPayne QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Dec 27 2012, 01:28 PM) I... Dec 27 2012, 10:27 PM
BrutUalBK QUOTE (MaxPayne @ Dec 27 2012, 09:27 PM) ... Dec 28 2012, 09:40 AM
wolterb I say he better not fight that fight and as an hon... Dec 27 2012, 08:28 PM
Dolimite QUOTE (wolterb @ Dec 27 2012, 05:28 PM) I... Dec 27 2012, 10:15 PM
wolterb QUOTE (Dolimite @ Dec 27 2012, 10:15 PM) ... Dec 28 2012, 08:53 AM
Franchize Normally, I'd say n way in hell because JMM is... Dec 28 2012, 07:22 AM
mgrover why would is Marquez still with top rank? I though... Dec 28 2012, 07:30 AM
Cshel86 QUOTE (MaxPayne @ Dec 27 2012, 10:27 PM) ... Dec 28 2012, 12:31 PM
daprofessor pac losing reduces payout for arum. reduced pay ou... Dec 28 2012, 01:12 PM
Hotsauce this fight would easily sell especially on cinco d... Dec 28 2012, 05:09 PM
Gambit808 Look I don't wanna be a buzz kill here, but th... Dec 28 2012, 06:49 PM
KOpower QUOTE (Gambit808 @ Dec 28 2012, 06:49 PM)... Dec 29 2012, 03:28 PM

Dolimite QUOTE (KOpower @ Dec 29 2012, 01:28 PM) W... Dec 29 2012, 05:09 PM


KOpower QUOTE (Dolimite @ Dec 29 2012, 05:09 PM) ... Dec 31 2012, 09:26 AM


aTYpicalTYrant QUOTE (KOpower @ Dec 31 2012, 09:26 AM) I... Dec 31 2012, 03:21 PM

daprofessor QUOTE (KOpower @ Dec 29 2012, 04:28 PM) W... Dec 29 2012, 06:28 PM

mgrover QUOTE (KOpower @ Dec 29 2012, 08:28 PM) W... Dec 29 2012, 08:05 PM


sduck QUOTE (mgrover @ Dec 29 2012, 08:05 PM) P... Dec 30 2012, 01:29 PM


mgrover QUOTE (sduck @ Dec 30 2012, 06:29 PM) I h... Dec 30 2012, 08:58 PM


Dolimite QUOTE (mgrover @ Dec 30 2012, 06:58 PM) f... Dec 30 2012, 11:42 PM

Gambit808 QUOTE (KOpower @ Dec 29 2012, 03:28 PM) W... Dec 30 2012, 12:59 AM

BoxingFan86 QUOTE (KOpower @ Dec 29 2012, 03:28 PM) W... Dec 31 2012, 04:58 AM
BrutUalBK QUOTE (Gambit808 @ Dec 28 2012, 05:49 PM)... Dec 30 2012, 08:04 PM
Gambit808 [quote name='BrutUalBK' date='Dec 30 2... Dec 31 2012, 01:28 AM
Cshel86 QUOTE (daprofessor @ Dec 28 2012, 01:12 P... Dec 29 2012, 02:54 PM
sduck No offense to KOpower, but I just want to say you ... Dec 30 2012, 01:04 PM
checkleft QUOTE (daprofessor @ Dec 29 2012, 07:28 P... Dec 31 2012, 01:31 AM
Franchize QUOTE (checkleft @ Dec 31 2012, 02:31 AM)... Dec 31 2012, 09:06 AM
checkleft QUOTE (KOpower @ Dec 31 2012, 10:26 AM) I... Dec 31 2012, 09:42 AM
KOpower QUOTE (checkleft @ Dec 31 2012, 09:42 AM)... Dec 31 2012, 09:55 AM
KOpower By the way, I still think this fight could and sho... Dec 31 2012, 09:59 AM
BrutUalBK QUOTE (KOpower @ Dec 31 2012, 08:59 AM) B... Jan 1 2013, 05:02 PM
neophyte7 It is hard to sell Pac being able to beat Mayweath... Dec 31 2012, 01:06 PM
BoxingFan86 QUOTE (KOpower @ Dec 31 2012, 09:26 AM) I... Dec 31 2012, 02:14 PM
checkleft QUOTE (KOpower @ Dec 31 2012, 10:55 AM) 1... Dec 31 2012, 04:23 PM
Cshel86 Mayweather vs Pacquiao talk?! Jan 1 2013, 07:57 PM
BoxingFan86 QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Jan 1 2013, 07:57 PM) Ma... Jan 1 2013, 08:11 PM![]() ![]() |
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