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[BrutUalBK]

I know everyone saw the first fight and has already made up in their minds that JMM wouldn't stand much of a chance but you have to consider all of these factors before rushing to judgment based on their previous bout:

1. Floyd moved around using his legs throughout most of the fight and is now older and tends to stay in the pocket and take more punches as a result of it.

2. Floyd is older, yeah, I know so is Marquez but inactivity by Mayweather could affect his timing and it appears to me that he is missing a lot of punches that he used to land with ease before he started taking longer breaks in between fights since getting older, plus with JMM's effective counterpunching, increased speed and power it probably wouldn't take as much to at least knock Floyd down.

3. JMM has trained correctly and it showed in his last fight and he will not be grossly outweighed like he was in their first bout.

4. I think JMM has proven now that he has the power to KO anyone at WW so he may have a slight punching power advantage over FMJr even at his advanced age.

5. Confidence (not Overconfidence), well we know who's confidence is riding higher now. JMM can go into the rematch thinking to himself "I faced the man some people said that you've been ducking for years", so with this it runs in his favor but wait, Floyd does have the win over him and is undefeated, younger, taller and the P4P Champion.

Now, I'm not saying that JMM wins in a rematch but I think he fairs far better than the first bout so don't shoot me too full of holes for suggesting this idea that he does fair better. lol

Your thoughts???

This post has been edited by BrutUalBK: Dec 22 2012, 12:16 PM

[Cshel86]

Bradley I can see but Paulie I rather not. That would be an utter massacre. Floyd would actually stand in front of Paulie and beat him senseless! Come on cousin, we want Paulie to have a commentating career after boxing. That fight would be a sacrifice and I am Floyd fan but I would have issues with him fighting Paulie. I would say Bradley I mean he is "undefeated." Actually I would love to see Mayweather fight Canelo to put an end to the hype that is Canelo. I just want to see way gay ass robe Canelo will be wearing to the fight. Floyd should ask for the Bradley fight let's face it Arum isn't really pro team Bradley so having Bradley taking a loss wouldn't be that big of a deal.

I was talking about Marquez going after that 5th title, by taking on Bradley or Paulie, if a Floyd rematch doesn't happen. The fact that he was thinking of fighting Paulie and Cintron (before picking JMM) after his first retirement, should help us to not rule it out so quick. Trust me, I dont wanna see it either.

PS: Those "Jafar from Aladdin" robes look cool on Canelo...he's the only one who can pull it off.

However, as has been the case for years, I only have 2 words to dash our hopes for this fight.

Bob. Arum.

Does Arum even have options on Marquez at this point? I thought it was 3-fight deal, or something like that. I know Marquez fought Pacquiao (3rd fight), Fedchenko, then Manny again. Before these fights took place, JMM was still fighting under Golden Boy? I need some clarity.

Maybe he signed a longer contract than I thought. Maybe Arum's got his hand up his ass and selling him a dream to stay with company and "promise" him a bigger payday for a 5th fight. Who knows. I need help here.

Floyd/JMM WOULD sell. Mexicans are bananas over that win. They'd market JMM as "revamped", "revitalized", etc. and (most importantly) conqueror of the guy Floyd wouldn't fight.

Couldn't agree more! Fans (especially casual ones) live in their mind and believe what they want to believe. As for Dec. 8th, I bet his fans think he has about 5 more years left under his belt, when really, he only has about two...tops. Lol

[MaxPayne]

I was talking about Marquez going after that 5th title, by taking on Bradley or Paulie, if a Floyd rematch doesn't happen. The fact that he was thinking of fighting Paulie and Cintron (before picking JMM) after his first retirement, should help us to not rule it out so quick. Trust me, I dont wanna see it either.

PS: Those "Jafar from Aladdin" robes look cool on Canelo...he's the only one who can pull it off.


Does Arum even have options on Marquez at this point? I thought it was 3-fight deal, or something like that. I know Marquez fought Pacquiao (3rd fight), Fedchenko, then Manny again. Before these fights took place, JMM was still fighting under Golden Boy? I need some clarity.

Maybe he signed a longer contract than I thought. Maybe Arum's got his hand up his ass and selling him a dream to stay with company and "promise" him a bigger payday for a 5th fight. Who knows. I need help here.


Couldn't agree more! Fans (especially casual ones) live in their mind and believe what they want to believe. As for Dec. 8th, I bet his fans think he has about 5 more years left under his belt, when really, he only has about two...tops. Lol

It's an excellent question about JMM's current contract status with Top Rank. I do remember him signing that 3 fight deal.

The thing is, Arum is usually great at covering his bases with stuff like this. I believe that since the 3rd Pacman - JMM fight, he's been in cash-out mode with regard to Manny.

Which means, that he would want to make sure that he had multiple fights left on the contracts of whoever was in line to fight Manny.

Bradley is locked down and isn't going anywhere. Rios is the same. I believe it's possible that a contract extension was carried out with JMM on the DL in advance to the 4th Pacman fight.

Remember, when Cotto was considering his options, it was pretty clear in the news that there was contract - related rumblings. We haven't heard anything similar for JMM.

If he was a promotional free agent, then I say bring it on and let's make this fight happen.

However, the very fact that Arum was quick to speak on a possible 5th Pacman fight tells me that he has a signed contract in his back pocket.

Sigh. Good men die young. Evil, slimy, wretched blood sucking parasites like Arum live forever it seems.