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[Jack 1000]

Celebrate the second big fight in a return to boxing on network TV, as NBC's main network presents a rematch of a great first fight! Adamek-Cunningham II! Keep all on-going and post-fight comments in this thread.

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[Cheesey1]

Close, but Cunningham won it. Judges will give their verdict now...

Well two of the judges saw it very differently than I did. To me, it was close, but Cunningham clearly won.


The opening match was good. Hamer should've gone with the strategy that Jennings described. Congrats to Glazkov.

This post has been edited by Cheesey1: Dec 23 2012, 02:52 PM

[VJones]

Wow...Adamek did not win that fight. I didn't score it, but in my mind, Cunningham was up by 2 or 3 rounds. It was a great fight until the judges got involved. Smh. USS fought a mostly smart fight. Steve's right couldn't seem to miss. Dbl jab right. When he did that and stayed in the middle of the ring, it was beautiful.

It wasn't the worst decision in the world, but a bad apple is a bad apple. And it potentially turns one guy's life upside down and robs him of his hard work, time, and future pay days. So any bad call is egregious in sport.

Favorite Bro. Naz liner, referring to Adamek trying to steal rounds in the last 30 seconds: "He can't beat you. He's shoplifting. Don't let him do it." Something to that effect =)

This post has been edited by VJones: Dec 22 2012, 06:31 PM

[Cheesey1]

Wow...Adamek did not win that fight. I didn't score it, but in my mind, Cunningham was up by 2 or 3 rounds. It was a great fight until the judges got involved. Smh. USS fought a mostly smart fight. Steve's right couldn't seem to miss. Dbl jab right. When he did that and stayed in the middle of the ring, it was beautiful.

It wasn't the worst decision in the world, but a bad apple is a bad apple. And it potentially turns one guy's life upside down and robs him of his hard work, time, and future pay days. So any bad call is egregious in sport.

Favorite Bro. Naz liner, referring to Adamek trying to steal rounds in the last 30 seconds: "He can't beat you. He's shoplifting. Don't let him do it." Something to that effect =)

Agreed about Cunningham/Adamek

I thought that Hamer just used the wrong strategy against a particular style of opponent and not that he doesn't have what it takes. Valid point though that if he really doesn't have what it takes, then no need to stick around. I think it might be worth him sticking around, but with a different corner.

[VJones]

Agreed about Cunningham/Adamek

I thought that Hamer just used the wrong strategy against a particular style of opponent and not that he doesn't have what it takes. Valid point though that if he really doesn't have what it takes, then no need to stick around. I think it might be worth him sticking around, but with a different corner.

I don't disagree really. But at 29 and with stamina issues...and still rather green in the sport, a different corner might help...but I get the feeling his heart just isn't in it.

I'm reminded of last weekend's epilogue in the Showtime All Access Cotto/Trout series. There's a wonderfully poignant moment when the camera catches Miguel Cotto's wife whispering to him: "I'm tired. This hurts me."

Cotto's emotional response: "It's the only thing I know. What else can I do?"

I think when you're getting pounded on for a living (especially as a heavyweight), a sense (a true conviction) that 'this is what I'm made to do'...and/or 'I have no other choice but to fight', is necessary. And so the background stories most often told in this brutal sport are stories like that of Miguel Cotto...a warrior with no other choices...men and women coming from nothing...knowing only how to claw, scrape, and fight their way out of poverty and adversity. And so, the 'fight' in them is innate. Heart comes with the territory. And brutality is as natural as skin.

Hamer is middle class, educated, ivy-league parents. It was almost comical watching him grimace and play at meanness before the fight began. =) I think his natural athleticism has taken him as far as he can go in boxing. Grit would be necessary to take him further...and he just doesn't seem to have it.

[Cheesey1]

I don't disagree really. But at 29 and with stamina issues...and still rather green in the sport, a different corner might help...but I get the feeling his heart just isn't in it.

I'm reminded of last weekend's epilogue in the Showtime All Access Cotto/Trout series. There's a wonderfully poignant moment when the camera catches Miguel Cotto's wife whispering to him: "I'm tired. This hurts me."

Cotto's emotional response: "It's the only thing I know. What else can I do?"

I think when you're getting pounded on for a living (especially as a heavyweight), a sense (a true conviction) that 'this is what I'm made to do'...and/or 'I have no other choice but to fight', is necessary. And so the background stories most often told in this brutal sport are stories like that of Miguel Cotto...a warrior with no other choices...men and women coming from nothing...knowing only how to claw, scrape, and fight their way out of poverty and adversity. And so, the 'fight' in them is innate. Heart comes with the territory. And brutality is as natural as skin.

Hamer is middle class, educated, ivy-league parents. It was almost comical watching him grimace and play at meanness before the fight began. =) I think his natural athleticism has taken him as far as he can go in boxing. Grit would be necessary to take him further...and he just doesn't seem to have it.

Fair point.