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Dolimite
post Dec 27 2012, 07:29 PM
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Broner on a Mayweather undercard, the question is, who would he fight in such a quick turn over? I say the winner of Garcia and Judah or maybe Broner and Maidana, better yet why not Broner and Gamboa, make it happen. Just think of it, the whole 50 cent thing with Floyd as a background story and the fact Gamboa and Mayweather were actually cool and Adrien stepping in as Floyd's next protege. It has a million story lines. At the weigh ins Ray J and 50 can get in a scuffle. 1.5 million buys instantly.

The interesting thing about the youtube video of May and Broner was Adrian was actually quiet. As Floyd was giving backhand compliments Broner sat there as if he was a seven year old kid on Santa's lap. The funny part of that entire video: Floyd saying he doesn't do bands he does straps. Of course at the end of the video the hanger ons had to get their shout outs. Broner maybe apart of the money team sooner rather than later. May 4th just got even more interesting.
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post Dec 29 2012, 07:43 PM
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realistically take mayweather out of the equation who wants a stupid amount of 30 million? and put that in a decent card with decent fighters and theres enough money to go around everyone. am not saying Mayweather doesnt deserve that much money am just saying hes the sponge.
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post Dec 29 2012, 09:37 PM
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QUOTE (mgrover @ Dec 29 2012, 05:43 PM) *
realistically take mayweather out of the equation who wants a stupid amount of 30 million? and put that in a decent card with decent fighters and theres enough money to go around everyone. am not saying Mayweather doesnt deserve that much money am just saying hes the sponge.



Oscar did the same thing, it is nothing new and stop hating. Boxing is a business you see Arum being generous with his money with his fighters?



Chels86 I understand what you are saying bro, I do, but names draw people in. I think the casual fan could be educated if network tv did a spot for each fighter on the under card, take TNT or ESPN they can have features on the fighters. I guess we will see who is on the card in the next few weeks to come then the real bitching and complaining can start.
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post Dec 30 2012, 03:56 PM
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QUOTE (Dolimite @ Dec 29 2012, 09:37 PM) *
Oscar did the same thing, it is nothing new and stop hating. Boxing is a business you see Arum being generous with his money with his fighters?



Chels86 I understand what you are saying bro, I do, but names draw people in. I think the casual fan could be educated if network tv did a spot for each fighter on the under card, take TNT or ESPN they can have features on the fighters. I guess we will see who is on the card in the next few weeks to come then the real bitching and complaining can start.


circular reasoning is a fallacy. and the model of payment oscar, arum and floyd all have benefited from does not make it a good one (well, except for them lol).

i know what you are saying it just doesn't seem right to tear down ol' grover - his comment didn't seem like hate to me anyway

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post Dec 30 2012, 04:51 PM
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QUOTE (wolterb @ Dec 30 2012, 01:56 PM) *
circular reasoning is a fallacy. and the model of payment oscar, arum and floyd all have benefited from does not make it a good one (well, except for them lol).

i know what you are saying it just doesn't seem right to tear down ol' grover - his comment didn't seem like hate to me anyway


He seems to call out Mayweather's greed as a reason why we can't have a good undercard, my point was Oscar and other big name fighters have done the same thing, why single out one person? It is a business and no one is going to get punched in the face for the love of the sport at a professional level, they fight for prize money... Why does Mayweather get called greedy and self absorbed? Other boxers would love to get to his level. No one bitched when Oscar was getting 30 million dollar purses, but Mayweather demands the lion share and all of a sudden people care about fairness in the sport. Now if Canelo was asking for 30 million dollar purses and other names that have not earned the right to then yes he would have a argument, but we are talking about the top cat in boxing.

Im not tearing down anyone, but you can't change the rules of the game in the middle of play. You can't just acknowledge one person's fault when someone before him set the standard. The bigger name gets the bigger draw. The reason why LeBron gets Lebron money is because he is Lebron, you can't give Chris Humphries LaBron money because he isn't the man. Same thing with Floyd you can't give Floyd J'Leon Love money and vica versa. The man has earned a right to demand as much as he wants. He paid his dues so it is only right that he gets to cash in.

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post Jan 3 2013, 07:59 PM
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QUOTE (Dolimite @ Dec 30 2012, 04:51 PM) *
He seems to call out Mayweather's greed as a reason why we can't have a good undercard, my point was Oscar and other big name fighters have done the same thing, why single out one person? It is a business and no one is going to get punched in the face for the love of the sport at a professional level, they fight for prize money... Why does Mayweather get called greedy and self absorbed? Other boxers would love to get to his level. No one bitched when Oscar was getting 30 million dollar purses, but Mayweather demands the lion share and all of a sudden people care about fairness in the sport. Now if Canelo was asking for 30 million dollar purses and other names that have not earned the right to then yes he would have a argument, but we are talking about the top cat in boxing.

Im not tearing down anyone, but you can't change the rules of the game in the middle of play. You can't just acknowledge one person's fault when someone before him set the standard. The bigger name gets the bigger draw. The reason why LeBron gets Lebron money is because he is Lebron, you can't give Chris Humphries LaBron money because he isn't the man. Same thing with Floyd you can't give Floyd J'Leon Love money and vica versa. The man has earned a right to demand as much as he wants. He paid his dues so it is only right that he gets to cash in.


mayweather/ortiz was supposed to have a great undercard but fighters kept getting injured
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post Jan 3 2013, 08:34 PM
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QUOTE (Hotsauce @ Jan 3 2013, 07:59 PM) *
mayweather/ortiz was supposed to have a great undercard but fighters kept getting injured

Yep, that roster of injuries was worse than a Week 9 NFL injury roster. First it was supposed to be Morales vs Crolla, then Morales vs Barrios, then Morales vs Matthysse...it all fell apart. Jessie Vargas was supposed to fight Alphonso Gomez, then he got injured. Then came Josesito Lopez as the final opponent selection. Yeah...that card had its share of issues and injuries.
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- Dolimite   Money & The Problem   Dec 27 2012, 07:29 PM
- - daprofessor   i may be alone on this one...but i don't think...   Dec 27 2012, 08:13 PM
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- - BigFightFan   Another failed relationship in the making, the who...   Dec 27 2012, 08:56 PM
- - Gambit808   To have Mayweather, Canelo & Broner all on the...   Dec 27 2012, 10:05 PM
- - leonthegee   No way Floyd, Canelo, and Broner end up on the sam...   Dec 27 2012, 10:22 PM
- - Franchize   I wish they could get a card with Broner, Mayweath...   Dec 28 2012, 07:14 AM
- - BrutUalBK   Honestly I'm glad that Broner is on the underc...   Dec 28 2012, 10:28 AM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Dec 27 2012, 07:29 PM) ...   Dec 28 2012, 11:39 AM
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- - daprofessor   i think the formula is simple....put on great matc...   Dec 29 2012, 06:22 PM
- - mgrover   realistically take mayweather out of the equation ...   Dec 29 2012, 07:43 PM
|- - Dolimite   QUOTE (mgrover @ Dec 29 2012, 05:43 PM) r...   Dec 29 2012, 09:37 PM
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