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mgrover
post Dec 30 2012, 10:35 AM
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I understand that both can be used in-conjunction with each other but has blood testing detected more than urine has? Since when the blood tested positive for Berto, Tarver, Peterson and Morales all there piss came back positive too. Blood been proven to be more effective?
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Franchize
post Jan 2 2013, 01:02 PM
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From what I've been told and researched, not all forms of HGH can be detected through urine. HCG as well. From what I hear, one of the reasons the "14 days before the fight" demand was fishy from Manny's camp is because that is about how long it takes for it to clear your system. I've heard this from multiple sources including an ESPN discussion with BJ Flores. I am NOT, I repeat, NOT an expert on this. When the May/Pac drama first began, I just wanted to do a little research myself so I don't get biased news in the entire saga so I could formulate an opinion on my own. That's just what I gathered.
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post Jan 2 2013, 03:46 PM
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QUOTE (Franchize @ Jan 2 2013, 02:02 PM) *
From what I've been told and researched, not all forms of HGH can be detected through urine. HCG as well. From what I hear, one of the reasons the "14 days before the fight" demand was fishy from Manny's camp is because that is about how long it takes for it to clear your system. I've heard this from multiple sources including an ESPN discussion with BJ Flores. I am NOT, I repeat, NOT an expert on this. When the May/Pac drama first began, I just wanted to do a little research myself so I don't get biased news in the entire saga so I could formulate an opinion on my own. That's just what I gathered.


what i know i learned some from my pops who used to be a body builder. he's pointed out the signs to me and gave me understanding. since then...i've learned from reading the articles and other sources online. most of the articles on the boxing websites come from writers close to conte who he has taken it upon himself to school. i recall one writer claiming to be an educated chemist who supposedly got kicked out of the wildcard for asking freddie roach the wrong questions concerning p.e.d's. funny how that didn't spur that educated chemist to explore that deeper. he's since disappeared off the face of the earth...but other writers have made it their mission to expose the problems with testing...or lack thereof and have even gone as far as suggesting that mayweathers' stand on testing is to cover his own usage. one thing is definitely for certain...testing does need to improve...but so long as it does there will always be ppl out there profiting from beating the tests.
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post Jan 6 2013, 08:55 PM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jan 2 2013, 03:46 PM) *
what i know i learned some from my pops who used to be a body builder. he's pointed out the signs to me and gave me understanding. since then...i've learned from reading the articles and other sources online. most of the articles on the boxing websites come from writers close to conte who he has taken it upon himself to school. i recall one writer claiming to be an educated chemist who supposedly got kicked out of the wildcard for asking freddie roach the wrong questions concerning p.e.d's. funny how that didn't spur that educated chemist to explore that deeper. he's since disappeared off the face of the earth...but other writers have made it their mission to expose the problems with testing...or lack thereof and have even gone as far as suggesting that mayweathers' stand on testing is to cover his own usage. one thing is definitely for certain...testing does need to improve...but so long as it does there will always be ppl out there profiting from beating the tests.

The writer (Gabriel something or other) who made those claims about Mayweather, as far as I'm aware, has been a long time critic of Mayweather in general. Years ago I used to make the mistake of reading Boxing Scene and MaxBoxing and scarred myself by reading some of his stuff.
Nowadays he tries to paint himself as some sort of anti-P.E.D crusader, but as far as I'm aware he wasn't saying a word about 'roids back in the day.
Anyway, the lawyers called his bluff on the supposed information he had and all he's been reduced to now are little snide comments. What was very funny to me was that he said the U.S.A.D.A was part of the Mayweather/GBP conspiracy.

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