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Dolimite
post Dec 31 2012, 03:31 PM
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I know I have been posting like crazy but I am on vacation and this is fun for me. What is your list of the top five pound for pound fighters for the end of 2012

1. Ward/ Mayweather
3. Marquez
4. Martinez
5. Vitali
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BrutUalBK
post Jan 1 2013, 05:06 PM
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1. Mayweather
2. Ward
3. JMM
4. Vitali
5. Bradley
6. Martinez
After this it's anybodies guess.
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Dolimite
post Jan 1 2013, 07:44 PM
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QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Jan 1 2013, 03:06 PM) *
1. Mayweather
2. Ward
3. JMM
4. Vitali
5. Bradley
6. Martinez

After this it's anybodies guess.


Explain this one to me please. I am not shitting on you I am curious how you decided that/
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BrutUalBK
post Jan 4 2013, 01:49 PM
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QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jan 1 2013, 06:44 PM) *
Explain this one to me please. I am not shitting on you I am curious how you decided that/



Not that I owe you or anyone else here any explanation at all but Bradley beat Pac and beat Alexander and is clearly not being marketed or even called out by any of his constituents (forget about the nobody Khan) but he beat Pac before JMM but got no credit for it.

Who did Martinez beat that high up? Pavlik? Paul Williams??

Were either one of them on the level of Pac?? I don't think so, besides this is my pick so I went with who has more significant wins vs their competition. When Martinez moves up instead of talking about moving down to face the likes of Floyd and Pac and take on a guy like Ward then he'll move ahead of Bradley (who is himself moving up and beating everyone).

Yall can sh@t on my pick and reasoning for it all you want, I like Martinez and it isn't Brad's fault he isn't getting the bigger fights after beating Pac, it's Arum's.
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post Jan 5 2013, 04:52 AM
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QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Jan 4 2013, 01:49 PM) *
When Martinez moves up instead of talking about moving down to face the likes of Floyd and Pac and take on a guy like Ward then he'll move ahead of Bradley

Martinez basically fucked a cruiser weight for 11 rounds straight. What more do you want him to do?
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post Jan 5 2013, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE (un01 @ Jan 5 2013, 03:52 AM) *
Martinez basically fucked a cruiser weight for 11 rounds straight. What more do you want him to do?



Since you're referring to the nobody (Chavez Jr) and making a big issue simply because of weight then for you and you only I explained that I want him to move up and face Ward instead of talking about moving down and facing Floyd and Pac.

Weight doesn't mean someone is great, did you think there was something so special about John Ruiz when Roy faced him?? If so, then all I can say is "REALLY!!!"
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post Jan 5 2013, 05:01 PM
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QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Jan 5 2013, 03:38 PM) *
Since you're referring to the nobody (Chavez Jr) and making a big issue simply because of weight then for you and you only I explained that I want him to move up and face Ward instead of talking about moving down and facing Floyd and Pac.

Weight doesn't mean someone is great, did you think there was something so special about John Ruiz when Roy faced him?? If so, then all I can say is "REALLY!!!"

Ok, ok... You said you wanted Martinez to fight bigger fighters and I just wanted to point out that he just finished fighting a cruiser weight making noise in his division. If the whole argument is about moving up in weight and beating the best in the higher weight classes, then I can't really take Tim Bradley serious if your referring to the Pac fight.
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post Jan 17 2013, 04:31 PM
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QUOTE (un01 @ Jan 5 2013, 04:01 PM) *
Ok, ok... You said you wanted Martinez to fight bigger fighters and I just wanted to point out that he just finished fighting a cruiser weight making noise in his division. If the whole argument is about moving up in weight and beating the best in the higher weight classes, then I can't really take Tim Bradley serious if your referring to the Pac fight.


Regardless of what Chavez weighed on fight night he made the limit required for the bout at the weigh-in. As far as your point comparing the smaller Bradley to a bigger Pac then there is none, everyone knows Pac has been at WW longer and Tim is just getting there.

My argument wasn't based on weight, it was about who was the most significant fighter these P4P guys had beaten, you're making the weight an issue, not me.
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