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> if you were a black fighter...would you sign with bob arum?
daprofessor
post Jan 2 2013, 03:37 PM
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help refresh my memory....when was the last time arum promoted a top black fighter? it seems to me he signs them to protect his best interests.

would u sign with him if u were black?

i remember him playing the race card for kelly pavlik stating that he was being discriminated against because he was white. the black fighters he signs seem to be after thoughts.

what does this mean for tim bradley???
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post Jan 4 2013, 03:43 PM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jan 4 2013, 02:02 PM) *
bradley is top 2 or 3 at welterweight and light welter. he is money in the bank and will not be beaten anytime soon. he has the potential to be a big star if given the right opposition. he doesn't need to be a huge puncher to accomplish this. i think some opponents that will help him shine are guys like garcia, ortiz, rios, maidana, guerrero, berto, khan and ultimately matthysse. i'd favor him over all of them except for matthysse...that's even money. problem is...with the exception of rios...all of the fighters i named are gbp fighters. arum won't roll the dice against them.

That's putting a lot of chips on Bradley. I think he's good but there are definitely some guys at 140-147 that would be more than a handful for him.

Btw I hope no one ever mentions guerrero and Bradley in the same sentence again! Lol that would be the most shit riddled dirty fight ever! Imagine Bradley vs Alexander 10X!!! The unrated version with exclusive punching while grabbing and thumbing in hd.
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post Jan 4 2013, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE (checkleft @ Jan 4 2013, 04:43 PM) *
That's putting a lot of chips on Bradley. I think he's good but there are definitely some guys at 140-147 that would be more than a handful for him.

Btw I hope no one ever mentions guerrero and Bradley in the same sentence again! Lol that would be the most shit riddled dirty fight ever! Imagine Bradley vs Alexander 10X!!! The unrated version with exclusive punching while grabbing and thumbing in hd.



bradley is that good! i'd put him at #1 at 140lbs....and #2 or 3 at 147.

he was breaking alexander down and was about to tear off into him before that headbutt happened. the headbutt robbed him of a good finish. alexander quit in that one.

as for guerrero/bradley...that would be a helluva match up!!! both guys come to fight. i'd give the slight edge to bradley but wouldn't be shocked if guerrero beat him.

i don't get all the hate for them. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) i think it's only because both are/were gunning for the big dogs. nothing wrong with that. bradley did what he said he would...he beat pac...and i think guerrero is going to shock a lot of ppl when he fights floyd. both are very worthy top notch fighters.

on a side note...bradley needs a soft touch in his next bout to knock off some of the rust. his last two lay offs have been long as shit. that's not good for any fighter.
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post Jan 4 2013, 07:29 PM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jan 4 2013, 09:25 PM) *
bradley is that good! i'd put him at #1 at 140lbs....and #2 or 3 at 147.

he was breaking alexander down and was about to tear off into him before that headbutt happened. the headbutt robbed him of a good finish. alexander quit in that one.

as for guerrero/bradley...that would be a helluva match up!!! both guys come to fight. i'd give the slight edge to bradley but wouldn't be shocked if guerrero beat him.

i don't get all the hate for them. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) i think it's only because both are/were gunning for the big dogs. nothing wrong with that. bradley did what he said he would...he beat pac...and i think guerrero is going to shock a lot of ppl when he fights floyd. both are very worthy top notch fighters.

on a side note...bradley needs a soft touch in his next bout to knock off some of the rust. his last two lay offs have been long as shit. that's not good for any fighter.

on an even more side note WTF ever happened to the Khan fight. Bradley turned that down to sell his soul to the devil and he deserves to be where hes at. No sympathy from me at all, he could of fought Khan when Khan was at the top of his game, but instead he let Peterson do it, and ultimately Garcia.
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QUOTE (mgrover @ Jan 4 2013, 08:29 PM) *
on an even more side note WTF ever happened to the Khan fight. Bradley turned that down to sell his soul to the devil and he deserves to be where hes at. No sympathy from me at all, he could of fought Khan when Khan was at the top of his game, but instead he let Peterson do it, and ultimately Garcia.


i can't blame him for wanting out of his contract with gary shaw...and who knew the bradley/pac fight aftermath would play out the way it did?

khan waited until he knew bradley had promoter issues to call him out...even then he did it in a bitch way underneath his breath and what not. i never thought khan had a chance against bradley and i think the peterson and garcia fights proved that.
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jan 5 2013, 01:02 AM) *
i can't blame him for wanting out of his contract with gary shaw...and who knew the bradley/pac fight aftermath would play out the way it did?

khan waited until he knew bradley had promoter issues to call him out...even then he did it in a bitch way underneath his breath and what not. i never thought khan had a chance against bradley and i think the peterson and garcia fights proved that.


it is what it is, what about when Bradley was offered a 50-50 split and half the UK PPV money? I remember somebody saying oh think again that may not be all that much but it was still more than Bradley was capable of producing. Bradley went after the big fish win lose or draw with Pac he was never realistically going anywhere with Arum. I don't know what his contract was like with Gary Shaw tbh but these lay offs can't be good for business.
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