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daprofessor
post Jan 2 2013, 03:37 PM
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help refresh my memory....when was the last time arum promoted a top black fighter? it seems to me he signs them to protect his best interests.

would u sign with him if u were black?

i remember him playing the race card for kelly pavlik stating that he was being discriminated against because he was white. the black fighters he signs seem to be after thoughts.

what does this mean for tim bradley???
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jan 2 2013, 03:37 PM) *
help refresh my memory....when was the last time arum promoted a top black fighter? it seems to me he signs them to protect his best interests.

would u sign with him if u were black?

i remember him playing the race card for kelly pavlik stating that he was being discriminated against because he was white. the black fighters he signs seem to be after thoughts.

what does this mean for tim bradley???

Bradley made $5mil vs pacquiao and was offered 2 mil to fight Peterson. I think it depends on the team around you(management and advisor) that matters when you sign with any promotional company.
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post Jan 2 2013, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE (BigFightFan @ Jan 2 2013, 06:49 PM) *
Bradley made $5mil vs pacquiao and was offered 2 mil to fight Peterson. I think it depends on the team around you(management and advisor) that matters when you sign with any promotional company.


i thought bradley had good management in thompson promotions...they basically built him...then he signed with gary shaw who helped some. when he let his contract expire with gary shaw...he got a new manager, cameron dunkin, who works closely with bob arum. dunkin seems to act in the best interest of top rank more than anything. anyone remember how they did kelly pavlik?
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jan 2 2013, 03:34 PM) *
i thought bradley had good management in thompson promotions...they basically built him...then he signed with gary shaw who helped some. when he let his contract expire with gary shaw...he got a new manager, cameron dunkin, who works closely with bob arum. dunkin seems to act in the best interest of top rank more than anything. anyone remember how they did kelly pavlik?


Where else would they go. Don King is a crook and GBP is for the Mexican boxer. Other promoters are too small to really get their name out. 50 maybe the answer but he already has beef with GBP and they have a lot of good fighters. Arum seems to be willing to promote people who enjoy getting bent over and smiling while getting bent over. The question is how can they promote themselves? One thing I respect about Oscar, Cotto, and May is that when they got off of the plantation and left their slave master they went in for themselves. They became the middle man and they have benefited greatly. Al Haymon seems to be doing well for African Americans but he is the minority of boxing promoters. The thing is more boxers need to learn and become experts of the business side of boxing so they can have their own promotion companies and be able to offer other boxers greater revenue than TR and other promotional companies.
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- daprofessor   if you were a black fighter...would you sign with bob arum?   Jan 2 2013, 03:37 PM
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