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daprofessor
post Jan 2 2013, 03:37 PM
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help refresh my memory....when was the last time arum promoted a top black fighter? it seems to me he signs them to protect his best interests.

would u sign with him if u were black?

i remember him playing the race card for kelly pavlik stating that he was being discriminated against because he was white. the black fighters he signs seem to be after thoughts.

what does this mean for tim bradley???
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mrchitown
post Jan 3 2013, 12:21 AM
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If I was a pro fighter or looking to turn pro, I'd roll with Haymon. He is clearly the manager/adviser who knows and does what it takes to nurture a talent and that just so happens to be mostly black fighters.

I'd never sign with TR and any black fighter who does deserves rotting in the wasteland they put themselves in. Arum has done numerous interviews where he claims that blacks don't buy ppv's which is total bs, but everyone knows you aint about to sell black folks a line of shit and think they gon go for it. Why would blacks continuously shell out their hard earned money to see fighters that don't resemble them. You have to make an effort to appeal to different markets, and Arum only goes after one demographic

Arum is the Mitt Romey of boxing. When Todd Duboef takes over TR will be different, until then people can expect what they're getting now. Dibella, Shaw..I would sign to them even though there a smaller company. Kathy Duva and Main Events is a company I'd sign to as well

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post Jan 3 2013, 01:59 AM
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QUOTE (mrchitown @ Jan 3 2013, 01:21 AM) *
If I was a pro fighter or looking to turn pro, I'd roll with Haymon. He is clearly the manager/adviser who knows and does what it takes to nurture a talent and that just so happens to be mostly black fighters.

I'd never sign with TR and any black fighter who does deserves rotting in the wasteland they put themselves in. Arum has done numerous interviews where he claims that blacks don't buy ppv's which is total bs, but everyone knows you aint about to sell black folks a line of shit and think they gon go for it. Why would blacks continuously shell out their hard earned money to see fighters that don't resemble them. You have to make an effort to appeal to different markets, and Arum only goes after one demographic

Arum is the Mitt Romey of boxing. When Todd Duboef takes over TR will be different, until then people can expect what they're getting now. Dibella, Shaw..I would sign to them even though there a smaller company. Kathy Duva and Main Events is a company I'd sign to as well


that's it....why would any black fighter sign with him and think that things are going to be different for them? all it takes is a little research to figure it out. arum had floyd mayweather who he called one of the greatest ever...and even said he was better than ali and leonard...and how did that promotion work for floyd? he still took back seat to arums other fighters.

i agree....i'd sign with dibella, main events, shaw all before i would sign with top rank. gbp hasn't proved to be much better....but the jury is still out on them when it comes to promoting black fighters.
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- daprofessor   if you were a black fighter...would you sign with bob arum?   Jan 2 2013, 03:37 PM
- - Kratza   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jan 2 2013, 08:37 PM...   Jan 2 2013, 04:14 PM
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- - Plah   Al Haymon all the way.   Jan 2 2013, 05:51 PM
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|- - Franchize   QUOTE (mgrover @ Jan 2 2013, 10:51 PM) th...   Jan 3 2013, 09:37 AM
- - mrchitown   If I was a pro fighter or looking to turn pro, I...   Jan 3 2013, 12:21 AM
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- - checkleft   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jan 2 2013, 10:48 PM) W...   Jan 3 2013, 12:23 AM
- - Cshel86   I signed with TR around the same time that Bradley...   Jan 3 2013, 10:53 AM
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