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> if you were a black fighter...would you sign with bob arum?
daprofessor
post Jan 2 2013, 03:37 PM
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help refresh my memory....when was the last time arum promoted a top black fighter? it seems to me he signs them to protect his best interests.

would u sign with him if u were black?

i remember him playing the race card for kelly pavlik stating that he was being discriminated against because he was white. the black fighters he signs seem to be after thoughts.

what does this mean for tim bradley???
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QUOTE (Kratza @ Jan 2 2013, 04:14 PM) *
i think i would sign to TR over GBP but i'd join Al Haymon over anything if i had the chance, it seems evident that Top Rank is better at promoting young fighters than GBP but i also think Al Haymon is the best at promoting young black fighter and Haymon is where the money is and any fighter who signs with him has a chance at money and stardom and thats my reasoning

You're already asking for trouble Kratza, lol. Haymon and Arum despise each other, so you'd have to pick sides immediately. If Arum even thought that you'd consider Haymon for your manager, he probably make you suffer at the snap of a finger.

QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jan 2 2013, 06:31 PM) *
let's not forget...the peterson brothers were both signed with arum. they really took back seat in that company. so did zahir raheem, joshua clottey and what ever happened to that black jewish guy he promoted anthony 'the messenger' thompson?

i can't help but think that arums plans with pac/bradley failed and bradley became the casualty in all of that. i don't see any real push for him to promote bradley and i seriously doubt bradley is going to flourish under him. i hope i'm wrong...but the pattern exists.

I totally forgot that the Peterson brothers were signed with TR, and I've been watching them since 2007 in their FNFs days. The saddest part is, it looks as if they'll be going back to Arum sooner than later.

If you remember Lamont and the whole PED scandal, Hunter made it cleared that "Bob reached out us and helped", so I see Arum playing his hand in trying to promote him again, in a "return the favor" type deal.

That shit sounded all too reminiscent of Manny's situation, in which Arum played the father figure role with his career, especially after the Golden Boy nonsense. Lamont isn't dumb, but he's getting older, and I dont see many promoters checking for him.

Maybe he wants to be a free agent, but look how far it's gotten him...a $70k purse bid for a failed Judah fight negotiation. How is a guy a champion, and looks to spilt $70k? Weird.

Arum would look like the ultimate hero for reviving Peterson's reputation and career...look what he did to Margarito's career. Dude should've been banned for life, but yet, he was able to come back to the sport, fight once in Mexico, get a big payday against Manny, and a critically acclaimed rematch with Cotto. Doesn't sound all that bad to me.

I dont Bradley going too far with TR at this point. I almost felt like Lamont was about to get signed with TR again, when the rematch rumors were looming. Timmy trusted Bob a bit too much and turned down a $2.(somethin)M payday against a guy that he already beat. I mean c'mon Tim, you already beat him, fight him again. From what I've heard, Bradley has hired somebody to come in and handle this whole issue, which could lead to another litigation...something Bradley's quite familiar with. Sad thing is, he may not leave this litigation unscathed.
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- daprofessor   if you were a black fighter...would you sign with bob arum?   Jan 2 2013, 03:37 PM
- - Kratza   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jan 2 2013, 08:37 PM...   Jan 2 2013, 04:14 PM
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||- - Franchize   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jan 3 2013, 02:57 PM...   Jan 4 2013, 10:41 AM
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|- - leonthegee   [quote name='Kratza' date='Jan 2 2013,...   Jan 3 2013, 05:26 AM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Kratza @ Jan 2 2013, 04:14 PM) Wit...   Jan 3 2013, 11:55 AM
- - BigFightFan   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jan 2 2013, 03:37 PM...   Jan 2 2013, 05:49 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (BigFightFan @ Jan 2 2013, 06:49 PM...   Jan 2 2013, 06:34 PM
|- - Dolimite   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jan 2 2013, 03:34 PM...   Jan 2 2013, 09:48 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jan 2 2013, 10:48 PM) W...   Jan 3 2013, 02:05 AM
- - Plah   Al Haymon all the way.   Jan 2 2013, 05:51 PM
- - mgrover   the question is if you were any fighter would you ...   Jan 2 2013, 09:51 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (mgrover @ Jan 2 2013, 10:51 PM) th...   Jan 3 2013, 02:06 AM
|- - Franchize   QUOTE (mgrover @ Jan 2 2013, 10:51 PM) th...   Jan 3 2013, 09:37 AM
- - mrchitown   If I was a pro fighter or looking to turn pro, I...   Jan 3 2013, 12:21 AM
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- - checkleft   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jan 2 2013, 10:48 PM) W...   Jan 3 2013, 12:23 AM
- - Cshel86   I signed with TR around the same time that Bradley...   Jan 3 2013, 10:53 AM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Jan 3 2013, 11:53 AM) I ...   Jan 3 2013, 01:52 PM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Kratza @ Jan 2 2013, 04:14 PM) i t...   Jan 3 2013, 02:18 PM
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- - mgrover   If Arum wanted Bradley to be the big next thing he...   Jan 3 2013, 02:33 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (mgrover @ Jan 3 2013, 03:33 PM) If...   Jan 3 2013, 07:53 PM
|- - BigFightFan   QUOTE (mgrover @ Jan 3 2013, 02:33 PM) If...   Jan 5 2013, 12:10 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (BigFightFan @ Jan 5 2013, 05:10 PM...   Jan 8 2013, 12:06 PM
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- - Hotsauce   wasn't roy jones independent?   Jan 3 2013, 07:54 PM
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- - Hotsauce   more fighters should be independent   Jan 4 2013, 12:36 AM
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- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jan 2 2013, 02:37 PM...   Jan 4 2013, 01:43 PM
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|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (mgrover @ Jan 4 2013, 08:29 PM) on...   Jan 4 2013, 08:02 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jan 5 2013, 01:02 AM...   Jan 4 2013, 08:42 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (mgrover @ Jan 4 2013, 09:42 PM) it...   Jan 5 2013, 02:11 PM
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|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (mgrover @ Jan 6 2013, 10:44 PM) wa...   Jan 7 2013, 01:13 AM
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|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (mgrover @ Jan 8 2013, 12:00 PM) He...   Jan 8 2013, 01:37 PM
- - checkleft   I think Bradley is solid but guerrero is a cheat m...   Jan 5 2013, 12:05 AM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (checkleft @ Jan 5 2013, 01:05 AM) ...   Jan 5 2013, 02:19 PM
- - BigFightFan   I 100% agree check, The Ghost is a dirty fighter. ...   Jan 5 2013, 08:13 AM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (BigFightFan @ Jan 5 2013, 01:10 PM...   Jan 5 2013, 12:34 PM
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- - Cshel86   I'm still waiting on my fight date...c'mon...   Jan 8 2013, 05:12 PM


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