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[daprofessor]

oscar
floyd
pacquiao

can someone turn this into a poll for me?

[Dolimite]

Outside of his country and other Asian countries and the US is he big in Europe, I know he doesn't have love in South America so I am trying to figure out exactly what countries he is most popular in. Is Pac popular because of his fighting style or the myth behind him? Floyd is popular because well of Floyd. Oscar because of his looks and fighting everyone.

[daprofessor]

Outside of his country and other Asian countries and the US is he big in Europe, I know he doesn't have love in South America so I am trying to figure out exactly what countries he is most popular in. Is Pac popular because of his fighting style or the myth behind him? Floyd is popular because well of Floyd. Oscar because of his looks and fighting everyone.

i live in socal...and there are a shit load of asians here. i can tell u this....all asians love that dude. chinese, korean, japanese...and filipinos. not sure if u know this or not...but there are a shit load of asians on this planet. like someone else said...even ppl who don't follow boxing know who pac is...and i believe he eclipsed oscar in popularity. we have european members on this board...ask them who's more popular in europe. i know when i was in the uk last year...they definitely had love for pac. floyds fighting style may be more appreciated there.

[Dolimite]

i live in socal...and there are a shit load of asians here. i can tell u this....all asians love that dude. chinese, korean, japanese...and filipinos. not sure if u know this or not...but there are a shit load of asians on this planet. like someone else said...even ppl who don't follow boxing know who pac is...and i believe he eclipsed oscar in popularity. we have european members on this board...ask them who's more popular in europe. i know when i was in the uk last year...they definitely had love for pac. floyds fighting style may be more appreciated there.

Professor I am from Los Angeles, I lived in Temecula (Vietnamese and Filipino haven) Garden Grove (every Asian ethnicity imaginable) and Long Beach and Artisa so I know about Asians in So Cal. I am not going to even touch San Francisco area. I am very familiar about Asians in Cali. Well I never been to Europe and I know that he isn't popular in South America. But I guess Pac is more popular than Mayweather. I know Mayweather gained a wider audience when he did the WWF and Dancing with the Stars, I do think that he is known outside of boxing but not in the positive light.

The question that daunts me is Mayweather and Oscar created their own superstardom. Their fighting and personality is what made them top of their food chain. Is Pacquiao popular because of the machine that pushed him or is he popular because of the fights he gave? People started talking about Pac widely after Oscar and then it went into hypermode after he Mannied Hatton (lol) but again looking at how he won and the stipulations on how he won gives me room to wonder was this hype because look what happen happened since then. I will concur that with all the given information I would say Pac is an international super star but will that star fade when he leaves or is he keeps losing or are people really in love with tthis guy to the point no matter what he does they still love him?

[daprofessor]

Professor I am from Los Angeles, I lived in Temecula (Vietnamese and Filipino haven) Garden Grove (every Asian ethnicity imaginable) and Long Beach and Artisa so I know about Asians in So Cal. I am not going to even touch San Francisco area. I am very familiar about Asians in Cali. Well I never been to Europe and I know that he isn't popular in South America. But I guess Pac is more popular than Mayweather. I know Mayweather gained a wider audience when he did the WWF and Dancing with the Stars, I do think that he is known outside of boxing but not in the positive light.

The question that daunts me is Mayweather and Oscar created their own superstardom. Their fighting and personality is what made them top of their food chain. Is Pacquiao popular because of the machine that pushed him or is he popular because of the fights he gave? People started talking about Pac widely after Oscar and then it went into hypermode after he Mannied Hatton (lol) but again looking at how he won and the stipulations on how he won gives me room to wonder was this hype because look what happen happened since then. I will concur that with all the given information I would say Pac is an international super star but will that star fade when he leaves or is he keeps losing or are people really in love with tthis guy to the point no matter what he does they still love him?

oscar didn't create his super-stardom...bob did. he has spoken publicly about paying women to scream at press conferences and weigh ins and stuff. a lot of that was orchestrated and spread like wildfire.

pac burst onto the scene when he beat barrera imo. then the trilogy with morales and the first fight with jmm really accelerated his popularity. the dlh and hatton fights made him legendary...but yeah, i agree...everything over 135 has been smoke and mirrors. in regards to stipulations...none of that info will see the light anytime soon and the general public has been duped. history is going to remember him kindly because the media pretty much painted him a golden child and continues to do so. floyd on the other hand doesn't get the same treatment from the media and i believe that's because of a few reasons. he chose to portray himself as the bad guy....it worked. he's prone to putting his foot in his mouth when he speaks publicly so he does himself no favors. his troubles with the law really sealed the deal for him. it is what it is...

[Dolimite]

oscar didn't create his super-stardom...bob did. he has spoken publicly about paying women to scream at press conferences and weigh ins and stuff. a lot of that was orchestrated and spread like wildfire.

pac burst onto the scene when he beat barrera imo. then the trilogy with morales and the first fight with jmm really accelerated his popularity. the dlh and hatton fights made him legendary...but yeah, i agree...everything over 135 has been smoke and mirrors. in regards to stipulations...none of that info will see the light anytime soon and the general public has been duped. history is going to remember him kindly because the media pretty much painted him a golden child and continues to do so. floyd on the other hand doesn't get the same treatment from the media and i believe that's because of a few reasons. he chose to portray himself as the bad guy....it worked. he's prone to putting his foot in his mouth when he speaks publicly so he does himself no favors. his troubles with the law really sealed the deal for him. it is what it is...

Professor you honestly know your shit and do your homework because I honestly did not know that. Professor when Pac was fighting at the lower weights I was a fan hands down! Once he started to become popular and I saw what he was doing to his opponents as an advantage when fighting them I lost all interest. I think the media and history has to be honest with Pac. What happens if he loses his 3rd straight fight then what? Will the smoke and mirrors be lifted? Mayweather is at times his own worse enemy. He played and is playing the bad boy role to perfection. I think that when Mayweather is telling stories about boxing and when he was younger are great, I think if he was a little eloquent and more polished with his words and expressing himself he would be far better understood. The legal trouble I have my issues with simply Mayweather and Josie Harris happened to be hanging out together at the same strip club after he got out of prison. Go figure. However I think history will not deny Mayweather's superiority in the ring.

[daprofessor]

Professor you honestly know your shit and do your homework because I honestly did not know that. Professor when Pac was fighting at the lower weights I was a fan hands down! Once he started to become popular and I saw what he was doing to his opponents as an advantage when fighting them I lost all interest. I think the media and history has to be honest with Pac. What happens if he loses his 3rd straight fight then what? Will the smoke and mirrors be lifted? Mayweather is at times his own worse enemy. He played and is playing the bad boy role to perfection. I think that when Mayweather is telling stories about boxing and when he was younger are great, I think if he was a little eloquent and more polished with his words and expressing himself he would be far better understood. The legal trouble I have my issues with simply Mayweather and Josie Harris happened to be hanging out together at the same strip club after he got out of prison. Go figure. However I think history will not deny Mayweather's superiority in the ring.

thanks. i think a lot of the truth about pac is lost on casual fans....and they don't really care.

as for floyd...i'm a die hard fan and his personal life means absolutely nothing to me. his abilities as a fighter are what i've always been amazed by and there is no denying his superiority on that. history can paint him however they choose...but the film will tell a different story to those who understand what it is they are seeing.

[Dolimite]

thanks. i think a lot of the truth about pac is lost on casual fans....and they don't really care.

as for floyd...i'm a die hard fan and his personal life means absolutely nothing to me. his abilities as a fighter are what i've always been amazed by and there is no denying his superiority on that. history can paint him however they choose...but the film will tell a different story to those who understand what it is they are seeing.

That is interesting simply because that is what people like to highlight when it comes to Floyd. My favorite Floyd fight was Emmanuel Burton after I saw that fight I knew Mayweather was the real deal. Anyway, I notice when it comes to Pac's personal like people skip over it and only want to focus on his accomplishments they do not do the same for Mayweather. They even protected Oscar's little coke problem and being a complete man whore. Which is in his right but when you want to be Mr. Clean and you are dirty and the media covers it up but they want to highlight Mayweather as being a douche bag because of all his short comings and out the ring issues and shit on his boxing skills as well as opponents that's when I become really sour. Great post as usual professor