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mitukczuk
post Jan 17 2013, 01:28 PM
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What's up guys.

About two weeks ago, I had an awesome conversation with few of my friends after our work out and the topic was the same as the title of this thread.

JCC vs Meldrick Taylor is one of the most intense fights I have ever seen. It mixes good with bad so efficiently I still can't make up my mind about the final outcome. Do I agree with Richard "Lexington" Steele? Would I stopped the fight too? Was it fixed? Was Steele just looking for an excuse to stop the fight to preserve JCC's 0 in the loss column ? So many questions. But I have to say...I see reasons for both...Meldrick was BEATEN UP...and I mean...he was FUBAR! On the other hand...2 or so seconds? Rly? I just don't know and that's what makes the fight so great.

I liked Taylor's speed but although Chavez was really connecting 1 to Meldrick's 3, these punches were bombs! Kudos to Meldrick's heart and will for making him upright through almost all 12 rounds. Needless to say though, JCC made him pay in gold and diamonds for any punches landed.
Mexican toughness vs the American (Philadelphian) swagger at its best.
I think Taylor's corner didn't plan the strategy for him too well though. In the first round he threw 96 punches...you just can't do that if you are not built like i don't know..Margarito. Chavez is Chavez and you have to conserve your energy against him because it is highly unlikely that the fight is going to end before the 12th round. I think that was a mistake...given that Taylor was young and inexperienced, it was a recipe for disaster which it ultimately was - 9th round through 12th he was OUT on his feet.

I couldn't breathe during the last minute of the 12th although I had already known how it is going to end. As Steele said, you could see the sand running out Taylor's hourglass. The crowd went balistic after the knockdown..I have never heard anything like that before.
Also, if you look at the face of Chavez right after the fight...where is the punishment ? He looks tired, but other than that..ready to have a party.

For once I truly believe that a fight really stands behind the downfall of a fighter's career.

What are your thoughts about Richard Steele's decision and the fight in general?

I recommend looking at both the fight
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-Inq5r61ZY

and HBO's "Legendary nights" segment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFQ2oJ3asaM

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post Jan 20 2013, 12:19 PM
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It's great to see this fight is still fresh in our memories.

How do you feel about what happened to Taylor afterwards? Loss of focus, legal trouble, HEALTH PROBLEMS...do you see any connection to this fight or do you rather think Taylor would have fallen into these even without them ?
I think the "loss" or however you want to put it, mentally killed him. Hell, I would be pissed off to this day...Seeing how he ended up just breaks my heart.
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post Jan 20 2013, 02:46 PM
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QUOTE (mitukczuk @ Jan 20 2013, 09:19 AM) *
It's great to see this fight is still fresh in our memories.

How do you feel about what happened to Taylor afterwards? Loss of focus, legal trouble, HEALTH PROBLEMS...do you see any connection to this fight or do you rather think Taylor would have fallen into these even without them ?
I think the "loss" or however you want to put it, mentally killed him. Hell, I would be pissed off to this day...Seeing how he ended up just breaks my heart.


Good point man. Look what happens to boxers when they get that first heartbreaking lost or robbery. If you are not mentally tough then everything can fall by the waist side. This is why I am amazed by Juan Manuel, this dude never stopped. He knew he beat Pac at least twice and he never let that lost hurt him mentally. I can't think of the boxers name that cried in the middle of his fight, he wouldn't hit the guy back, dude had a total melt down. Miguel Cotto is another example, after Margarito assaulted him with loaded gloves Miguel hasn't recovered; his confidence is gone. Diego Corrales (RIP) after Mayweather's clinic against him he just went down hill. He was undefeated and on his way to be a force in the boxing ring, and bam one disappointment after another. You have to be mentally tough, the same thing happen with Tyson the list goes on.

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- mitukczuk   Julio Cesar Chavez vs Meldrick Taylor revisited.   Jan 17 2013, 01:28 PM
- - daprofessor   i remember that fight like it was yesterday. i abs...   Jan 17 2013, 02:08 PM
- - daprofessor   why is this in the ufc forum?   Jan 17 2013, 02:08 PM
|- - mitukczuk   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jan 17 2013, 02:08 P...   Jan 17 2013, 02:18 PM
- - mrchitown   Meldrick deserved the benefit of the doubt. He had...   Jan 18 2013, 12:22 AM
- - Southeastpaw   It's sad when a non UFC topic gets more posts ...   Jan 18 2013, 12:54 PM
|- - mitukczuk   QUOTE (Southeastpaw @ Jan 18 2013, 12:54 ...   Jan 18 2013, 01:57 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Southeastpaw @ Jan 18 2013, 01:54 ...   Jan 18 2013, 02:17 PM
|- - Southeastpaw   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jan 18 2013, 02:17 P...   Jan 18 2013, 02:53 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Southeastpaw @ Jan 18 2013, 03:53 ...   Jan 18 2013, 04:59 PM
- - Jack 1000   I disagree with the part of the comment that said ...   Jan 18 2013, 04:05 PM
- - checkleft   Meldricks trainer was an idiot. Nonetheless that w...   Jan 18 2013, 04:16 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (checkleft @ Jan 18 2013, 05:16 PM)...   Jan 18 2013, 04:59 PM
- - mitukczuk   Thanks for putting the thread into the right secti...   Jan 18 2013, 04:59 PM
- - Dolimite   This fight pisses me off until this day! No wa...   Jan 18 2013, 06:29 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jan 18 2013, 07:29 PM) ...   Jan 18 2013, 07:59 PM
|- - Dolimite   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jan 18 2013, 05:59 P...   Jan 19 2013, 08:56 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jan 18 2013, 04:59 P...   Jan 19 2013, 02:11 AM
- - Jack 1000   Steele said in an interview (or so he claims) that...   Jan 19 2013, 11:56 AM
- - wolterb   I thought the stoppage was suspect - Taylor stood ...   Jan 19 2013, 07:54 PM
|- - Jack 1000   QUOTE (wolterb @ Jan 19 2013, 06:54 PM) I...   Jan 20 2013, 05:14 AM
- - Cshel86   I still tear up in anger after the 12th round of t...   Jan 19 2013, 09:37 PM
- - wolterb   No kidding. It seemed like Ruddock played possum t...   Jan 20 2013, 11:42 AM
- - mitukczuk   It's great to see this fight is still fresh in...   Jan 20 2013, 12:19 PM
|- - Dolimite   QUOTE (mitukczuk @ Jan 20 2013, 09:19 AM)...   Jan 20 2013, 02:46 PM
- - wolterb   ^Oliver McCall did that in the Lewis rematch   Jan 20 2013, 03:17 PM
|- - Dolimite   QUOTE (wolterb @ Jan 20 2013, 12:17 PM) ^...   Jan 20 2013, 04:42 PM
|- - mitukczuk   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jan 20 2013, 05:42 PM) ...   Jan 21 2013, 04:22 AM
|- - wolterb   QUOTE (mitukczuk @ Jan 21 2013, 04:22 AM)...   Jan 21 2013, 01:01 PM
|- - Dolimite   QUOTE (wolterb @ Jan 21 2013, 10:01 AM) I...   Jan 21 2013, 04:20 PM
- - wolterb   real awkward lol   Jan 20 2013, 03:22 PM


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