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> Julio Cesar Chavez vs Meldrick Taylor revisited.
mitukczuk
post Jan 17 2013, 01:28 PM
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What's up guys.

About two weeks ago, I had an awesome conversation with few of my friends after our work out and the topic was the same as the title of this thread.

JCC vs Meldrick Taylor is one of the most intense fights I have ever seen. It mixes good with bad so efficiently I still can't make up my mind about the final outcome. Do I agree with Richard "Lexington" Steele? Would I stopped the fight too? Was it fixed? Was Steele just looking for an excuse to stop the fight to preserve JCC's 0 in the loss column ? So many questions. But I have to say...I see reasons for both...Meldrick was BEATEN UP...and I mean...he was FUBAR! On the other hand...2 or so seconds? Rly? I just don't know and that's what makes the fight so great.

I liked Taylor's speed but although Chavez was really connecting 1 to Meldrick's 3, these punches were bombs! Kudos to Meldrick's heart and will for making him upright through almost all 12 rounds. Needless to say though, JCC made him pay in gold and diamonds for any punches landed.
Mexican toughness vs the American (Philadelphian) swagger at its best.
I think Taylor's corner didn't plan the strategy for him too well though. In the first round he threw 96 punches...you just can't do that if you are not built like i don't know..Margarito. Chavez is Chavez and you have to conserve your energy against him because it is highly unlikely that the fight is going to end before the 12th round. I think that was a mistake...given that Taylor was young and inexperienced, it was a recipe for disaster which it ultimately was - 9th round through 12th he was OUT on his feet.

I couldn't breathe during the last minute of the 12th although I had already known how it is going to end. As Steele said, you could see the sand running out Taylor's hourglass. The crowd went balistic after the knockdown..I have never heard anything like that before.
Also, if you look at the face of Chavez right after the fight...where is the punishment ? He looks tired, but other than that..ready to have a party.

For once I truly believe that a fight really stands behind the downfall of a fighter's career.

What are your thoughts about Richard Steele's decision and the fight in general?

I recommend looking at both the fight
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-Inq5r61ZY

and HBO's "Legendary nights" segment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFQ2oJ3asaM

This post has been edited by mitukczuk: Jan 17 2013, 01:59 PM
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post Jan 17 2013, 02:08 PM
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i remember that fight like it was yesterday. i absolutely agree that both sides have legitimate arguments. the way i see it....in the heat of the moment, with all the crowd roaring...that is a tough call for anyone to make. if u watch it again, u will see that richard steele asks taylor to come forward and he just stood there on unsteady feet. he looked straight into his eyes and had the best vantage point to see if meldrick could continue or not. richard steele is not the time keeper. i can't say that he heard the 10 second clapper...or if he was aware that there were only 2 seconds left. under the circumstances...in the heat of the moment, i get it. he made the right call.
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post Jan 17 2013, 02:08 PM
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why is this in the ufc forum? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Jan 17 2013, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jan 17 2013, 02:08 PM) *
why is this in the ufc forum? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)


Hah ! I was checking the UFC thread and apparently I couldn't be bothered with placing it to the right section. :X Can anyone move it?
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post Jan 18 2013, 12:22 AM
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Meldrick deserved the benefit of the doubt. He had the fight. That decision by Steele will forever cause debates
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post Jan 18 2013, 12:54 PM
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It's sad when a non UFC topic gets more posts than a UFC topic in a UFC forum. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jan 18 2013, 01:57 PM
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QUOTE (Southeastpaw @ Jan 18 2013, 12:54 PM) *
It's sad when a non UFC topic gets more posts than a UFC topic in a UFC forum. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


No doubt. Can somebody move it to the right section? Or is it supposed to be forgotten ?
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post Jan 18 2013, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE (Southeastpaw @ Jan 18 2013, 01:54 PM) *
It's sad when a non UFC topic gets more posts than a UFC topic in a UFC forum. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) i was thinking the same thing. i also thought maybe it was an attempt to get more hits in that forum.

which reminds me....what ever happened to the filter for boxing? i remember there being an option to just read boxing news on the front page...now i have to skip over stuff just to get to boxing. it's a huge inconvenience.
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post Jan 18 2013, 02:53 PM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jan 18 2013, 02:17 PM) *
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) i was thinking the same thing. i also thought maybe it was an attempt to get more hits in that forum.

which reminds me....what ever happened to the filter for boxing? i remember there being an option to just read boxing news on the front page...now i have to skip over stuff just to get to boxing. it's a huge inconvenience.

It's a conspiracy. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shiftyeyes_anim.gif)
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post Jan 18 2013, 04:05 PM
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I disagree with the part of the comment that said Taylor was "Out on his feet in rounds 9-12." I think he was OUT when Chavez knocked him down with seconds to go. I recall it was never explained why Duva was coming up into the ring or what he was saying? Note he could have gotten Taylor DQ'd for that. Does anyone remember why Duva did what he did?

This is one of those 50/50 debates that has withstood the test of time. Watching it live, I thought it was a bad stoppage. Through several replays, I saw that Meldrick had no definitive responses to Steele's question when he twice asked him, "Are You OK?" Although, Richard did not give any time for an answer following his second, "Are You OK." He looked in his eyes and saw he was out. A shame it had to happen. Chavez was coming on, but I recall everyone had Taylor up something like 8-3. Amazingly, one judge had Chavez ahead, as did an LA Times reporter, and maybe one other writer. Can't see that at all. The first eight rounds were clear and obvious for Taylor.

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