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> "If it wasn't for me the game would be dead" - Muhammad Ali, A few questions on the G.O.A.T.
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post Feb 1 2013, 06:53 PM
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Take away everything accomplished by the G.O.A.T. and what do we have with boxing today?

Who do you feel is Greater than the Greatest?

Some people (like me) would still argue that if it weren't for the layoff, a more primed Ali would've given Frazier all that he could handle in the first fight, agreed?

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post Feb 1 2013, 07:10 PM
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Can't comment on something I don't know much about. Was he the greatest? I don't know, it's like me saying Diego Maradona was the greatest footballer ever. I never saw Ali with my own two eyes. He was the greatest of his era/generation, and one of the greats. Actually am re watching that fight now

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post Feb 1 2013, 07:19 PM
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QUOTE (mgrover @ Feb 1 2013, 07:10 PM) *
Can't comment on something I don't know much about. Was he the greatest? I don't know, it's like me saying Diego Maradona was the greatest footballer ever. I never saw Ali with my own two eyes. He was the greatest of his era/generation, and one of the greats. Actually am re watching that fight now

Diego Maradona? I'll check it out through curiosity.
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post Feb 1 2013, 07:30 PM
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ali was maradona, pele, babe ruth, joe montana, roger staubach, reggie jackson, jim brown, michael jordan, larry bird, magic johnson and every other athlete rolled into one. he transcended the sport like no one before or since. he's a one of a kind who was not only larger than boxing...he was larger than life. he did indeed pump life into boxing. there will never be another like him.
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post Feb 1 2013, 07:58 PM
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QUOTE (Gambit808 @ Feb 2 2013, 12:19 AM) *
Diego Maradona? I'll check it out through curiosity.


The man single handedly well more or less took Argentina through the works cup. Infamous for his hand of God

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post Feb 1 2013, 09:04 PM
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QUOTE (mgrover @ Feb 1 2013, 07:58 PM) *
The man single handedly well more or less took Argentina through the works cup. Infamous for his hand of God

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this guy makes some great videos.
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post Feb 1 2013, 09:59 PM
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QUOTE (mgrover @ Feb 1 2013, 07:58 PM) *
The man single handedly well more or less took Argentina through the works cup. Infamous for his hand of God

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Agreed. Gorilla P. always put down epic highlights. HBO & Showtime should take notes or endorse em.
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post Feb 2 2013, 12:16 AM
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Though I wasn't yet born in his era of fighting, having studied tapes of Ali's fights, I wouldn't be upset if someone thought Ali was the best. He transcended the sport not only in his era but his presence is still being felt in the sport and the world today. Jot too many athletes outside of him, Jordan, and a few others can lay claim to that. But... Pep and Ray Robinson also deserve a mention as the GOAT
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post Feb 2 2013, 07:02 PM
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Without a doubt he was the greatest in the sense of promoting the sport to the level that the world wanted him to succeed in his fight against the U.S> Govt standing up as a Humanitarian and making a very bold statement during an era where racism was still a part of the norm/outright and condoned by law when he said "Ain't no Vietnamese ever called me nigg_"!

As far as his skills, I wouldn't say he was the greatest, he had his flaws but his underrated physical toughness and ability to take any shot and not be KO'd was second to none, even the big punching George Foreman couldn't stand up to Muhammad's punches but yet Ali was able to take everything the hardest puncher in boxing had thrown and still put him to sleep.

Ali did transcend the sport with his popularity and make it the most popular sport in the world because of his stance against the system of oppression that was not only recognized in America but for those who were impoverished world-wide.

Yes, he was/is the Greatest in that sense this sport has ever known.
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post Feb 2 2013, 07:22 PM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Feb 1 2013, 07:30 PM) *
ali was maradona, pele, babe ruth, joe montana, roger staubach, reggie jackson, jim brown, michael jordan, larry bird, magic johnson and every other athlete rolled into one. he transcended the sport like no one before or since. he's a one of a kind who was not only larger than boxing...he was larger than life. he did indeed pump life into boxing. there will never be another like him.


Ali getting waylaid by the system in his prime, definitely affected him. As an overall boxing product (in and outside of the ring), I'm fine with him being considered the greatest. Inside the ring, the debates can go on forever.

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