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mgrover
post Feb 10 2013, 07:30 AM
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When do you think the decline started? A lot of people have said around the time he fought Clottey, others say around the time he fought Margarito. Personally am not quite sure, whether it was the decline of Pac or more the exposure around the time of the Mosley fight.
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mrchitown
post Feb 22 2013, 07:55 PM
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@KOpower, if many people don't think his run was impressive then theirs a reason for that. As far as Mayweather and RJJ being matched well. So was Manny, we can go back and forth with that one til we're blue in the face. At least 2 out of the 3 didn't drain their opponents and put in catch weights and other stipulations.

True enough, he had an impressive record against the Mexican trio you speak of but many believe he lost those Marquez fights and we seen the outcome of his last fight against one of them. But I'm not talking about what he did to Barrera and Morales, I'm speaking on his run from 08 up until recently. It was not impressive. I respect him for the worldwide attn he bought the sport but he isn't what alot of people make him out to be

Beating Oscar when he looked mediocre against Forbes and was weight drained and half way retired doesn't merit the accolades you give him. Hatton never looked the same after Mayweather bounced him from ring post to ring post. I could go on and on but I won't. I guess it's subjective but I'm not praising anyone for not taking the challenge that is fair to both parties. He fought fighters coming off of long layoffs and catch weights but people think he's the best thing to happen to boxing, I don't. That's like me giving credit to a team beating the Heat in the finals and Lebron wasn't playing. You may have win the title but you KNOW you didn't beat them at their best. He won but he didn't beat those fighters at their best, and that is a fact.

He took on some big names but he also had an unfair advantage, you can say what you want about Floyd, RJJ, but at least the weight and the fights were on an even playing field. Floyd, RJJ, and even Hopkins are ALL better then Manny IMO
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post Feb 22 2013, 08:46 PM
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QUOTE (mrchitown @ Feb 22 2013, 05:55 PM) *
@KOpower, if many people don't think his run was impressive then theirs a reason for that. As far as Mayweather and RJJ being matched well. So was Manny, we can go back and forth with that one til we're blue in the face. At least 2 out of the 3 didn't drain their opponents and put in catch weights and other stipulations.

True enough, he had an impressive record against the Mexican trio you speak of but many believe he lost those Marquez fights and we seen the outcome of his last fight against one of them. But I'm not talking about what he did to Barrera and Morales, I'm speaking on his run from 08 up until recently. It was not impressive. I respect him for the worldwide attn he bought the sport but he isn't what alot of people make him out to be

Beating Oscar when he looked mediocre against Forbes and was weight drained and half way retired doesn't merit the accolades you give him. Hatton never looked the same after Mayweather bounced him from ring post to ring post. I could go on and on but I won't. I guess it's subjective but I'm not praising anyone for not taking the challenge that is fair to both parties. He fought fighters coming off of long layoffs and catch weights but people think he's the best thing to happen to boxing, I don't. That's like me giving credit to a team beating the Heat in the finals and Lebron wasn't playing. You may have win the title but you KNOW you didn't beat them at their best. He won but he didn't beat those fighters at their best, and that is a fact.

He took on some big names but he also had an unfair advantage, you can say what you want about Floyd, RJJ, but at least the weight and the fights were on an even playing field. Floyd, RJJ, and even Hopkins are ALL better then Manny IMO


Speaking of the Heat they beat the Bulls. The Bulls lost that game. they could not score.
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QUOTE (Dolimite @ Feb 22 2013, 09:46 PM) *
Speaking of the Heat they beat the Bulls. The Bulls lost that game. they could not score.


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- mgrover   The Decline of Manny Pacquiao   Feb 10 2013, 07:30 AM
- - Dric   I would say after the Margarito fight, it was down...   Feb 10 2013, 09:32 AM
- - Plah   I haven't seen any really, Marquez has his num...   Feb 10 2013, 11:24 AM
|- - Dolimite   QUOTE (Plah @ Feb 10 2013, 08:24 AM) I ha...   Feb 10 2013, 03:14 PM
|- - Marcus   QUOTE (Plah @ Feb 10 2013, 11:24 AM) I ha...   Feb 10 2013, 04:39 PM
- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (mgrover @ Feb 10 2013, 07:30 AM) W...   Feb 10 2013, 03:59 PM
- - mitukczuk   To me he didn't really even have a peak (skill...   Feb 10 2013, 04:18 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (mitukczuk @ Feb 10 2013, 04:18 PM)...   Feb 10 2013, 04:56 PM
- - xxxxxx   If you watch the Pacquiao-Margarito fight...Margar...   Feb 11 2013, 01:15 AM
- - mrchitown   IMO his decline started after the Cotto fight. Rea...   Feb 11 2013, 10:10 PM
|- - KOpower   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Feb 11 2013, 10:10 PM)...   Feb 17 2013, 08:17 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (KOpower @ Feb 17 2013, 07:17 PM) T...   Feb 17 2013, 11:22 PM
|- - KOpower   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Feb 17 2013, 11:22 PM)...   Feb 18 2013, 10:13 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (KOpower @ Feb 18 2013, 09:13 PM) L...   Feb 18 2013, 11:55 PM
|- - KOpower   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Feb 18 2013, 11:55 PM)...   Feb 22 2013, 06:24 PM
|- - Dolimite   QUOTE (KOpower @ Feb 22 2013, 03:24 PM) H...   Feb 22 2013, 07:22 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (KOpower @ Feb 22 2013, 07:24 PM) H...   Feb 22 2013, 08:44 PM
||- - KOpower   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Feb 22 2013, 08:44 P...   Feb 22 2013, 10:42 PM
|- - sduck   QUOTE (KOpower @ Feb 22 2013, 06:24 PM) H...   Feb 22 2013, 09:25 PM
- - Franchize   When he started fighting people who knew how to bo...   Feb 12 2013, 09:12 AM
- - flazi   styles makes fights. as long as manny fights boxe...   Feb 12 2013, 02:27 PM
|- - Dric   QUOTE (flazi @ Feb 12 2013, 02:27 PM) sty...   Feb 13 2013, 04:56 PM
- - daprofessor   i don't know if i can call it a decline. he...   Feb 12 2013, 02:42 PM
- - flazi   5 more fights is being generous. i hope he has 5 ...   Feb 14 2013, 06:22 PM
- - Dolimite   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Feb 12 2013, 12:42 P...   Feb 17 2013, 05:22 PM
- - The Original MrFactor   When the heat got turned up about PEDs is when Man...   Feb 17 2013, 07:04 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (The Original MrFactor @ Feb 17 2013, 0...   Feb 17 2013, 07:51 PM
- - sduck   There is no decline for him as a fighter, but for ...   Feb 22 2013, 06:57 AM
- - ks1   For his sake, I hope Pac winds up with some money ...   Feb 22 2013, 04:50 PM
- - mrchitown   @KOpower, if many people don't think his run w...   Feb 22 2013, 07:55 PM
|- - Dolimite   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Feb 22 2013, 05:55 PM)...   Feb 22 2013, 08:46 PM
||- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Feb 22 2013, 09:46 PM) ...   Feb 22 2013, 08:53 PM
||- - mrchitown   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Feb 22 2013, 07:46 PM) ...   Feb 23 2013, 12:09 AM
|- - KOpower   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Feb 22 2013, 07:55 PM)...   Feb 22 2013, 10:51 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (KOpower @ Feb 23 2013, 03:51 AM) M...   Feb 22 2013, 11:43 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (KOpower @ Feb 22 2013, 09:51 PM) M...   Feb 23 2013, 12:23 AM
- - Dolimite   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Feb 22 2013, 09:09 PM)...   Feb 23 2013, 12:37 AM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Feb 22 2013, 11:37 PM) ...   Feb 23 2013, 01:42 AM
- - mgrover   I don't get why people make a massive deal out...   Feb 23 2013, 06:26 AM
- - KOpower   I think it is important to find out where you guys...   Feb 23 2013, 10:13 AM
- - KOpower   BTW, it also isn't fair to say that Mayweather...   Feb 23 2013, 10:22 AM
|- - Dolimite   QUOTE (KOpower @ Feb 23 2013, 08:22 AM) B...   Feb 23 2013, 11:08 AM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (KOpower @ Feb 23 2013, 10:22 AM) B...   Feb 23 2013, 10:59 AM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Feb 23 2013, 11:08 AM) ...   Feb 23 2013, 11:14 AM
|- - Dolimite   QUOTE (checkleft @ Feb 23 2013, 09:14 AM)...   Feb 23 2013, 11:24 AM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Feb 23 2013, 11:24 AM) ...   Feb 23 2013, 11:31 AM
|- - Dolimite   QUOTE (checkleft @ Feb 23 2013, 08:31 AM)...   Feb 23 2013, 02:17 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Feb 23 2013, 02:17 PM) ...   Feb 23 2013, 07:12 PM


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