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> Is he better now or then?? Is his legs gone?? (Floyd Mayweather), Did he lose a step or two?? You be the Judge
BrutUalBK
post Feb 12 2013, 06:03 PM
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Many people say that Floyd is better today than he was years ago but honestly I must say that the younger, faster Floyd got hit far less than he does today and I know that makes for a more action-packed/competitive bout because he's taking more risks standing in the pocket and trading but he never got hit as much when he was using his legs more.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK9en6g9JTQ <<<His Defensive abilities

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK9en6g9JTQ <<<His Offensive abilities


Though the uneducated casual observer (those who do not know the difference between Boxing and Brawling) would say he was a Runner, I still favored his earlier style using his legs to box and not get hit than I do the more Crowd Pleasing Style today.

So, is he better today or then? Or did he lose a step or two??

Your thoughts???
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post Feb 13 2013, 12:41 PM
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I'm almost convinced that Floyd fans are making me not like the guy nowadays. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

On a real note, I have seen him slow down a bit in his last few fights. Maybe he just super relaxed, who knows? As for his legs, I believe they were terrible in the Mosley fight. Well, not terrible, but not in tip top shape. Im not harping on Mosley being a pubic's hair length away from dropping him in the 2nd round, but overall.

For some reason, Floyd's body language in the Mosley and Cotto fights, gave me a hunch that he was somewhat forced into those fights. Honestly, his "hit and not get hit" fighting style, seemed have a liiiitle bit more added pressure than we're used to seeing, and I incorporate that his PPV rivalries with Manny over the past few years.

What I mean by PPV rivalries, is of course his opponent selection, overall numbers, and the pressure to not look bad for one second in his recent fights. Let's all be honest here, most (if not all of us) were looking for signs of wear & tear in both of these guys as they went head up in rivalry PPV events. People were buying both of their fights, to see who looked better (or worse), which added more buss to the fight.

Nowadays, I dont necessarily believe his legs are gone, but we don't see him circling around the ring like we used to. In the 12th round of the Cotto fight, he didn't look like himself while circling the ring, but that's just my observation. Its not a question as to whether grandfather time has caught up with him, the bigger question is, who has enough skill and patience to expose?
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post Feb 13 2013, 02:16 PM
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QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Feb 13 2013, 12:41 PM) *
1.I'm almost convinced that Floyd fans are making me not like the guy nowadays. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

On a real note, I have seen him slow down a bit in his last few fights. Maybe he just super relaxed, who knows? 2.As for his legs, I believe they were terrible in the Mosley fight. Well, not terrible, but not in tip top shape. Im not harping on Mosley being a pubic's hair length away from dropping him in the 2nd round, but overall.

For some reason, Floyd's body language in the Mosley and Cotto fights, gave me a hunch that3. he was somewhat forced into those fights. Honestly, his "hit and not get hit" fighting style, seemed have a liiiitle bit more added pressure than we're used to seeing, and I incorporate that his PPV rivalries with Manny over the past few years.

What I mean by PPV rivalries, is of course his opponent selection, overall numbers, and the pressure to not look bad for one second in his recent fights. Let's all be honest here, most (if not all of us) were looking for signs of wear & tear in both of these guys as they went head up in rivalry PPV events. 4.People were buying both of their fights, to see who looked better (or worse), which added more buss to the fight.

Nowadays, I dont necessarily believe his legs are gone, but we don't see him circling around the ring like we used to. In the 12th round of the Cotto fight, he didn't look like himself while circling the ring, but that's just my observation. Its not a question as to whether grandfather time has caught up with him, the bigger question is, 5.who has enough skill and patience to expose?


1. The thing I've noticed though in regards to most Floyd fans is that they do tend to be more fans of the sport instead of just a bandwagon Mayweather fan and they tend to be more realistic than most of these internet Pacquiao fans.

2. I thought his legs looked like they sustained him well in the fight with Shane, in fact, I'd go so far to say that he was very fortunate to have had those stronger legs otherwise he would've hit the canvas.

3. I disagree that Floyd was forced into those fights, I believe he wanted Shane a long time ago and Cotto as well. Try not to forget that Cotto was a Top Rank fighter protected by Bob Arum from Floyd for a long time, if I can recall correctly when Bob was trying to get Margo the fight with Floyd that Mayweather only wanted that fight if it included a bout with Cotto for 10 million but Arum balked at the idea. <<<I might be wrong on that but I do remember vaguely that there was a couple of bouts Floyd asked Bob for and one of them included Cotto for 10 mil.

4. I think many people started to look for comparisons of Floyd to Manny and vice versa as if that would determine who would win, I can recall many debates with fans of Pac that stated stuff like well he beat Oscar and Ricky better and from some Mayweather fans stating well he beat JMM far easier and he beat Oscar first and not at a CW. So you're right, people were doing some sort of reckoning but i don't think none of that would've mattered if they were to get it on.

5. Skill will definitely be a plus when dealing with Floyd but patience will not get it done, you need someone with a high work rate a great jab, equal or better speed and equal or better defense to beat Floyd and then after that you still need someone with a high ring IQ. Honestly right now there are only about 2 guys I can think of that have those things that can offset Floyd's skills, Martinez and Trout.

Tall, rangy, SPs with a great jab and enough pop will help to keep Floyd honest but there aren't that many of them in the game today and especially in the WW or Jr MW division.
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- BrutUalBK   Is he better now or then?? Is his legs gone?? (Floyd Mayweather)   Feb 12 2013, 06:03 PM
- - mgrover   we'll see in the Guererro fight if his legs ar...   Feb 12 2013, 06:31 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (mgrover @ Feb 12 2013, 07:31 PM) w...   Feb 12 2013, 06:44 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (mgrover @ Feb 12 2013, 06:31 PM) w...   Feb 12 2013, 07:52 PM
- - pimpfighterROQ   Well he is 36 now. That is old in boxing standards...   Feb 12 2013, 07:04 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (pimpfighterROQ @ Feb 12 2013, 08:0...   Feb 12 2013, 07:31 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Feb 12 2013, 06:03 PM)...   Feb 12 2013, 09:35 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (checkleft @ Feb 12 2013, 09:35 PM)...   Feb 13 2013, 10:04 AM
- - mrchitown   I don't know if I'd say his legs are gone,...   Feb 12 2013, 09:59 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Feb 12 2013, 09:59 PM)...   Feb 13 2013, 10:06 AM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Feb 12 2013, 09:59 PM)...   Feb 13 2013, 01:15 AM
- - mitukczuk   I don't understand how this can even be an iss...   Feb 13 2013, 04:04 AM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (mitukczuk @ Feb 13 2013, 09:04 AM)...   Feb 13 2013, 08:20 AM
||- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (mgrover @ Feb 13 2013, 08:20 AM) I...   Feb 13 2013, 10:01 AM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (mitukczuk @ Feb 13 2013, 04:04 AM)...   Feb 13 2013, 10:14 AM
- - Cshel86   I'm almost convinced that Floyd fans are makin...   Feb 13 2013, 12:41 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Feb 13 2013, 12:41 PM) 1...   Feb 13 2013, 02:16 PM
||- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Feb 13 2013, 02:16 PM)...   Feb 14 2013, 08:36 AM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Feb 13 2013, 12:41 PM) I...   Feb 14 2013, 08:47 AM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Feb 14 2013, 08:47 A...   Feb 14 2013, 09:12 AM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Feb 14 2013, 09:12 AM) L...   Feb 18 2013, 10:00 AM
- - daprofessor   i'll echo what someone else said...of course h...   Feb 13 2013, 02:05 PM
- - Dolimite   If he fights toe to toe he is losing his legs, if ...   Feb 13 2013, 10:11 PM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Feb 13 2013, 02:16 PM)...   Feb 14 2013, 09:05 AM
|- - Dolimite   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Feb 14 2013, 09:05 AM) I...   Feb 14 2013, 08:18 PM
- - The Original MrFactor   The Mayweather that beat the snot out of Diego Cor...   Feb 15 2013, 03:10 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (The Original MrFactor @ Feb 15 2013, 0...   Feb 15 2013, 11:07 PM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Feb 15 2013, 11:07 PM)...   Feb 19 2013, 12:31 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Feb 19 2013, 12:31 P...   Feb 19 2013, 05:54 PM
- - neophyte7   Last I checked Floyd had both of his legs... when ...   Feb 18 2013, 07:52 PM
- - checkleft   His legs were great in the Shane fight. Watch the ...   Feb 18 2013, 09:20 PM
- - MaxPayne   I don't buy this. He was using his wheels in...   Feb 19 2013, 06:11 AM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (MaxPayne @ Feb 19 2013, 06:11 AM) ...   Feb 19 2013, 12:26 PM
- - neophyte7   In boxing you don't need foot speed. You need ...   Feb 19 2013, 12:03 PM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (neophyte7 @ Feb 19 2013, 12:03 PM)...   Feb 19 2013, 12:27 PM
- - sduck   Nope, nope, nope, and...NOPE! The only clear ...   Feb 22 2013, 07:23 AM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (sduck @ Feb 22 2013, 07:23 AM) Nop...   Feb 22 2013, 06:44 PM
|- - Dolimite   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Feb 22 2013, 03:44 PM)...   Feb 22 2013, 07:25 PM
|- - sduck   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Feb 22 2013, 06:44 PM)...   Feb 22 2013, 09:46 PM
|- - Dolimite   QUOTE (sduck @ Feb 22 2013, 06:46 PM) I...   Feb 23 2013, 12:21 AM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (sduck @ Feb 22 2013, 09:46 PM) 1. ...   Feb 23 2013, 04:58 AM
|- - sduck   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Feb 23 2013, 04:58 AM)...   Feb 23 2013, 07:54 AM
- - checkleft   The reason he might have looked feather fisted in ...   Feb 23 2013, 11:17 AM


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