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> Is he better now or then?? Is his legs gone?? (Floyd Mayweather), Did he lose a step or two?? You be the Judge
BrutUalBK
post Feb 12 2013, 06:03 PM
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Many people say that Floyd is better today than he was years ago but honestly I must say that the younger, faster Floyd got hit far less than he does today and I know that makes for a more action-packed/competitive bout because he's taking more risks standing in the pocket and trading but he never got hit as much when he was using his legs more.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK9en6g9JTQ <<<His Defensive abilities

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK9en6g9JTQ <<<His Offensive abilities


Though the uneducated casual observer (those who do not know the difference between Boxing and Brawling) would say he was a Runner, I still favored his earlier style using his legs to box and not get hit than I do the more Crowd Pleasing Style today.

So, is he better today or then? Or did he lose a step or two??

Your thoughts???
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sduck
post Feb 22 2013, 07:23 AM
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Nope, nope, nope, and...NOPE!

The only clear decline I see and still ever saw is punching power. His reflexes look sharper in some fights than other fights... It's called human consistency. You also have to look at the way people fight. Styles make fights guys, stop forgetting this. People make too big of a deal out of some performances. Like Corrales for example was tailor made for the way Floyd chose to fight. Not taking anything from Floyd, giving him credit for pulling the performance off as good as he did, but that fight itself doesn't just determine how else he'd do against other fighters.

Why do people still mention the Castillo fight as if there wasn't TWO fights?
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post Feb 22 2013, 06:44 PM
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QUOTE (sduck @ Feb 22 2013, 07:23 AM) *
Nope, nope, nope, and...NOPE!

The only clear decline I see and still ever saw is 1. punching power. His reflexes look sharper in some fights than other fights... It's called human consistency. You also have to look at the way people fight. Styles make fights guys, stop forgetting this. People make too big of a deal out of some performances. Like Corrales for example was tailor made for the way Floyd chose to fight. Not taking anything from Floyd, giving him credit for pulling the performance off as good as he did, but that fight itself doesn't just determine how else he'd do against other fighters.

2. Why do people still mention the Castillo fight as if there wasn't TWO fights?



1. I don't think Floyd has lost punching power (see the Ortiz KO for reference), I do believe that he has never been a big puncher but one who's punches come very quickly and the speed of which they come are stunning/surprising to the opponent. I always believed that it was possible for Floyd to KO many of his opponents but he never really sets down on his shots and that is why his punching power isn't perceived to be as good<<<the Ortiz punch KO dispells that myth.

2. Most of us only mention that fight because it is one in which many felt he lost and if not, at least it was probably his most closely contested fight, as much a fan I'am of his I have to admit that I felt he lost that fight but wasn't dominated/beaten. In the rematch he made it obvious that he won.
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- BrutUalBK   Is he better now or then?? Is his legs gone?? (Floyd Mayweather)   Feb 12 2013, 06:03 PM
- - mgrover   we'll see in the Guererro fight if his legs ar...   Feb 12 2013, 06:31 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (mgrover @ Feb 12 2013, 07:31 PM) w...   Feb 12 2013, 06:44 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (mgrover @ Feb 12 2013, 06:31 PM) w...   Feb 12 2013, 07:52 PM
- - pimpfighterROQ   Well he is 36 now. That is old in boxing standards...   Feb 12 2013, 07:04 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (pimpfighterROQ @ Feb 12 2013, 08:0...   Feb 12 2013, 07:31 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Feb 12 2013, 06:03 PM)...   Feb 12 2013, 09:35 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (checkleft @ Feb 12 2013, 09:35 PM)...   Feb 13 2013, 10:04 AM
- - mrchitown   I don't know if I'd say his legs are gone,...   Feb 12 2013, 09:59 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Feb 12 2013, 09:59 PM)...   Feb 13 2013, 10:06 AM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Feb 12 2013, 09:59 PM)...   Feb 13 2013, 01:15 AM
- - mitukczuk   I don't understand how this can even be an iss...   Feb 13 2013, 04:04 AM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (mitukczuk @ Feb 13 2013, 09:04 AM)...   Feb 13 2013, 08:20 AM
||- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (mgrover @ Feb 13 2013, 08:20 AM) I...   Feb 13 2013, 10:01 AM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (mitukczuk @ Feb 13 2013, 04:04 AM)...   Feb 13 2013, 10:14 AM
- - Cshel86   I'm almost convinced that Floyd fans are makin...   Feb 13 2013, 12:41 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Feb 13 2013, 12:41 PM) 1...   Feb 13 2013, 02:16 PM
||- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Feb 13 2013, 02:16 PM)...   Feb 14 2013, 08:36 AM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Feb 13 2013, 12:41 PM) I...   Feb 14 2013, 08:47 AM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Feb 14 2013, 08:47 A...   Feb 14 2013, 09:12 AM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Feb 14 2013, 09:12 AM) L...   Feb 18 2013, 10:00 AM
- - daprofessor   i'll echo what someone else said...of course h...   Feb 13 2013, 02:05 PM
- - Dolimite   If he fights toe to toe he is losing his legs, if ...   Feb 13 2013, 10:11 PM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Feb 13 2013, 02:16 PM)...   Feb 14 2013, 09:05 AM
|- - Dolimite   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Feb 14 2013, 09:05 AM) I...   Feb 14 2013, 08:18 PM
- - The Original MrFactor   The Mayweather that beat the snot out of Diego Cor...   Feb 15 2013, 03:10 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (The Original MrFactor @ Feb 15 2013, 0...   Feb 15 2013, 11:07 PM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Feb 15 2013, 11:07 PM)...   Feb 19 2013, 12:31 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Feb 19 2013, 12:31 P...   Feb 19 2013, 05:54 PM
- - neophyte7   Last I checked Floyd had both of his legs... when ...   Feb 18 2013, 07:52 PM
- - checkleft   His legs were great in the Shane fight. Watch the ...   Feb 18 2013, 09:20 PM
- - MaxPayne   I don't buy this. He was using his wheels in...   Feb 19 2013, 06:11 AM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (MaxPayne @ Feb 19 2013, 06:11 AM) ...   Feb 19 2013, 12:26 PM
- - neophyte7   In boxing you don't need foot speed. You need ...   Feb 19 2013, 12:03 PM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (neophyte7 @ Feb 19 2013, 12:03 PM)...   Feb 19 2013, 12:27 PM
- - sduck   Nope, nope, nope, and...NOPE! The only clear ...   Feb 22 2013, 07:23 AM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (sduck @ Feb 22 2013, 07:23 AM) Nop...   Feb 22 2013, 06:44 PM
|- - Dolimite   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Feb 22 2013, 03:44 PM)...   Feb 22 2013, 07:25 PM
|- - sduck   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Feb 22 2013, 06:44 PM)...   Feb 22 2013, 09:46 PM
|- - Dolimite   QUOTE (sduck @ Feb 22 2013, 06:46 PM) I...   Feb 23 2013, 12:21 AM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (sduck @ Feb 22 2013, 09:46 PM) 1. ...   Feb 23 2013, 04:58 AM
|- - sduck   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Feb 23 2013, 04:58 AM)...   Feb 23 2013, 07:54 AM
- - checkleft   The reason he might have looked feather fisted in ...   Feb 23 2013, 11:17 AM


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