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> Is he better now or then?? Is his legs gone?? (Floyd Mayweather), Did he lose a step or two?? You be the Judge
BrutUalBK
post Feb 12 2013, 06:03 PM
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Many people say that Floyd is better today than he was years ago but honestly I must say that the younger, faster Floyd got hit far less than he does today and I know that makes for a more action-packed/competitive bout because he's taking more risks standing in the pocket and trading but he never got hit as much when he was using his legs more.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK9en6g9JTQ <<<His Defensive abilities

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK9en6g9JTQ <<<His Offensive abilities


Though the uneducated casual observer (those who do not know the difference between Boxing and Brawling) would say he was a Runner, I still favored his earlier style using his legs to box and not get hit than I do the more Crowd Pleasing Style today.

So, is he better today or then? Or did he lose a step or two??

Your thoughts???
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Cshel86
post Feb 13 2013, 12:41 PM
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I'm almost convinced that Floyd fans are making me not like the guy nowadays. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

On a real note, I have seen him slow down a bit in his last few fights. Maybe he just super relaxed, who knows? As for his legs, I believe they were terrible in the Mosley fight. Well, not terrible, but not in tip top shape. Im not harping on Mosley being a pubic's hair length away from dropping him in the 2nd round, but overall.

For some reason, Floyd's body language in the Mosley and Cotto fights, gave me a hunch that he was somewhat forced into those fights. Honestly, his "hit and not get hit" fighting style, seemed have a liiiitle bit more added pressure than we're used to seeing, and I incorporate that his PPV rivalries with Manny over the past few years.

What I mean by PPV rivalries, is of course his opponent selection, overall numbers, and the pressure to not look bad for one second in his recent fights. Let's all be honest here, most (if not all of us) were looking for signs of wear & tear in both of these guys as they went head up in rivalry PPV events. People were buying both of their fights, to see who looked better (or worse), which added more buss to the fight.

Nowadays, I dont necessarily believe his legs are gone, but we don't see him circling around the ring like we used to. In the 12th round of the Cotto fight, he didn't look like himself while circling the ring, but that's just my observation. Its not a question as to whether grandfather time has caught up with him, the bigger question is, who has enough skill and patience to expose?
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post Feb 14 2013, 08:47 AM
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QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Feb 13 2013, 12:41 PM) *
I'm almost convinced that Floyd fans are making me not like the guy nowadays. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

On a real note, I have seen him slow down a bit in his last few fights. Maybe he just super relaxed, who knows? As for his legs, I believe they were terrible in the Mosley fight. Well, not terrible, but not in tip top shape. Im not harping on Mosley being a pubic's hair length away from dropping him in the 2nd round, but overall.

For some reason, Floyd's body language in the Mosley and Cotto fights, gave me a hunch that he was somewhat forced into those fights. Honestly, his "hit and not get hit" fighting style, seemed have a liiiitle bit more added pressure than we're used to seeing, and I incorporate that his PPV rivalries with Manny over the past few years.


On the contrary, I thought his legs looked good...dayum good (to include and ESPECIALLY his near death experience w/ those two Mosley rights..lol). I think that was part of the plan w/ him. He said early in the that training, he wasn't going to move and what not, he was gonna walk him down. Because that fight was personal to Floyd (though he won't admit it), I believe he and Roger (okay...just Floyd..lol) devised a plan to KO Shane. He knew then what we all KNOW about Shane now, when the going gets tough, Shane wants to touch gloves and hold. So, in short, I think that was more game plan than it was aging. Plus, this wasn't an issue until Freddie Roach jumped out of the bushes like Eddie Cain from 5 Heartbeats, with the whole, "Floyd's legs are gone..."
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post Feb 14 2013, 09:12 AM
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QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Feb 14 2013, 08:47 AM) *
On the contrary, I thought his legs looked good...dayum good (to include and ESPECIALLY his near death experience w/ those two Mosley rights..lol). I think that was part of the plan w/ him. He said early in the that training, he wasn't going to move and what not, he was gonna walk him down. Because that fight was personal to Floyd (though he won't admit it), I believe he and Roger (okay...just Floyd..lol) devised a plan to KO Shane. He knew then what we all KNOW about Shane now, when the going gets tough, Shane wants to touch gloves and hold. So, in short, I think that was more game plan than it was aging. Plus, this wasn't an issue until Freddie Roach jumped out of the bushes like Eddie Cain from 5 Heartbeats, with the whole, "Floyd's legs are gone..."

LMAO at "jumped out of the bushes like Eddie Cain"!

I agree though, nobody even mentioned Floyd's legs, until Freddie mentioned it. Now that you mentioned the Shane fight being personal, maybe that's why I though Floyd looked a bit unsettled. Again, that's just my observation...for what reason, I dont know, it just appeared that way.

As Brut already mentioned, if his legs were gone, then he would've gone down on those two right hands. He DID keep the pressure on Shane, which led me to believe that he was going for the KO. I almost compared it to miserable white-collar employee going balls-deep in $2 prost...well, you get my point.

I just like to throw some things out there, and see what you guys think...you know, just to stir things up a bit. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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- BrutUalBK   Is he better now or then?? Is his legs gone?? (Floyd Mayweather)   Feb 12 2013, 06:03 PM
- - mgrover   we'll see in the Guererro fight if his legs ar...   Feb 12 2013, 06:31 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (mgrover @ Feb 12 2013, 07:31 PM) w...   Feb 12 2013, 06:44 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (mgrover @ Feb 12 2013, 06:31 PM) w...   Feb 12 2013, 07:52 PM
- - pimpfighterROQ   Well he is 36 now. That is old in boxing standards...   Feb 12 2013, 07:04 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (pimpfighterROQ @ Feb 12 2013, 08:0...   Feb 12 2013, 07:31 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Feb 12 2013, 06:03 PM)...   Feb 12 2013, 09:35 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (checkleft @ Feb 12 2013, 09:35 PM)...   Feb 13 2013, 10:04 AM
- - mrchitown   I don't know if I'd say his legs are gone,...   Feb 12 2013, 09:59 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Feb 12 2013, 09:59 PM)...   Feb 13 2013, 10:06 AM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Feb 12 2013, 09:59 PM)...   Feb 13 2013, 01:15 AM
- - mitukczuk   I don't understand how this can even be an iss...   Feb 13 2013, 04:04 AM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (mitukczuk @ Feb 13 2013, 09:04 AM)...   Feb 13 2013, 08:20 AM
||- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (mgrover @ Feb 13 2013, 08:20 AM) I...   Feb 13 2013, 10:01 AM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (mitukczuk @ Feb 13 2013, 04:04 AM)...   Feb 13 2013, 10:14 AM
- - Cshel86   I'm almost convinced that Floyd fans are makin...   Feb 13 2013, 12:41 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Feb 13 2013, 12:41 PM) 1...   Feb 13 2013, 02:16 PM
||- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Feb 13 2013, 02:16 PM)...   Feb 14 2013, 08:36 AM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Feb 13 2013, 12:41 PM) I...   Feb 14 2013, 08:47 AM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Feb 14 2013, 08:47 A...   Feb 14 2013, 09:12 AM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Feb 14 2013, 09:12 AM) L...   Feb 18 2013, 10:00 AM
- - daprofessor   i'll echo what someone else said...of course h...   Feb 13 2013, 02:05 PM
- - Dolimite   If he fights toe to toe he is losing his legs, if ...   Feb 13 2013, 10:11 PM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Feb 13 2013, 02:16 PM)...   Feb 14 2013, 09:05 AM
|- - Dolimite   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Feb 14 2013, 09:05 AM) I...   Feb 14 2013, 08:18 PM
- - The Original MrFactor   The Mayweather that beat the snot out of Diego Cor...   Feb 15 2013, 03:10 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (The Original MrFactor @ Feb 15 2013, 0...   Feb 15 2013, 11:07 PM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Feb 15 2013, 11:07 PM)...   Feb 19 2013, 12:31 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Feb 19 2013, 12:31 P...   Feb 19 2013, 05:54 PM
- - neophyte7   Last I checked Floyd had both of his legs... when ...   Feb 18 2013, 07:52 PM
- - checkleft   His legs were great in the Shane fight. Watch the ...   Feb 18 2013, 09:20 PM
- - MaxPayne   I don't buy this. He was using his wheels in...   Feb 19 2013, 06:11 AM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (MaxPayne @ Feb 19 2013, 06:11 AM) ...   Feb 19 2013, 12:26 PM
- - neophyte7   In boxing you don't need foot speed. You need ...   Feb 19 2013, 12:03 PM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (neophyte7 @ Feb 19 2013, 12:03 PM)...   Feb 19 2013, 12:27 PM
- - sduck   Nope, nope, nope, and...NOPE! The only clear ...   Feb 22 2013, 07:23 AM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (sduck @ Feb 22 2013, 07:23 AM) Nop...   Feb 22 2013, 06:44 PM
|- - Dolimite   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Feb 22 2013, 03:44 PM)...   Feb 22 2013, 07:25 PM
|- - sduck   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Feb 22 2013, 06:44 PM)...   Feb 22 2013, 09:46 PM
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|- - sduck   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Feb 23 2013, 04:58 AM)...   Feb 23 2013, 07:54 AM
- - checkleft   The reason he might have looked feather fisted in ...   Feb 23 2013, 11:17 AM


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