Feb 12 2013, 06:03 PM
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Featherweight Group: Members Posts: 546 Joined: 20-June 12 From: Texas Member No.: 13,708 |
Many people say that Floyd is better today than he was years ago but honestly I must say that the younger, faster Floyd got hit far less than he does today and I know that makes for a more action-packed/competitive bout because he's taking more risks standing in the pocket and trading but he never got hit as much when he was using his legs more.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK9en6g9JTQ <<<His Defensive abilities http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK9en6g9JTQ <<<His Offensive abilities Though the uneducated casual observer (those who do not know the difference between Boxing and Brawling) would say he was a Runner, I still favored his earlier style using his legs to box and not get hit than I do the more Crowd Pleasing Style today. So, is he better today or then? Or did he lose a step or two?? Your thoughts??? |
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Feb 22 2013, 07:23 AM
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Lightweight Group: Members Posts: 797 Joined: 14-July 11 Member No.: 12,788 |
Nope, nope, nope, and...NOPE!
The only clear decline I see and still ever saw is punching power. His reflexes look sharper in some fights than other fights... It's called human consistency. You also have to look at the way people fight. Styles make fights guys, stop forgetting this. People make too big of a deal out of some performances. Like Corrales for example was tailor made for the way Floyd chose to fight. Not taking anything from Floyd, giving him credit for pulling the performance off as good as he did, but that fight itself doesn't just determine how else he'd do against other fighters. Why do people still mention the Castillo fight as if there wasn't TWO fights? |
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Feb 22 2013, 06:44 PM
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Featherweight Group: Members Posts: 546 Joined: 20-June 12 From: Texas Member No.: 13,708 |
Nope, nope, nope, and...NOPE! The only clear decline I see and still ever saw is 1. punching power. His reflexes look sharper in some fights than other fights... It's called human consistency. You also have to look at the way people fight. Styles make fights guys, stop forgetting this. People make too big of a deal out of some performances. Like Corrales for example was tailor made for the way Floyd chose to fight. Not taking anything from Floyd, giving him credit for pulling the performance off as good as he did, but that fight itself doesn't just determine how else he'd do against other fighters. 2. Why do people still mention the Castillo fight as if there wasn't TWO fights? 1. I don't think Floyd has lost punching power (see the Ortiz KO for reference), I do believe that he has never been a big puncher but one who's punches come very quickly and the speed of which they come are stunning/surprising to the opponent. I always believed that it was possible for Floyd to KO many of his opponents but he never really sets down on his shots and that is why his punching power isn't perceived to be as good<<<the Ortiz punch KO dispells that myth. 2. Most of us only mention that fight because it is one in which many felt he lost and if not, at least it was probably his most closely contested fight, as much a fan I'am of his I have to admit that I felt he lost that fight but wasn't dominated/beaten. In the rematch he made it obvious that he won. |
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Feb 22 2013, 07:25 PM
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Lightweight Group: Members Posts: 930 Joined: 16-December 12 From: Fresh Coast Member No.: 13,803 |
1. I don't think Floyd has lost punching power (see the Ortiz KO for reference), I do believe that he has never been a big puncher but one who's punches come very quickly and the speed of which they come are stunning/surprising to the opponent. I always believed that it was possible for Floyd to KO many of his opponents but he never really sets down on his shots and that is why his punching power isn't perceived to be as good<<<the Ortiz punch KO dispells that myth. 2. Most of us only mention that fight because it is one in which many felt he lost and if not, at least it was probably his most closely contested fight, as much a fan I'am of his I have to admit that I felt he lost that fight but wasn't dominated/beaten. In the rematch he made it obvious that he won. Dude I still have trouble judging that first fight. I actually looked at it as a draw. I do not think Castillo fought a clean fight and in the end it cost him. The second fight was no contest win for Mayweather. But that is the hardest fight I ever had to judge. Your honesty is appreciated. Some Floyd fans think that he was perfect in that first fight. I thought it was a draw, plus I do give him a slight pass because of his shoulder injury. |
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BrutUalBK Is he better now or then?? Is his legs gone?? (Floyd Mayweather) Feb 12 2013, 06:03 PM
mgrover we'll see in the Guererro fight if his legs ar... Feb 12 2013, 06:31 PM
daprofessor QUOTE (mgrover @ Feb 12 2013, 07:31 PM) w... Feb 12 2013, 06:44 PM
BrutUalBK QUOTE (mgrover @ Feb 12 2013, 06:31 PM) w... Feb 12 2013, 07:52 PM
pimpfighterROQ Well he is 36 now. That is old in boxing standards... Feb 12 2013, 07:04 PM
daprofessor QUOTE (pimpfighterROQ @ Feb 12 2013, 08:0... Feb 12 2013, 07:31 PM
checkleft QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Feb 12 2013, 06:03 PM)... Feb 12 2013, 09:35 PM
BrutUalBK QUOTE (checkleft @ Feb 12 2013, 09:35 PM)... Feb 13 2013, 10:04 AM
mrchitown I don't know if I'd say his legs are gone,... Feb 12 2013, 09:59 PM
BrutUalBK QUOTE (mrchitown @ Feb 12 2013, 09:59 PM)... Feb 13 2013, 10:06 AM
checkleft QUOTE (mrchitown @ Feb 12 2013, 09:59 PM)... Feb 13 2013, 01:15 AM
mitukczuk I don't understand how this can even be an iss... Feb 13 2013, 04:04 AM
mgrover QUOTE (mitukczuk @ Feb 13 2013, 09:04 AM)... Feb 13 2013, 08:20 AM

BrutUalBK QUOTE (mgrover @ Feb 13 2013, 08:20 AM) I... Feb 13 2013, 10:01 AM
BrutUalBK QUOTE (mitukczuk @ Feb 13 2013, 04:04 AM)... Feb 13 2013, 10:14 AM
Cshel86 I'm almost convinced that Floyd fans are makin... Feb 13 2013, 12:41 PM
BrutUalBK QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Feb 13 2013, 12:41 PM) 1... Feb 13 2013, 02:16 PM

bnoles4life QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Feb 13 2013, 02:16 PM)... Feb 14 2013, 08:36 AM
bnoles4life QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Feb 13 2013, 12:41 PM) I... Feb 14 2013, 08:47 AM
Cshel86 QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Feb 14 2013, 08:47 A... Feb 14 2013, 09:12 AM
bnoles4life QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Feb 14 2013, 09:12 AM) L... Feb 18 2013, 10:00 AM
daprofessor i'll echo what someone else said...of course h... Feb 13 2013, 02:05 PM
Dolimite If he fights toe to toe he is losing his legs, if ... Feb 13 2013, 10:11 PM
Cshel86 QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Feb 13 2013, 02:16 PM)... Feb 14 2013, 09:05 AM
Dolimite QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Feb 14 2013, 09:05 AM) I... Feb 14 2013, 08:18 PM
The Original MrFactor The Mayweather that beat the snot out of Diego Cor... Feb 15 2013, 03:10 PM
BrutUalBK QUOTE (The Original MrFactor @ Feb 15 2013, 0... Feb 15 2013, 11:07 PM
bnoles4life QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Feb 15 2013, 11:07 PM)... Feb 19 2013, 12:31 PM
BrutUalBK QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Feb 19 2013, 12:31 P... Feb 19 2013, 05:54 PM
neophyte7 Last I checked Floyd had both of his legs... when ... Feb 18 2013, 07:52 PM
checkleft His legs were great in the Shane fight. Watch the ... Feb 18 2013, 09:20 PM
MaxPayne I don't buy this.
He was using his wheels in... Feb 19 2013, 06:11 AM
bnoles4life QUOTE (MaxPayne @ Feb 19 2013, 06:11 AM) ... Feb 19 2013, 12:26 PM
neophyte7 In boxing you don't need foot speed. You need ... Feb 19 2013, 12:03 PM
bnoles4life QUOTE (neophyte7 @ Feb 19 2013, 12:03 PM)... Feb 19 2013, 12:27 PM
sduck QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Feb 22 2013, 06:44 PM)... Feb 22 2013, 09:46 PM
Dolimite QUOTE (sduck @ Feb 22 2013, 06:46 PM) I... Feb 23 2013, 12:21 AM
BrutUalBK QUOTE (sduck @ Feb 22 2013, 09:46 PM) 1. ... Feb 23 2013, 04:58 AM
sduck QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Feb 23 2013, 04:58 AM)... Feb 23 2013, 07:54 AM
checkleft The reason he might have looked feather fisted in ... Feb 23 2013, 11:17 AM![]() ![]() |
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