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Cshel86
post Feb 16 2013, 05:54 PM
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Alright guys, Im reaching here...I gotta talk boxing. This boxing drought is getting the best of me. We're all about 0-5 against these cancelled/postponed fights. I was thinking about what Bradley should pursue after his upcoming fight against whoever tha fuck this guy is. I've seen him a fight a couple of times, but the name never stuck with me.

What if Arum decided to give Tim a consolation fight, for not making the Pac rematch happen? What if he can pull Miguel into this, and make it worth it? Obviously, they'd have to fight in NY, because those NY fans dont care if Miguel fights a damn kangaroo, they'll be there to see. What if this fight leads to a Manny rematch for both of these guys?

I'm sure Bradley hasn't gotten that delusional with his newly-acquired, controversial, fame, so I don't thin he'd argue about making the 154 lb limit. A rough and rugged (part-time slick boxer) Bradley, vs a fight 'til the end Cotto. If Miguel fought Trout, with no regards to how tickets sales would pan out, then why not Bradley? A guy who "beat" Manny?..a guy that Cotto lost to?

Thoughts?
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post Feb 21 2013, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Feb 16 2013, 05:54 PM) *
Alright guys, Im reaching here...I gotta talk boxing. This boxing drought is getting the best of me. We're all about 0-5 against these cancelled/postponed fights. I was thinking about what Bradley should pursue after his upcoming fight against whoever tha fuck this guy is. I've seen him a fight a couple of times, but the name never stuck with me.

What if Arum decided to give Tim a consolation fight, for not making the Pac rematch happen? What if he can pull Miguel into this, and make it worth it? Obviously, they'd have to fight in NY, because those NY fans dont care if Miguel fights a damn kangaroo, they'll be there to see. What if this fight leads to a Manny rematch for both of these guys?

I'm sure Bradley hasn't gotten that delusional with his newly-acquired, controversial, fame, so I don't thin he'd argue about making the 154 lb limit. A rough and rugged (part-time slick boxer) Bradley, vs a fight 'til the end Cotto. If Miguel fought Trout, with no regards to how tickets sales would pan out, then why not Bradley? A guy who "beat" Manny?..a guy that Cotto lost to?

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First of all, Bradley isn't moving to 154 anytime soon--sure he walks around at 165ish but when he trains he carries very little bodyfat so he is 147lbs pure muscle so those guys like Trout is too big/tall for him and I think he'll be slower at that weight. Arum is not thinking about marketing Tim (this current fight is proof of that) and a consolation fight isn't happening nor will there be a rematch vs Pac, they (Arum/Roach) are trying to keep Pac as far away as possible from technical fighters like Tim.

The only match up Pac is allowed is someone who walks right in with no defense or they'd rather fight and lose to JMM in a 5th fight but only if that is in Manila/somewhere in the Philippines. Manny should be the one begging Tim for a rematch after Brad's next fight because at least it would be a safe fight for Pac (meaning he won't get put to sleep) but I can guarantee that Manny isn't going to be calling out anyone named Floyd or Bradley.

As far as Cotto (who promotes himself now), he'd be unwilling to fight Manny under Arum because Bob wants Miguel to drain himself to fight Pac, that isn't happening again because Cotto is no longer Bob's slave. I don't think that Tim has been delusional about anything, he wants the best fights out there but Bob Arum isn't willing to have anyone excel ahead of his devalued Cashcow (Manny) which is why he waited so long to try and get Bradley a fight and offered him no rematch with Pac even though they have a rematch clause in their contract.

Forget about 154 with Bradley vs Cotto or anyone else for that matter, it isn't happening and Arum isn't willing to do business with GBP or Floyd.
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post Feb 21 2013, 11:57 AM
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QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Feb 21 2013, 11:03 AM) *
First of all, Bradley isn't moving to 154 anytime soon--sure he walks around at 165ish but when he trains he carries very little bodyfat so he is 147lbs pure muscle so those guys like Trout is too big/tall for him and I think he'll be slower at that weight. Arum is not thinking about marketing Tim (this current fight is proof of that) and a consolation fight isn't happening nor will there be a rematch vs Pac, they (Arum/Roach) are trying to keep Pac as far away as possible from technical fighters like Tim.

The only match up Pac is allowed is someone who walks right in with no defense or they'd rather fight and lose to JMM in a 5th fight but only if that is in Manila/somewhere in the Philippines. Manny should be the one begging Tim for a rematch after Brad's next fight because at least it would be a safe fight for Pac (meaning he won't get put to sleep) but I can guarantee that Manny isn't going to be calling out anyone named Floyd or Bradley.

As far as Cotto (who promotes himself now), he'd be unwilling to fight Manny under Arum because Bob wants Miguel to drain himself to fight Pac, that isn't happening again because Cotto is no longer Bob's slave. I don't think that Tim has been delusional about anything, he wants the best fights out there but Bob Arum isn't willing to have anyone excel ahead of his devalued Cashcow (Manny) which is why he waited so long to try and get Bradley a fight and offered him no rematch with Pac even though they have a rematch clause in their contract.

Forget about 154 with Bradley vs Cotto or anyone else for that matter, it isn't happening and Arum isn't willing to do business with GBP or Floyd.

C'mon Brut, you make it seem as if Bradley is at the "cherry picking" stage of his career, not even close. He could barely capitalize off the robbery win over Manny. Don't get me wrong, he won more rounds than he was given credit for in that fight, but he didn't win that fight.

I agree, Bob has intentions on really promoting Bradley, but there are still some fights out there for Bradley. Cotto IS a free agent, so if the money sounds about right, then I'm sure he wouldn't mind taking the fight. Besides, Cotto sort of shit on his free-agency by taking the Trout fight, which did nothing for his career, other than get him another 'L' and get people started again with the whole "Cotto's" on the downslide.

If he was "smart" enough to take a Trout fight (sarcastically speaking of course, lol), then why not a Bradley fight? Bradley needs names right now, he can pick up where he left off when he at least accomplishes that much. No one said that Tim had to stay at 154, but I'm sure a Cotto fight would pad his pockets more than any possible (in terms of promotional rivalry) fight at WW. Who does have out there? Rios? A never-gonna-happen Manny rematch? JMM who's already looking the other way?

Let's just consider the fact that a Peterson rematch was almost shoved down his throat, and look who he's about to fight now. That should let us know everything that we need to know about his possibilities, so he'd a bigger fool for not moving up at least a few pounds (3 lbs) to face Miguel.

Again, Miguel pretty much stuck a fork in his free agency and his right to cherry pick, so to speak. Not many get a chance to look good while losing to Mayweather, get a big payday because of free agency, still be looked at as top competition after a loss, JUST to take an Austin Trout fight and lose decisively.

Thanks to Miguel trying to "challenge himself", translation: "please the fans", he gotta sit back and wait to see if GBP will pick him to fight Canelo, which should've been the other way around. Career-wise, you don't score a high ace straight flush, just to sit back down at the table and bet it all against guys who clearly have everything to gain and nothing lose. You either sit down and bet less, or take your ass home for the evening. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

PS: Miguel's not even champ anymore, so if Bradley were to beat him, he can go right back a few pounds and keep his money in the bank at 154, until he's good and ready to take certain challenges.
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