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Who Wins Hopkins vs. Cloud?
Who Wins This Fight?
Hopkins by Dec (Close) [ 6 ] ** [46.15%]
Hopkins by Dec (Wide) [ 1 ] ** [7.69%]
Cloud by Dec (Close) [ 3 ] ** [23.08%]
Cloud by Dec (Wide) [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
Hopkins by TKO/KO [ 1 ] ** [7.69%]
Cloud by TKO/KO [ 2 ] ** [15.38%]
Draw [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
DQ (Indicate Loser in Response) [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
Total Votes: 13
  
Jack 1000
post Mar 3 2013, 02:54 PM
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Another Title Fight for Bernard Hopkins, this time it's Hopkins vs. Cloud for Cloud's IBF Light-Heavyweight Title. Most of us remember Cloud as getting the shit beaten out of him by Gabriel Campillo on a Don King show, only for King's fighter to get a terrible decision win. Cloud still owes Campillo a rematch, but that's beside the point.

I am not impressed with Cloud, he has power, but can be hit, and Bernard will rough him up and make him work, but King's fighter will get the close rounds, and maybe some rounds that aren't close anyway in a lot of mauling grabbing, ugly shit from Hopkins, who has resorted to dirty fighting and fouling more and more to extend his legacy. Bernard will probably lose around 115-113, 117-110 and 116-112 unanimously, call everybody racist, and storm of like a spoiled child to his dressing room like a kid who just got told he can't have the last piece of cake before supper. This fight will be boring and ugly, at least on paper.

Also,, bashing King's fighters historically does not give a fighter justice on the scorecards. However, I have a feeling that the decision will be fair. Hopkins just not doing enough, and the need by fighting ugly in spots to make it competitive.

Or, does Executioner pull a rabbit out of his ass one last time and give us a Pascal II type performance? The fight on which Bernard should have retired and could have gone out highly respected and praised. When Bernard wins, he can be good guy.

Boring fight? Average to OK fight? Or something more? Can Bernard create excitment again?

Jack
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Cshel86
post Mar 7 2013, 01:35 PM
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I honestly see this as a 40/40/20 bout. 40% in Hopkins' favor, 40% in Cloud's favor, and a 20% chance of some fuckery taking place.

At this stage of Bernard's career, his reflexes have slowed down a bit. If you remember the first Pascal fight, that will probably be the same Hopkins that we see this weekend. He was even stunned in the rematch a couple of times, but never went down.

If Cloud is able to catch him and hurt him, then he'll be able to finish him. At the same time, Cloud isn't that fast, and straight punches aren't his style...maybe because of the muscles. If he catches Hopkins coming in, with an overhand punch, then we'll see the old man go down.

Bernard on the other hand, is a bully himself. Both guys are bullies on their own respective terms. I don't see Cloud doing shit on the inside, and that's where we'll Hopkins rough him up. Their WILL BE blood.

Cloud isn't able to maintain a disciplined gameplan (of a boxer) for 12 whole rounds, so if he doesn't Hopkins within 6 rounds, then his mind and body will part ways as we see Hopkins control the fight down the stretch. Anyhow, Cloud by close decision. All aspects of this fight will resemble Hopkins/Pascal I.

PS: Cant wait for Thurman/Zaveck
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post Mar 7 2013, 04:16 PM
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QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Mar 7 2013, 01:35 PM) *
I honestly see this as a 40/40/20 bout. 40% in Hopkins' favor, 40% in Cloud's favor, and a 20% chance of some fuckery taking place.

At this stage of Bernard's career, his reflexes have slowed down a bit. If you remember the first Pascal fight, that will probably be the same Hopkins that we see this weekend. He was even stunned in the rematch a couple of times, but never went down.

If Cloud is able to catch him and hurt him, then he'll be able to finish him. At the same time, Cloud isn't that fast, and straight punches aren't his style...maybe because of the muscles. If he catches Hopkins coming in, with an overhand punch, then we'll see the old man go down.

Bernard on the other hand, is a bully himself. Both guys are bullies on their own respective terms. I don't see Cloud doing shit on the inside, and that's where we'll Hopkins rough him up. Their WILL BE blood.

Cloud isn't able to maintain a disciplined gameplan (of a boxer) for 12 whole rounds, so if he doesn't Hopkins within 6 rounds, then his mind and body will part ways as we see Hopkins control the fight down the stretch. Anyhow, Cloud by close decision. All aspects of this fight will resemble Hopkins/Pascal I.

PS: Cant wait for Thurman/Zaveck


very good points and i agree on most. i think cloud is the younger stronger bully. if he can beat bhop to the punch (with the bullying) or answer bhops bullying with stronger more forceful bullying...it's going to be over for bhop.
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- Jack 1000   Cloud vs. Hopkins-Preview (Who Wins? Vote in The Poll!)   Mar 3 2013, 02:54 PM
- - mgrover   I thought Hopkins would take it tbh. If he can con...   Mar 3 2013, 06:02 PM
- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Mar 3 2013, 02:54 PM) ...   Mar 3 2013, 09:43 PM
- - mrchitown   Cloud better get ready for his first L. Even thoug...   Mar 4 2013, 12:04 AM
|- - Jack 1000   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Mar 3 2013, 11:04 PM) ...   Mar 4 2013, 12:14 AM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Mar 3 2013, 11:14 PM) ...   Mar 4 2013, 07:22 PM
- - The Original MrFactor   Cloud d12. The spawn of Marvin Gaye is ready to be...   Mar 4 2013, 05:52 PM
- - Cshel86   Now, if only Cloud could avoid a jab to save his l...   Mar 5 2013, 12:42 PM
- - Plah   I say Hopkins.. 8 rounds to 4, with several of tho...   Mar 5 2013, 07:41 PM
- - bnoles4life   Cloud, at least I'm hoping. BHop just doesn...   Mar 6 2013, 05:51 AM
- - Jack 1000   WOW! Bleacher Report picks CLOUD by TKO 10...   Mar 6 2013, 04:27 PM
- - daprofessor   cloud is going to be the first person to ever stop...   Mar 6 2013, 05:37 PM
- - daprofessor   didn't bhop do this for the dawson fight too?   Mar 6 2013, 08:08 PM
- - neophyte7   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Mar 6 2013, 05:37 PM...   Mar 7 2013, 12:44 AM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (neophyte7 @ Mar 7 2013, 12:44 AM) ...   Mar 7 2013, 04:13 PM
- - Plah   I just don't see Cloud beating, much less stop...   Mar 7 2013, 09:33 AM
- - Cshel86   I honestly see this as a 40/40/20 bout. 40% in Hop...   Mar 7 2013, 01:35 PM
|- - Jack 1000   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Mar 7 2013, 12:35 PM) I ...   Mar 7 2013, 02:05 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Mar 7 2013, 01:35 PM) I ...   Mar 7 2013, 04:16 PM
- - mitukczuk   The only thing that saddens me is that there is no...   Mar 8 2013, 04:08 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (mitukczuk @ Mar 8 2013, 05:08 PM) ...   Mar 8 2013, 05:15 PM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Mar 7 2013, 04:16 PM...   Mar 8 2013, 04:58 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Mar 8 2013, 05:15 PM...   Mar 8 2013, 07:50 PM
- - daprofessor   bhop whispered these words to cloud.... "He ...   Mar 8 2013, 09:48 PM
- - neophyte7   Cloud seems to be over confident and underestimati...   Mar 8 2013, 10:11 PM
- - jdubbya33   QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Mar 3 2013, 11:54 AM) ...   Mar 9 2013, 02:09 PM
- - Dolimite   I have yet to see Cloud fight so this will be my f...   Mar 9 2013, 02:31 PM


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